Free Discussion, March, 2018

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168 comments:

123 said...

A clip on Duggar Facebook, reminding all the fans that the Duggars recently went to New Zealand, Jim Bob, the horn dog, hovering over Michelle while she uses her best mouse voice to squeak out, "here we are in New Zealand at a beeeeutiful water fall, it looks like someone put blue and green food coloring in it!" Apparently it reminds Jim Bob of the water at a mini golf place because he looks like he wants to dry hump her right there at the falls. Yuck. He is so gross. Michelle is so child-like.

Danielle Pate said...

“It looks like someone put blue and green food coloring in it.” Lol. Michelle, that means it was clean.

Lisa said...

anyone see that picture of Josh and Anna and there kids on today Josh 30 birthday? guess they look like one happy family? Wonder what the next 10 years will bring? in the next 10 years their oldest daughter could be married off she is almost 8 years old by now? Wonder how much she really knows since her homeschool teacher Anna does not learn very much herself?

Mickey2942 said...

https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/02/is-anna-duggar-miserable-with-husband-josh-after-scandal/

I bet Anna is miserable. Low self esteem, blaming herself for not making enough sandwiches on demand. After all, in the fundie society, it is always the woman's fault. And she has to stay married, because it is her "duty" to forgive, and make her marriage work. Yet, if she had cheated on him, she would have been kicked to the curb in a heartbeat. And everyone rallying around the husband. Double standard.

She leaves, it is her fault for not making it work. He strays, it is her fault. He is unhappy, yep, her fault.

Emma said...

Josh turned the big 30 and it was all smiles and party time. I thought the Happy birthday wish on DFO was quite flat compared to other birthday posts, just that they were thankful for his continued journey with the Lord and looked forward to more years and memories. Something tells me that while he may be forgiven its not forgotten! He has cost his family so much, not just in terms of $ but in standing. The Duggars had a nice thing going on the speech circuit earning big bucks, these days only IBLP and like minded fundie churches will hire them. Josh's shenannigans has exposed them, and now everything they say and do is scrutinized, challenged and called out. Anna threw him a party in their home (its posted on instagram for anyone intetested) I saw some of the family there, Jessa, some brothers, Kendra and Josiahs new side squeeze Lauren, but many faces are missing including Ma and Pa. The huggars love telling people who call them out that he is forgiven, move on etc, but I don't think the public will ever let the Duggars or Josh forget, no one wants to see someone like him on TV imo.

colen said...

Anna posted a vid on her insta of Josh's bd party.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bf43_1FAd3C/?taken-by=annaduggar

Jilly JO JO said...

What up with the Bates Gil Bates loves to water ski? it is ok for him to love water skiing and go out there in shorts so all the ladies could look at his legs? While his wife has to go to the lake in the dress and cannot enjoy the water? Boy, he loves to water ski whats wrong with him isn't that against fundie rules or something?

laura said...

I'm confused again.
Jill posted a pic of her babies in a bathtub. Only their top halves are shown but normally people do not wear any clothing in the bath.
How come the girls can't show knees or wear pants and boys must leave the room when a diaper is being changed but they can show naked babies?
Jill thinks posting a pic of derick standing at a stove or him rubbing her foot is interesting. Those are things that are only important to the people involved, not the general public because we all do the same thing.
She needs to get out more.....

lisa Mcginess said...

I found the esp were Jim bod said the Duggar are not allowed to wear pants meaning boys were he ran the race in pants. called run Duggars run back in 2009 sometime? Guess he forgot he said that?

Debbie said...

I noticed they sang the more common Happy Birthday song, rather than the religious one they sang at the Duggar’s for the little birthday girl.

Charlotte said...

The Duggar boys running in shorts was explained as being "in costume" for their role in the Courageous movie.

I remember said...

Re: Charlotte's comment. When we saw Jim Bob & boys running in the father son race for the "Courageous" movie, it was a brutally hot day & they had to keep running over & over again while they were filmed & they were running in jeans. You could pick them out from a mile away as they were the only ones wearing long pants. There were many, many comments about how ridiculous they looked.

Aimee said...

Poor Anna. She has lost that "I am so in love with you gaze" and has moved to a "Please look at me, Please notice me" gaze. She deserves so much more than the life her parents set up for her and the disaster her husband has given her.

Captain Crunch said...

Jessa looks pregnant in not only Anna's Happy Birthday Precious Joshie Instagram video, but also in the latest Facebook Duggar Family Official group photo. The one where she's wearing the green shirt.

colen said...

I like Michelle's new hairstyle. I wonder what made her ditch the curls?

Ruby said...

Happy Birthday Precious Joshy’s Instagram Looks like he is going to put his baby’s bare feet right into the birthday candle flames. The guy is a complete train wreck.

Andrea said...

https://www.inquisitr.com/4816822/derick-dillard-spills-exploitation-by-tlc-sam-in-the-nicu-more/

Oh, it's coming. Could the NICU stay be because of his failed home birth? Poor kid. As if Jill's first labor and delivery wasn't enough of a warning, she decided to try a home birth a second time and her child ended up in the NICU. Too stupid for words. What will it take for the Duggar's to stop birthing at home with NO MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS? A baby or mother's death?

Mickey2942 said...

Jim Bob and his disdain of formal education and training, universities, internships, he should appreciate the medical professionals who took care of his wife, and daughters.

It seems like he should acknowledge that education is important, especially trained medical professionals who can do emergency surgery.

I remember one comment made, years ago, that JB or Michelle said that it is better to just learn at home, and from people who have done the job. School is not important or a college education. And that women have had babies at home forever, young healthy women don't need to have a baby at a hospital.

His two daughters would more than likely be dead, and their babies, if not for emergency medical care. Good thing the surgeons went to medical school.

detria said...

I can't imagine the pain these girls go through labor at home to birth these huge babies. Even if they end up in the hospital, they go through crazy pain as Michelle and the others watch. Maybe a more private Jana doesn't marry because she can't imagine doing this home birthing thing in front of the family.

Blah said...

https://www.reddit.com/r/19KidsandCounting/comments/78igt5/connection_to_the_duggars_ama/

Anybody see this reddit AMA featuring an anonymous individual who claims his/her mom is friends with Michelle? I found it very interesting. The person gave his/her perception of the Duggars on various things, from Josh being a creep and Anna being miserable, Jim bob’s obsession with having 100 grandkids and more.

Just saying said...

Re: Charlottes's comment about them explaining the boys were in costume for their part in Courageous. I was watching 19 Kids every week at that time & never herd any explanation such as them being in costume. They absolutely did wear jeans, all of them. I felt bad for the boys, following Jim Bob's rules. If Jim Bob wanted to run in jeans in that heat, good luck to him but the boys should have been allowed to be like the other boys were in those scenes.

roddma said...

