Tues, February 9, 2010, Duggars Fly South

It's time to check in with Josh, Anna, and the first GrandDuggar, Mackynzie. The couple packs up baby for her first trip to visit Anna's family in Florida. They also make a special stop to reminisce about how they started their family.

30 minutes

120 comments:

SuzanneDeAZ said...

This sounds like a very interesting showing with Josh and Anna returning to her roots.

Shari said...

This probably has Michelle gnashing her teeth. It's become so apparent that she craves the spotlight, even to the point of getting pregnant ASAP when Anna did.....I foresee some big time competition between those too as time goes on.

dixiegirl3179 said...

Anna's family lives close to me. I met her mother in the parking lot of a McDonalds in my town lol. I was in my car eating an angus burger when she walked up and started talking to me through the window. She gave me a pamplet about the duggars and book. She seemed really sweet. It would have been cool to have seen them while they were here. Their town isn't close enough for us to have come across each other though.

Midwest Mom said...

from the synopsis: " They also make a special stop to reminisce about how they started their family.."
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Please, I hope this reminiscing doesn't include the date of the baby's conception or any other details that no one wants to know.

Having to hear JB&Michelle talk about last Father's Day (Josie's conception) still has me sick to my stomach.

Beedageeda said...

Zzzzz! Boring! Leave and cleave, please! Tell me, what is interesting about a young couple with one baby? Not to say that having one baby isn't special...of course it is...but it's not exactly reality tv worthy. Their ignorance and arrogance is just too much.
And, it seemed obvious to me that the Kellers weren't particularly interested in being on camera and now it looks like they too are selling out to TLC. Yuck. I won't be watching this one.

Joanne said...

That sounds a little strange. Why would Mrs. Keller be handing out pamphlets about the Duggars in a Mcdonalds parking lot? Is the goal to win people over to the Duggar/ Quiverfull/fundamental lifestyle? The more I read about this the more cultish this particular branch of Christianity seems. Mrs. Keller seems nice enough when we have seen her on tv if maybe a little simple and totally under her husbands control. But why would she be in a parking lot promoting the Duggars - sounds strange

Anonymous said...

Josh and Anna are very entertaining to watch. In a world where 30 year olds still live with their mothers, these two are an example of the kind of maturity that we're lacking in society today.

Anonymous said...

Josh and Anna are showing maturity when she sits in his lap ?
No thanks.

TLC_FML said...

Anonymous 9:28...

Sure, it is easy to live on your own at age 21 when your parents give you a used car lot to own, your grandparents vacated house becomes your own, and TLC is dropping $$ in your account in exchange for being on TV.

Not everyone can be so "lucky".

Anonymous said...

My hubby and I married at the same age as Josh and Anna. I am so glad no one was around to film us. We couldn't keep our hands off each other! I think their PDAs are normal for newlyweds.

I understand the Duggars helped Josh and Anna get started in life. How is that different from parents paying for college for a child? So Josh wanted to go into business for himself rather than go to school. That's his choice. My husband's dad owned rental property when we married. He gave us a house to live in at cost. (what it cost my
father in law to maintain). If they can stay debt free, that
would be great. Being debt free is an awesome way to live.

Jane in California said...

Anonymous at 10:11 a.m. said:
My hubby and I married at the same age as Josh and Anna. I am so glad no one was around to film us. We couldn't keep our hands off each other! I think their PDAs are normal for newlyweds.
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I well remember being that young and in love and very touchy feely as well. I also remember that I was raised to behave modestly in public by my mother, and I did so. My b/f and I limited our PDA to holding hands, making sickenly sweet faces at each other and kissing now and again (and I don't mean making out or french kissing, just quick kisses).

We both were mannered enough to save the more personal affection for when we were not out and about where other people might see. I certainly would never have engaged in sitting on his lap in front of cameras.

I think the cameras are intrusive and I'm sorry that Josh and Anna allow such private moments to be filmed. Either they have very poor impulse control, or they are playing up their newlywed "can't keeps our hands off each other" status for the camera. Neither one is something I find laudable.

Anonymous said...

Really. I got married at 21, my husband was 23. Difference is, I was in my senior year of college. And we didn't have a child until we had been married three years, enough time for me to start my teaching career and for my husband to get more established. We took no help from our parents, we had both been on our own since the age of 17. You don't have to be in some religious cult (and I'm Christian, but I consider what the Duggars believe to be way over the top) to be independent, hard-working and make your marriage work.

(By the way, we've been married 20 years!)

Jo said...

My husband and I got married at 21 also and we never acted like Josh and Anna. We held hands and kissed before the wedding, maybe that is the difference. We were allowed to express our caring and love for each other and it was never viewed as wrong or sinful.
We too are Christians and were able to save intimacy for marriage. It is not easy , but it can be done. Been married over 20 years too.

Anonymous said...

Sounds boring but I guess they need something to focus on other than a sickly baby. I wonder if the ratings drop when the show focuses on Josh. They're taking another plane ride, huh? Who cares? Were planes invented yesterday? I would only care if John was flying the plane. He wants to be a pilot but the Duggar parents won't support him on that.

Anonymous said...

He wants to be a pilot but the Duggar parents won't support him on that.

In the article I read, Jimbob was very supportive.

Anonymous said...

I actually think this episode will be refreshing since it finally won't be all about Jim Bob and Michelle. I really enjoy seeing Anna b/c she's like an 'outsider' learning how to function within the Duggar institution. It's interesting to me..

Honestly, I think all the Duggar women are pretty interesting. Whether or not you agree with their beliefs, those women are pretty amazing and strong. The men on the other hand... well.. I don't find anything about them to be that impressive.

Anonymous said...

In the article I read, Jimbob was very supportive.
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How has he been supportive? He helped John start a towing business not take flying lessons. In their book they discourage John from being a pilot because the job would take him away from his future family too much.

lukebandit said...

how horrible! that jb and m will not allow jd to go to school to learn how to be a pilot! what is wrong with them? m said that there would be money for each child to go to college if they wanted to! what a crock! how dare them deprive that young man a noble profession and start him up a towing business. has jb forgot pilots work in the mission field? i will never forget when the older girls got their wisdom teeth taken out and they were in there bedroom trying to rest when jb dragged all the kids in to see them what someone looks like when they get their wisdom teeth out. i then look at jessa or jd twin in the bed and guess who was in a baby bouncer sitting right next to her on the bed? jordan grace. that young lady was having to take care of the baby will she was RECOVERING from surgery. i just could not believe it. those kids will never be able to leave that place and have a life of their own. the older kids look beyond bored and they always look tired. and also something else that burns me up too is when the girls get married and at the reception, they can't dance or jb will never know the joy of dancing at his daughter's wedding with his married daughter. how sad.

Can't See Sheep said...

Anonymous said...

In the article I read, Jimbob was very supportive.
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How has he been supportive? He helped John start a towing business not take flying