Who would notice Kelly and Michelle in shorts? When the Duggars were roller skating at one of the kid parties,the skirts looked so uncomfortable. How could they move very well? The Bates females also wear those leggings under the skirts skiing which looks silly.IMO it draws more attention than shorts would.

Crazy Bunch said...

Re:Debbie's comment about the Duggars singing the regular "Happy Birthday," song instead of a religious version. That could be because until recently if you used the regular "Happy Birthday Song," you had to pay a fee, as it was copyrighted. Some yrs. ago someone realized it had never been copyrighted & they had it copyrighted, meaning you had to pay if that song was used & anyone saw it, say on TV. Many TV shows changed some of the words etc. However the court recently ruled on the issue, & you no longer need to pay a fee if it's used. So now you hear it the way most of us remember. Can you imagine Jim Bob having to pay for something someone else discovered wasn't copyrighted, even worse I believe it was 2 women who had it copyrighted. It would never happen, the Duggars had their own "religious version."

laura said...

On a side note, Patty and Mildred Hill came up with happy birthday.
I happened upon their grave in Kentucky one day while doing genealogy stuff. Colonel Sanders is also in the same Cave Hill cemetery outside Louisville.

detria said...

Derrick's Instagram postings are only the beginning of the downfall of the Duggars. I sense JImbob is freaking out because he is not in control of Derrick's mouth, especially the postings about not receiving money from TLC. That tell all book we have been eagerly awaiting could be Derrick's ticket fortune and more fame.....talk show gigs, magazine articles, etc. He won't work, his begging donation gigs are a bust so the tell all book could bring him the narcissistic fame and fortune he requires to continue to live without a real job.

Ruby said...

“Too stupid for words” is a good summary of how the Duggars roll especially when it comes to attempting home births over and over again. If it were not for modern medicine some of these girls ( jill, jessa and possibly Joy ) would already be dead because they wouldn’t have made it through childbirth.

lisa Mcginess said...

any see what that coach said to Trace Bates last night. He was mad about not making the team? He never had any real sports team practice or inner action on any team growing up so of course, he would not make a team sports. Kelly more worried about her son finding a girl then going out and finding a job? I wonder what is up with the Bates letting their son play on a sports team seems odd they allow Trace to do that kind of thing? I think he will have a hard time finding any women because he really has no Social skills at all. I am truly surprised that Kelly and Gil allow Lawson to play music and tour around the country like he does. I somehow doubt he would marry a fundie girl? I would think of any of them he would want to move out? I also know before this show he was supporting this family with his lawn service business. If it was not for that show he probably would be.

Essie Marie said...

The Trace Bates incident is why the Duggars stay put in their Duggar bubble. They cannot function in "real life" which means dealing outside of their world with sinners in such pursuits such as real jobs, careers, school, sports. Within their bubble, they are famous and smarter then the rest of the world on that straight path to heaven. When will reality shake their world? Could be soon due to Derick's social media postings. TLC must be struggling to keep the interest up on the show and now with Derick's craziness, they might drop them and all Duggars will have to face the real world. Seems like watching that train wreck in slow motion.

Wheez said...

Derick has been quoted as saying Sam spent 2 weeks in the NICU.. any inkling as to why exactly?

colen said...

So, does any one else think that DD's insta-ramblings are the beginning of the end? Rumor is that he and Jill might write a tell all, but I would prefer to watch the Lifetime movie.

colen said...

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/duggars-religion-151762

Here are some interviews by young women who were raised in IBLP.

That's it. said...

I never understood the quiver full movement Jim Bob and Michelle are supposedly in. Psalm 1:27: 4-5 is where I found it.

Also: Psalm 128:3

Linda Greeve said...

I’m just now getting around to watching the Joy/Austin wedding episode (10/17). Who’s house did Joy have her final dress fitting? I see a “Duggar established 1984” sign on the wall but I have never seen this house. It looks similar to the big house but definitely not it. And it definitely looks lived in- not just staged.

Ruby said...

Dumb as a stump Jilly Muffin takes a picture of herself and the family in bed and her fan blog blows up. People over there think that messy bed pictures are trashy. I couldn't agree more.

Ruby said...

Derick is such a tool he doesn’t deserve royalties from a tell-all book. His biggest goal since marrying into the duggar fam has been to work as little as possible. I would rather see the whole Duggar ship go down in a scandal whirlpool

123 said...

So this whole thing about Derick and family just volunteering for the TLC show and not getting paid: I have a thought--since the Duggars consider their reality show a "ministry" , do you think maybe the reason they have been able to stay on the air despite their low ratings and no advertising during the show, is because Jim Slob gets a single paycheck and it is really not as much as we all imagine? He keeps all the money and pays the useless boys an allowance to keep them somewhat busy around the compound? And he buys big ticket items for himself like airplanes and cars and excavating equipment to keep the useless boys entertained? TLC is taking advantage of their ministry status and is paying them a pittance? The whole dang family has abysmal work ethics and very little education. I don't mean that TLC considers this show a ministry, I mean Jim Slob considers it a ministry and accepts a rather low paycheck. In other words, he is being taken advantage of by TLC and he doesn't even have a clue?

Figures said...

It is the Duggars children, such as Jill herself that I want to see compensated. They had no say whatsoever in this as to appear or not appear on tv. Their fame was not their choice. They were probably told by daddy dearest it was for ministry purposes. That is just sad. Look at all the girls have gone through in public. Especially the Josh scandal. Sick to think they haven't earned a dime but Ma and Pa Duggar have a fleet of planes, real estate, and have gone on multitudes of vacations. All at their kids expense. It is time PA Duggar pays EACH one his or her share.

Linda said...

I don't believe any of the guesstimates that I've seen published for how much the Duggars are paid. All of the publicly posted guesstimates were grossly wrong in how much the Gosselins were paid.

Just me said...

If Derick did not negotiate pay privately from TLC it is his own fault. He's a grown man with a college degree in accounting. He can't keep going around begging people for money & donations and expect to be respected as an adult married man and father. He should get a job, wake up in the morning and drive off to a paying job, not hang around on the internet attempting to get people gossiping about him.

Essie Marie said...

In order for Jimboob to buy a fleet of airplanes, he's has to be getting much money out of TLC. Before TLC, they lived in a donated by the church house.

Alicia said...

The world will come crashing down soon on these Duggar "stars" when LC dumps them. I predict Jimbob will hang on tightly to his money and the married "kidults" will have to face the real world & figure out how to get jobs and support themselves.

Dwindling down.. said...

Just me, He probably couldn't negotiate with tlc. Jim Bob probably had a trust set up in the Duggar name. It is there, you probably will find the tlc paychecks. He should have divided it equally amongst his family, but we know JB and how he saves the difference. Michelle even called him a tight wad before and laughed. Perhaps, JB offered a nice mansion or cozy house and probably a little more allowance to Jill and Jessa than the rest of the clan, for headlining the show. Still, not what they should of been getting probably. JB is a businessman. We know most businessmen like to earn alot of green off the coat tails of others. And yes, alot of times they are pure cheapskates! They love a big bank account and to be in control of finances.

lisa mcginess said...


I really wonder if they are making money off this show how is in control of the money and who gets it? I am sure Jim Bod says he is the manager and gets some cut? But it would seem pretty terrible if he had to hand them a paycheck each week even from the show? Even if Jim Bod owns a lot of houses and could have jobs for each of these kids do they get a regular paycheck from him? Would be pretty miserable to keep asking Jim bod to pay me to take care of my family? I wonder if he his business like a real business? Does he have payroll do they pay taxes or does he claim every one of his kids on his tax return?





laura said...

My take on how much jim bob makes off the show?
Poor people dont buy property and airplanes all the time.
Derick tweeted he 'had a very good job's concerning peoples response to TLC not paying his kids medical bills.
If so, what was this very good job that. Made it so it took 'almost a year before the bills were paid off'
Begging is lucrative I see......
And just pointing out that he CHOSE to have a baby. Babies cost money. Lots of it.
Medical care costs money. Does he think everything is free? What if someone in his family needs emergency medical care? (Like his wife and childbirth)
How will he blatch about that in the future?
One more question-if he is not interested in the phenomena known as 'work' and spends his days. Begging online and Twitter raging what makes him think we believe that he VOLUNTEERED his time to be on tv?
Like he wouldnt be demanding as much money as possible for a tv network?
And Jim Bob doing something (tv shows)for years for free?
He pimple his momma out begging for good for his kids and now has a fleet of airplanes?
Yeah, he might buy used but he saves that difference to buy planes trains and automobiles, keeping his wife and daughters literally barefoot and pregnant in the canned food kitchen While he pretends he some great human being and parent.
What a keeper....

lisa Mcginess said...

why would the Duggar list her own house as a nonprofit? unless they are using it as a church? all their other 17 properties are listed as Duggar trust and only one is listed as a nonprofit under Duggar properties? Claiming so they do not have to pay taxes to look under Washington, Co Arkansas and you will see this. Trying to cheat the government. This guy owns about 16 different properties seems like he is more of a house flipper. He is a pretty smart cookie to list his own home address as a nonprofit. Only one listed under Duggar properties.

Emma said...

Which property exactly are you claiming is listed as a non-profit? The parcel number would leave no question. Thanks.

Emma said...

The Duggar home is definitely listed with an assessed value for tax purposes. $8,358 in taxes less the homestead credit.

lisa Mcginess said...

i saw under the business that says is owned by Duggar proprieties the other ones they own do not say that and in the business, the website listed a nonprofit. I never looked at taxes I could be wrong.

Emma said...

If I'm understanding you correctly, you are off on the Duggar Property listing. It is listed in the details as vacant or unoccupied land and there is a $50 annual tax due on it. Looking up Duggar Properties via Google it is an LLC set up by that Williams guy. It was mainly a shell company to kind of hide a couple of transactions if I remember correctly. There is no church involvement that I can see and they left a very minor piece of property in it as a placeholder after the shell served it's purpose to hold Josh's assets during and after the scandals.

Heart in Florida said...

Jim Bob has an agricultural exemption on many of his vacant property parcels. It's not illegal to do so, but he has one good lawyer in Travis Story. I would bet this is the guy who has advised him in what to do. Over the years, Jim Bob has picked up a few pieces of knowledge in how to legally circumspect the government and taxes. Didn't Jesus say to "give unto Caesar what is Caesar's?" I would think plotting ways to defraud the government goes against what Jesus said.

nana Gia said...

I thought agricultural land needed to be in use to get the agricultural tax exemption and we all know the entire Duggar clan is much to lazy to plant and work land for agricultural purposes. Maybe a tax man should check it out.

Fanny said...

Jill is sure going against Michelle & Jimbob's rules by wearing a dress with hem a shocking 2 inches above her knees in Instagram photo of 2 days ago. M & J must be upset..this with Derick's complaining posts about TLC is showing them they can't control the adult kids anymore. What will the younger kids think about Jill's new sexy style? Will they turn their heads and scream NIKE?

Cindy said...

I thoughtà I would let you know that the lawsuit against Both are has been dropped. You can look on Google. I am disgusted.

Cindy said...

Lawsuit against Gothard dropped. Sorry I hate autocorrect lol

Aunt Bea said...

nana Gia: It doesn't take much for an agricultural exemption...put a couple of cows or fruit trees on acreage and you'll most likely get the exemption. The 'taxable value' drops to pennies per dollar and you pay next to nothing in property taxes.
JB also has a great CPA who knows tax law advising him. HE can't be that knowledgeable all by his lonesome self.

Tori said...

Which lawsuit, there are a few knocking around?

Cindy said...

Gothad and IBLP were being sued by 10 women claiming sexual misconduct.

Captain Crunch said...

Am I the only one who thinks Joes pants are always ill-fitting? They are either too tight or too baggy, or they are too short. Buy used and save the difference isn't cutting it for him.

Willow said...

I am also sorry about the lawsuit. So sad. I imagine Mr. Gothard will be back in the spotlight soon. The organization made a comeback many, many years ago after a scandal and now it looks like they will get to make another one. Maybe the younger leaders (like David Waller) will make some gradual changes.


Enough already said...

So sick of Jessa. If I have to see one more recap of Jessa in her wedding dress or bossing her siblings around, I think I'll gouge my eyes out. Seriously.

Just Me said...

Re: Enough already's comment. Sorry but if you are a viewer, I think you'll be seeing plenty of Jessa, both in repeated episodes as well as future ones, as she after all is one of the "Stars" of "Counting On."

Just my opinion said...

There is so much talk about home births being a tradition in the Duggar family. This is not true. Anyone who has watched from the beginning of 19 Kids & Counting knows, that although Michelle did have some home births, they were never a part of the show. We only saw her having prenatal care with Dr. Sarver & then the minute they said her babies were transverse she was admitted to the hospital for a C-section. Michelle herself always said her youngest girls were all transverse. Jackson's birth was the 1st shown on the show & was a hospital birth. I believe it started with Anna & Josh. Anna was under the care of Dr. Sarver, so having good prenatal care, but when Dr. Sarver was out of town when Anna went into labor & Josh didn't want her having a male Dr. delivering the baby he said "let's try a homebirth." I remember that even JB was shocked when Josh told him on the phone they were going to try a home birth. I believe the home births with Josh & Anna were rating bonanza for the Duggars & TLC & that's what started the "tradition" of home births. Jill & Jessa having home births, helped to take some of the publicity off of the scandal with Josh & help again with the ratings. It's criminal that this family would take the chances with these babies as well as their own daughters lives, by planning these home births but it appears that's what the Duggar PR Machine has come up with. We wouldn't want anything to interfere with JB's bank account. If courtships, engagements & weddings have proved good for ratings, actually giving rise to the, "Counting On Series" the next best thing is those home births.

I agree said...

Re:Captain Crunch's comment about Joe's ill fitting pants. I totally agree with you.

sandi said...

I take it as ATI must have some pretty good attorneys,or some connections,for it to be dropped

Linda said...

The claimants had a particularly bad one.

Bebe said...

At this point, the best thing for Derrick and Jill to do is go after JB for the money they are owed. A good lawyer would probably take the case. A tell all book would be a good financial maneuver as well. People would buy the book IF it was accurate and told the REAL story of what goes on behind the scenes with JB and all of his lies and underhanded ways

Boo's Mom said...

I bet Jeremy has his own contract. No way he would allow JB to control how of it he gets paid.

Meme said...

If anything is going to open the eyes of the grown children of Jim Bob Duggar, it is going to be the distribution (or lack of) the TLC funds. It happened to the Osmond family when some of the sons grew an overnight backbone after Daddy Osmond mishandled (read:lost) their millions. It appears that Jim Bob has handled their money in a similar way, by putting all those paychecks into a "family" account. Ol' Derick may be just the guy to rock the financial boat. He's not blood related, he's educated enough to write a (tattletale) book, and he's ticked off about his situation. He's a man with nothing to lose.

Willow said...

Even if Derick writes a tell all book and makes millions from it, I still have a feeling he will have to get a job SOME day. He is just too young to be able to skate forever, or at least that is how it seems to me. He is just prolonging the inevitable. I really want JB to have to pay for his selfish ways with his family, but I also really want Derick to understand that people have to work for their money. He is not a Rockefeller, he is not even TV star material. He needs to use his degree. I don't get a vibe that he has a real call for missions, I get the vibe that he just thinks it is fun and easy. He should be so thankful for that degree and he could support his family very nicely with it and he could do church outreach in his community at the same time. Sorry to pile on Derick but I just do not get him at all.

About time... said...

I hope Derick writes that book and profits. Jim Bob has bought plane after plane and house after house with some of THEIR money. Those children now reside in the public eye and really dont have much to show for it. All the while, Jim Bob and Michelle jets off to an exotic place and buys another mini mansion for their brood to fix up and sell. I say, it's about time, JB pays his children what they deserve.

laura said...

One of the tags says Jessas is pregnant.
Hopefully its another boy and the one after that so she can't enslave them.
Jana will nanny...

Ruby said...

These Duggar girls have traded an expensive wedding gown and an extravagant European honeymoon for their privacy, a steady income, decent prenatal care and health insurance so they can give birth in a hospital. This cult of which their father, Jim Slob, is a leader takes advantage of their women to stay bare foot and pregnant without proper medical attention while the men folk in the group get all the lov'n they want, have easy jobs that keep them around the house and they get all kinds of toys like cars, trucks, earth moving equipment, airplanes. THE WOMEN GET NOTHING.

colen said...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5500945/Jessa-Duggar-husband-Ben-Sweewald-expecting-child.html

Jessa preg article

Meme said...

A local news program JUST NOW stated that Josh Duggar has a lawsuit against two Arkansas counties who released information about the molestation of his sisters. What is interesting is that JILL appears in the clip, sitting next to Josh, nodding affirmatively as he speaks. I do not know what Josh was saying as a voiceover covered his statements. (I will have to catch the 10:00 news for that, of course). I was under the impression that the Duggar daughters had had Josh's lawsuit kept separate from theirs. Anyway, i can't wait to see what the heck is going on.

Essie Marie said...

Oh, come on Ruby....you know life is good for the Duggar girls..... they get to go thrift shops. (sarcastically speaking)
I remember watching Anna diligently thrift shop and then the scandal breaks with news of Joshie spending thousands on the pole dancing hooker. I bet Anna is still watching her pennies like a good fundy wife and Josh is about ready for another scandal to break. Men like him do not "heal"..they get more creative to satisfy those urges the devil puts in him. I recall one of the brothers said "the devil made him do it".

hilda said...

Not Anna, Ruby. She wore some relatives used wedding dress and went to some local beach. Poor girl even birthed a baby on a toilet for Jimbob's ratings. So not Anna but yes, the uneducated ones were sent to far off destinations to be amazed by sparkling water & fondue...LOL.

Alicia said...

What a world the Duggars live in where the sister victim sits next to the molesting brother. Especially in this cult where "Being sweet" for your husband is so important. Hypocrisy

Over Them said...

Now Jessa is pregnant again. I know it's an extremely large family but dear God , all these pregnancies & birth after birth, they are like rabbits. Jinger is pregnant, Joy gives birth, Jessa announces a pregnancy . Oh I forgot about Joe & Kendra. Who knows about Josh & Anna, it's about that time again for them. If they think this is riveting viewing I got news for them.

Marites H. said...

There's a Baby Bump #3 pic of Jessa & Ben. What is up with Ben's lopsided baseball cap -- rap star wannabe. Maybe it's just that Ben's not the brightest crayon in the box, but he always looks stoned to me. Hope it's another boy.

Heart in Florida said...

Anna wore her sister, Esther's plain old wedding gown. It looked like a t-shirt sewed to a long white skirt. Yes, they went to a beach house in South Carolina. Poor idiot, that was before the money really started rolling in and TLC started to pay for honeymoons. Jessa and Ben were the first ones to get to go to Europe. Sorry that trip was wasted on them as they didn't take in anything , really from it.

Wonderingg said...

None of the official websites of the Duggars have confirmed Jessa's pregnancy. I only saw one article from In Touch Weekly and I don't know if that is a gossip magazine or one such as People, who tries to publish accurate news. Just odd, that no one has had a congratulatory video. Even on Jessa's instagram, zero, zilch regarding a 3rd pregnancy. I also saw Hollywood Gossip had the same article as In Touch but with a question mark after the headline. So, I really wonder if it is true or not.

Over Them said...

If it's only a rumor that Jessa is expecting #3, & I agree the rumor mill does get out of hand with these pregnancy announcements, I say just wait another couple of weeks & they will definitely confirm a pregnancy. It's just their lot in life.

Willow said...

I am so surprised that there hasn't been a photo out showing the pregnant girls together. For sure, there were three at once, and maybe even four IF Jessa was pregnant in time also. Oh well, no matter, it is bound to happen again sometime over the years.

colen said...

Speaking of Josiah's engagement, Marjorie is apparently living her best life eva!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9mUpSd8W7k

So be it said...

On People.com it is reporting that a family spokesperson confirmed Jessa is NOT pregnant with her 3rd child.

Ginny Streeter said...

People Magazine has an article this morning that says that a "family rep" says that Jessa is not pregnant.

asian noodle said...

these people really get around? they went to the Bahamas, now going on a ski trip with bates, going to the land down under, Kelly and Gil going to Florida to Disney world because someone gave them a free trip? I wish I could have all of these travel adventures like these family?

delight said...

sooner or later with all these births some birth will result in a damaged infant [mine was] and how are these ignorant girls deal with this? they dont go to doctors already.

Mickey2942 said...

http://people.com/tv/jessa-duggar-not-pregnant-third-child/

No pregnancy...but Ben states they want to have foster children to adopt. Right. They probably want kids for the cash. However, they wouldn't qualify, there are rules regarding beds, rooms, bathrooms, and I believe it is mandatory for foster children to attend school.

Heart in Florida said...

With all these trips the Bates have been taking lately, I thought Gil had to work in his tree cutting business? When did this guy become semi-retired like his buddy, Jim Bob?
It's no mystery to me, that Kelly Bates dumps her younger children on the older ones, as much as Michelle Duggar does. I'm sure Kelly learned from the master, Michelle.

Willow said...

I think their trips are beginning to become obnoxious, even if they are for filming. The Bates especially take many, many trips.

Willow said...

I think Gil's tree business and Lawson's lawn business are defunct now. If they are still in business, they must be hiring workers outside the family. Jim Bob could still be doing real estate, at least part time, but the tree business would have to have somebody there in person actually working.

Just Saying said...

The picture I saw of Michelle, being greeted by an admirer, I notice Josie was at Michelle's side, as always. She was in the shopping trip for Kendra's wedding dress, as well. How come Josie gets to go everywhere but Jenny & Jordy don't? I do think that Jenny & Jordyn probably don't care.

asian noodle said...

according to the Duggar show, Jim bod still has to be in business because it is supposed to be supporting everyone in the family

Mickey2942 said...

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jill-duggar-derick-dillard-mission-trip-156286

Another "missioncation", it costs them $3000 to fly there and help a guy build a church. Just send him the cash to hire skilled workers! They didn't take Israel, probably would have had to buy him a plane ticket. But they did take Samuel, what is Jill going to do in Mexico, with a baby, for 5 days? What is the point? I guess I don't understand these people at all. There is plenty of missionary work to do here, in the United States, volunteer to help elderly, or women in prison, children in foster care...why fly to Mexico? There is plenty of missionary work to do here...

Emma said...

Mickey2942: From what I read they won't be helping physically build the church, rather they will be doing street evangelism, basically harassing people going about their business. I thought the same thing about Jill going along, Derick is the one in 'school' not Jill, she will be as much use as a chocolate teapot with an eight month old infant to look after (presumably she is still nursing, so that is why the baby got to go). The money spent on the travel and accommodation for Jill could have been put to better use feeding the hungry, helping the sick and needy. There are a lot of pretty young women in 'school' with Derick, perhaps Jillymuffin feels insecure about him going off on a church jolly to Mexico?? Next month they are going to 'mission' in Colorado, again at a new church, that is closer to home, it will be interesting to see what that involves (probably more of the same!)

Mickey2942 said...

They have Jana at home to care for them. They probably barely even realize Michelle is their Mother. Jordan was handed off to a "sister-mother" az soon as she was born, Michelle's role was to breastfeed, and be joyfully available to JB.

Just Thinking said...

I never hear Michelle talk about what a servant's heart Jana has, or how she always naturally just, "keeps sweet." When they were dress shopping with Kendra & Kendra's young sister said Kendra looked beautiful in one of the dresses, Jana immediately & spontaneously said "you should tell her that." I think Jana is by far the nicest of all of the Duggar kids. I hope she doesn't just marry some guy her dad picks out, as that doesn't seem to be going all that well for the others. I realize she is nothing but a servant in her parents home but there must be better days ahead for her.

Mickey2942 said...

Probably some scam to beg for money. Huckster Central. Jillymuffin really won the loser jackpot. This guy goes from scam to scam.

Rainbow in the sky said...

There have been questions on jobs held by Duggars and Bates. Lets see if I have this right or close.

Jim Bob Duggar - makes money off his children, maybe some real estate?
Michelle Duggar - Sandwich maker
Jana Duggar - running entire household and babysitting for her nieces and nephews
John David - couch sitter?, pilot/chaperone for engaged and married couples
Josh - Who knows
Jill - mother, wannabe midwife
Derick - not touching that one
Jessa - mother
Ben - wannabe rapper?
Jinger - photographer?, hanging out with Jeremy
Jeremy - Pastor
Joy - mother
Austin - house flipper, EMT?
Joe - ?????????
Kendra - ????
Josiah - couch sitter?
Gil Bates - tree service?, pastor
Kelly - Mother- she seems more involved
Zach - Sheriff
Whitney - Realtor
Michael - Nanny?, baby blanket making
Brandon - works for IBLP but we probably will never see footage of him "at work" like they showed Chad
Erin - piano
Chad - scrap metal shop, now I think they are going to do house flips
Alyssa - cleaning service?
John - ?? I'm not sure what his job is
Lawson - music sometimes, goof off the rest- he seems to be on vacation alot
Nathan - see above vacation comment, i think he his a pilot also
Tori - college for teaching
Bobby - pastor?, works at Chad's old job

That's all I got!

Willow said...

John Webster works for his family's heating and air conditioning company and he and Alyssa have a cleaning business. Josie Bates is a working cosmetologist now. I love your list!

Willow said...

P.S. Especially your descriptions of JB and Michelle. Spot on!! lol

Ruby said...

Does any one know who posts for Duggar Offical facebook? It is someone who thinks Derick standing barefoot in his messy bedroom, wearing a stretched out blue knit shirt and Izzy standing next to him wearing a blue knit shirt is cute because it's matching. Hmmmm, let me think.............Michelle? It's an awful picture. I guess Michelle would say it is "sweet" or "precious" because those are the only two adjectives she uses.

Emma said...

Has anyone seen the new controversy that has been brewing over on Jill and Dericks social media pages over the past week? A little while ago Jill made a post on instagram about a book Dericks mom bought for Izzy called The Tuttle twins', it read like an advert for the books. Lots of people commented that the books were age inappropriate for Izzy, and the books content was controversial. Move on a few days and Jill asked followers on facebook and instagram to vote for Izzy in a competition held by the author to win $350. Many have said it is unfair for Jill to do this as due to her TV platform she has more followers than the other kids parents, and she included herself in the picture which she should not have done. Yesterday Derick weighed in and posted a request for votes on twitter (he must not be busy on his missioncation in Mexico!). When will these two ever stop looking for ways to get money and court controversy, they seem to thrive on it. They are not giving a thought about the other kids who have entered and actually put thought and effort into their entry, and have real plans for the money if they win. Izzy at three hasn't a clue about the competition I am sure. The author of the books has said he sees no problem in Dillards entry which has made people even more suspicious, its all very odd.

Heart in Florida said...

Regarding that 'matching' photo Jill posted of Derick in the blue polo shirt...doesn't Jill own an IRON? That shirt looked terrible.

lisa Mcginess said...

anyone notice this season only had like four esp? guess they are slowly shutting them down? Less money and no one wants to really watch this boring family.

Sharla said...

This was the "B" part of the last season.

Figures said...

I think the problem with the Dillards are they are famous but not rich, as JB supposedly receives most,( if not all) the money. They received housing from him for awhile, but probably not much more for their participation on the show. It is no wonder they put their kid in that $350 contest, really. It probably seems like alot of free money to them. To the public though, we are like, they are on a TV show, why would they go after a few hundred bucks and seem greedy? Jim Bob hoarding Jill's past earnings would explain the average family mentality they seem to have. They have semi celebrity status but apparently not the $$$ to go along with it, according to Derick, who says they were volunteers. How crazy for an accountant to appear on a national show with fairly good ratings for nothing?? Especially when his own courtship/engagement/wedding episodes were big viewer draws back then for the show.

Mickey2942 said...

That $350 would be put to good work, for the lord to provide funds for Derrick to have another missioncation!

colen said...

It appears Jinger has the most sense concerning Duggar births.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5537133/Jinger-Duggar-shares-bump-photo-24-weeks.html

aketa said...

Jill & Derrick have hit rock bottom trying to win $350. in a child's contest. They need to let the older children who have good plans for the money win. Izzy has no idea what's going on. If they win, the money will probably be used to buy more steaks or perhaps another nose piercing for Jill. I have this crazy idea how Derrick can obtain money.....use his accounting degree to earn a living. Right now this married man and father could be earning money doing tax returns instead of hanging out with college kids in Mexico.

laura said...

People is touting jill as a midwife.
It is sad and scary imo.
She let her sister labor for 20 hours without knowing there was a serious complication.
It is possible she may have been playing grown up games with her grown up heart beat monitor and stethoscope during joys pregnancy but she is a child that truly has no concept of how serious childbirth is.
Every birth that happens shows their ignorance lack of concern for the health and safety of mother and baby.
All the reasons joy said she wanted to have the baby at home were for JOY. She never said anything about the safety and health of her baby.
If I wasn't scared before for them, I am now...

Debbie S said...

I’m pretty sure there soon more to the contest that Jill is after. I did a quick search, and the company that puts out the books offers an incentive for each book (or set, or series) that you sell after someone links to them from your link. This is probably the Dillard’s grand plan to support their growing family. (Smh...)

https://tuttletwins.com/affiliates/

She has it down. said...

The Duggar gaze is going around the world:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5539497/Meghan-Markles-body-language-shows-charge-relationship.html

Ruby said...

Why is PEOPLE defending Jill's midwife skills? You know they don't agree with their faith, their stance on social/moral issues or their political views, so WHY are they so quick to legitimize this family? I really don't get it.

Should have known.... said...

Debbie S., Thank you. I thought this may be the case. They know how to rake in the dough by just sitting on the couch.
Anyhow, the way this tuttletwin book thing works is as follows: They track each visitor from the link on your web page by placing 'cookies' in your visitor's browser and if they place an order you make $2.50 per order this way. They can make up to $20 with bigger orders. No wonder they don't care about the negative publicity. This is potentially a big money maker for them. If they get complete, random strangers to click on their link first and order, $$$$ right to their bank account.

Only Saying said...

Apparently there is so much backlash about Joy's delivery, that it's vitally important that they get out to the public, that a well qualified midwife was present, & since they won't reveal who it was, or even if there was another midwife present, they need to give Jill an excellent resume. I believe it was only Jill, either that or someone with the same education & experience as Jill.

Wonder Why said...

This new scheme of Jill & Derick's with the books, makes me think, the next thing we know they will be selling encyclopedias. I agree that Derrick could be making money doing Tax returns, if he is indeed a CPA. I'm beginning to wonder about that. We know he worked for Walmart in the office but there' no proof he actually worked as a CPA. It just might be another case of embellishment.

Sharla said...

Derick is apparently an accountant. One can be properly called an accountant without being a CPA. Not to mention he can do taxes without being a CPA. H&R Block anyone?

Mickey2942 said...

To do taxes for H&R Block, he would have had to attend classes, in the Fall, for almost 6 weeks, and pass an exam. I wonder if he could pass it, no computer...all paper, they let you use the program after you prove you can do the paper forms.

I doubt he would have done the work, there is a significant amount of actual homework.

Sharla said...

Of course he would, but my point remains that Derick would not need to be a CPA to do taxes.

Tori said...

Only saying: I thought the same thing about people plumping up Jills CV. Still shots of Joys birth showed someone with long blonde hair leaning over Joy but her face was never shown and she has never been mentioned, the wonderful disappearing midwife! I have read elsewhere that the lay midwife they use is well known in their circle, but if something goes wrong she ducks out the back door before the paramedics show up. Why do they take such unnecessary risks with their own lives and their babies, I could understand if they had no money but the Duggars are millionaires? If something goes wrong with a tragic result will they then expose this person or will they continue with the deception they are feeding to the public at the moment?

schooner said...

A super awkward photo shoot on Us Weekly. Three pregnant girls with those stupid photo booth props, wearing cross body ribbons with the words "mom to be", holding a fruit that is supposed to represent the size of their baby. So so awkward. They look so desperate to give away all their privacy. Do they get paid for these photo shoots or is it all volunteer in order to promote their brand? Pathetic. Sick.

Linda said...

The "midwife" who ducks out the door before the ambulance arrives is Theresa Fedowsky the sometimes license revoked doctor. She doesn't even have the credentials that Jill got and has been responsible for several births gone wrong.

Schooner said...

Linda, why do you suppose the duggar girls continue to use Theresa Fedowsky as their invisible midwife? Is she their Rasputin, whispering nonsense in their ears, or is she cheap because she is not legal?

Linda said...

It's only supposition, but I fear the Duggars and the other homebirthers in NWA who use Miss Theresa can't think rationally. It's common knowledge in the area that she is dangerous. No one will testify against her or she'd be in jail. It may be related to that poor persecuted Christian mentality that they have.

Tori said...

Just seen a TLC promotion clip for when the show returns in the summer, so the sweet and precious season of Duggar life continues, nine months behind and as much of a snoozefest as ever!

Safety first said...

I don't understand all the comments about the Duggrs favoring home births due to the cost. First of all, we know they can afford the hospital births, also as a hospital employee, I know that anyone can make arrangements for a way to pay for their hospitalization. No hospitals, or Dr.'s want to see someone risk their life or their baby's life over money & patients aren't treated any differently if they don't have the money to pay. I realize they aren't seen as charitable institutions, however there is always a way to work out your bill. Hospitals don't refuse care to any patients. So I don't believe these home births have a thing to do with the cost, it's simply the way the Duggars want to give birth to their babies, knowing they can have a film crew right there. Film crews are not always an option in a hospital, although we saw Michelle filmed, having her babies in the hospital & not just her emergency with Josie. The hospital births shown with Michelle, went all the way back to Jackson, when they first started the show. Oh sorry, I meant, started the ministry.

All Done said...

I absolutely agree that Derick, although probably an accountant, is not a CPA. The CPA exam is extremely difficult. & I'm not sure he would pass it.

Linda said...

Oops I just saw a previous comment I made and I left out a phrase, Theresa Fedowsky is THE WIFE of Dr Fedowsky who at least once had his license suspended. Sorry.

Fanny said...

Oh come on........$2.50 per book sale will not pay for 1/2 of a cheap steak for Derrick and only 3 cans of tomato sauce to fee the boys. The
Dullards need to think of a new scheme to make money. How about getting a job?? Getting off your arses, getting up at 6 am and going to work like most other people do. They are hitting the bottom of the bottom entering contests to win a few hundred dollars or get a little commission off of a child book sale.

sandi said...

Jmo,but I've always felt tlc bribes the Duggar offspring with a large check for a home birth.Recall how Josh was dead set against Anna transferring to a hospital,even though things were going south.Money talks.
And all the girls since have tried to do home births.
I hope Jinger will be smart and deliver in a hospital or birth facility,no matter what she is offered

Tori said...

Fanny: According to Derick he is slogging his guts out working a 9-5 to make ends meet, but he has never said what that 9-5 is. He is in ministry school so I am assuming that includes classes and seminars how does hit fit a 9-5 job in, does he work for the church as well as being a student? I know he is involved in trying to get overseas students in the nearby university to come to the church, is that what he does?? Why will he not say what he does for work, I suppose if you don't say it keeps people talking and he seems to like the attention good or bad.

Chris said...

Does anyone have any info on the girl that always seems to be attached to Jana's hip lately?

Elspeth said...

The young woman seen frequently with Jana is Laura DeMasie one of her very good friends.

Just annoyed said...

Personally I don't believe Derick would know real work if it bit him. How many people would be happy to have some type of office job, or be able to work with college kids, instead of working every day of the week, as well as holidays, in extremely physically demanding jobs? I wonder how Derick would enjoy working the night shift 11-7 or midnight to 8. That's exhausting, as you never get any real sleep. I have no sympathy for Derick. He's fortunate enough to have a college education & at one time had a decent job (Wallmart)but nobody seems to know exactly what happened to that job. He certainly could be working as an accountant doing taxes but he apparently sees himself above that type of work. He's a married man with 2 children & it's about time he got a real job, instead of hanging around college kids & being a pretend missionary.

Just annoyed said...

I meant to add to my post, that I believe Derick counts the time spent in classes, seminars & studying, as part of that 9-5 job he's talking about. Many of us have worked full time & attended classes at night. I don't believe Derick is doing that.

Just Sayin said...

re: Sandi's comment. I agree with you Sandi. I have said all along, that these home births started with Josh & Anna & the money, due to the huge ratings for the episodes filmed in their home. I know Michelle had home births but that was before they had the TV show. Michelle also had many hospital births, also filmed. I don't understand why it's constantly said that it's tradition in the Duggar family to have a home births, it never was until Josh & Anna. If it's a tradition it's a new one.

Should have known.... said...

Fanny, They are probably hoping everyone of their followers purchases one. Jill has 1.6 Million followers on Instagram alone, where she posted the link. If only half would purchase one at that rate (800,000 × $2.50) that is 2 Million dollars in commission for doing absolutely nothing. I am not sure how many followers Derick has on Twitter where he posted the same link. Not saying half their followers would purchase one, but they probably sure are hoping. That is enough money for Derick to sit and think about his next adventure.

Ginny Streeter said...

I just saw a couple of pictures of Jinger and Jeremy posted on the People Magazine site. I love, love, love that she truly is wearing "modest" clothing in the pictures. She has on cute pants and a maternity top that is NOT a skin tight T-Shirt. More and more, it seems like she is moving away from the "Duggar Way" and finding her own way. That makes me very happy. Jeremy also seems like a good guy who truly loves her and wants what is best for her and their baby.

Reality said...

Regarding Jill and Derick's book sales.. a cookie is placed in the visitor's browser and will be kept there for 21 days, so if they place an order it will be traced back to their Web page/link and they will earn money for that sale. So, anyone who clicks that link on their page and places an order(within 21 days of clicking the link), is putting money into Jill and Derick's bank account and probably not even aware of it.

Mickey2942 said...

It appeals to the fundie base, they want birth to be natural, at home, as it was for millennium. The issue often skipped over, is how many women and babies DIED in childbirth at home. Men of course, not the ones giving birth, decide for the woman, "You can give birth at home, no problem", and raised in obedience to men, they just nod their heads. These people are almost criminal in their lack of regard for the safety of their children. But the goal, is save money, and ratings gold. Home births it is...

Rudy said...

To TLC: I want to see Jinger going to her obstetrician for prenatal care. NO MORE HOME BIRTHS!!!!!!!!

Mickey2942 said...

Weddings yet to come:

Jana (28)
John David (28)
Jedediah (19)
his brother?(19)
The rest are boys until Johanna, age 12.

Joy, seems sort of sad to me to be married and pregnant, with a baby at age 20.

Kendra is already pregnant, due in February. Not sure what her husband does...hang out around the compound, ride an ATV, sell a few used cars..

Why are people still watching this boring show?

Julie Parks said...

How can Kendra be due in FEBRUARY?!?

nickle pickle said...

Kendra is like a teenager laughing at anything.She is like a Barbie doll? Joe seems like a Ken doll. To answer the question all these boys only can do two jobs. Be house flippers or sell used cars. How many used cars lots and house flippers can they have in that small town? Jim bod must have the word out for wives for his son? Wonder what he is giving to these fathers to find girls for his sons? This man would not get near my daughters. Anyone who has daughters and see the Duggars run.

Schooner said...

How is it that the whole Duggar family are so quick to give us the rules they create and follow and imply we should follow those rules too? All the rules of their cult but zero explanation of WHY. They use the Bible loosely when it fits their rule. These rules are EXTRA BIBLICAL. Nowhere in the Bible does it mention homeschool or having as many children as physically possible or chaperones or never leaving home alone or girls living with their parents until they marry or women wearing skirts to the knee or having scraggly hair that is never cut. Most of the rules are for the women if you notice.

smith said...

ww.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2010/08/debt-free-duggars-pt-2-quiverfull-royalty-vs-quivering-reality/

read this story very good details about this kind of families?

Not taking up for the Duggars... said...

I went to public school but no where in the Bible dies it talk about it, just like it doesn't talk about home school.

I haven't seen anything either way about chaperones.

Mickey2942 said...

Kendra's baby registry on Amazon is quite interesting. I wonder if JB pitches to companies for cash, to put items on the grift registry for advertising...Kendra wants a lot of organic cleaning products. Really? Who needs/wants organic baby high chair cleaning spray? I doubt this girl grew up with that as a common item, or would have even ordered it.

laura said...

Alright. Lemme see if I got this straight.
Ma n pa duggar have suffiently terrified their young children, for example, 12 yo Jill to the extent of hoping for heaven 'when they die' and telling their mother 'all the bad things they have done' in their lives.
Ma n pa duggar locked the girls in at night and sent their young pervy son to an old pervy man, now convicted of child porn etc etc and shushed his actions.
Pa duggar baptizes his young daughter who thinks she is a sinner and might not go to heaven while at the same time handing off newborns to her to raise next her her sisters who already have several pets of their own.
He then forces them to go on national telly to cry crocodile tears stupidly defending their parents and brothers actions.
This is in conjunction with copiously procreating and having grandma beg for handouts while touting themselves as conservative christians who deserve a public platform in the position of state representative.
So, males cant change baby diapers or clean or have real jobs but they can well....insert many different blanks here. You choose.
Can't make this stuff up. When's the lifetime movie?

lisa Mcginess said...

you are so right they are changing the bible for what they wanted to be? Sorry, you cannot do it. If the Duggars want to spread the gospel as it states in the bible get out there and do mission work. Not stay home and hide your children or hide in your home.

Aunt Bea said...

I think the 'be fruitful and multiply' phrase from the bible indicates to go out in the world and evangelize, bring the news about the existence of God to those who don't know about or believe in God...not to have children like you're a copy machine churning out 100 copies a minute. These people really misunderstand what the bible actually says....that goes for all versions of the bible.

Putting those extra over the top restrictions on yourself, doesn't endear you more to God. He loves us for believing in Him, not putting ourselves through unnecessary stress when either dating OR courting. One thing God DOES encourage here on Earth, I believe, is to grow and learn all we can when we're here on Earth, which doesn't include being sequestered in your house by your parents. One cannot grow if isolated.

Emma said...

Not taking up for the Duggars: The home school thing and chaparone thing is all about control. If the kids had gone to a regular school they would have been taught to think for themselves and even question things, particularly religion and all the loony rules their parents have imposed on them, and Jimbob couldn't have that. Also a teacher would have a duty to report anything considered an abuse issue, can you imagine how the whole Josh thing would have played out if the girls had told a teacher what was going on in that home. The chaparone thing is the same, they say they send them out in twos like the disciples but I havn't seen them trying to preach at Walmart or Aldi (although maybe Derick does). If they go out in twos there is always one to snitch on the other ( or stop them doing a runner). Jimbobs saying must be keep them dumb and dependant, but he really has done his kids a real disservice, he has clipped their wings and squashed any dreams they might have had.

Ginny Streeter said...

This is something that has been on my mind for a long time. Both the Duggars and the Bates go on and on with the phrase "we will trust God to decide the size of our family". If that is truly the case, then that would also hold true if God decided that you should have a small family or no children at all. Both Erin Bates and Michaela have had trouble either conceiving or carrying a child. Through the help of the medical profession, Erin has been able to carry three so far. It has been said that Michaela and her husband are seeding help through a fertility specialist. Now, I get the burning desire to have a child, and facing that you may never be able to have one and wanting to do anything you can to make your dream come true.........but that is not necessarily trusting God with the size of your family. I remember when Micheal and JB consulted with a fertility doctor when after they lost Jubilee and she didn't get pregnant again. To me that was just plan nuts. If you are TRULY going to trust God with your family planning........then you need to accept that it may be in His plan that you have no children.

Elspeth said...

Michelle and Jim Bob did not consult a fertility specialist. She saw an advanced OB-Gyn. TLC lied in their voice over.

Ruby said...

Why is Derick making himself into a total tool? Honestly, he is mugging for the camera, making a idiot out of himself. Get a job, Derick. Do something with yourself j stead of taking your wife out on lame car dates and kissing in the car. Are we 12? Grow up!!

aketa said...

Could Derick & Jill driving around picking up free food for advertising on their social media. Is this his new scam to beg for free stuff, eating an onion as the little boys are hungry in the back of the car? Go home and cook a nice meal and sit around the table with your kids and eat, not driving around like homeless gypsies wanting a handout.

lisa Mcginess said...

These people do not trust in God for their families? A mother who keeps her fertility chart in the kitchen Fridge

and keeps a close tt of pregnancy test is not trusting in God for a child. That is all a big lie? Why would a woman do that is just gross and awful.At every wedding, they only talk about having babies. Anna gave someone at a wedding shower a baby mobile? So we know that is not normal. Who keeps talking about babies all the time? They are obsessed with babies. Jim bod is always kissing Michelle and he did it in front of his kids when we said no kissing until you are married why keep tempting your kids with this do that were they cannot see you. This family is gross because of the mother and father.

Kerstin said...

Ginny Streeter, I think you have the answer in your question. It simply is a burning desire to have a child. The justification might be that they creat new life?

Tori said...

Ruby do you think he either doesn't like Jill getting all the attention or he knows it will stir up controversy and get people talking? He really seems to like any kind of attention, and loves to stir the pot and cause drama. He did behave in a very peculiar way in that insta live story, I watched it and felt very uncomfortable, I actually feel sorry for Jill.

laura said...

Hehe Josiah and Lauren have already posted car selfies.
Everyone asking what the young men do. They sit in cars when they arent flying planes or doing puzzles and take pictures of themselves

Not a hick said...

Jinger looks so elegant with the tasteful clothes she wears. Poor Jill and Jessa wear such tacky looking clothes while pregnant.

No wonder people think we are a bunch of hillbillies in AR.

Heart in Florida said...

I can't find this insta video of the Dillards driving around and Derick acting like a jerk.
Can someone please direct me to it?

Believe It said...

Re: Not a hicks comment about people thinking people are hillbillies. Please don't think that people think everyone in your state is a hillbilly. People are bright enough to realize that the Duggars are the exception to others with the way they dress, lack of education, socialization, etc.

zebracrossing said...

Heart in Florida....You can't see the Dillard/Derick/Jerk video unless you Follow Jill's instagram account.

Justa' wonderin' said...

On Jessa's instagram at the very top in their profile picture Ben is holding Henry. Did they dress their son in pink??

sandi said...

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/bringing-up-bates-erin-and-chad-pain-welcome-baby-no-3/

Erin and Alyssa have both had their babies.Two days apart.
I'm guessing Erin was induced early again,due to her blood clotting problem.
Everly only weighed 5 lb 4 oz.
Alyssa had another 6 pounder.
The Bates overall have much smaller,closer to normal birth weights than the Duggars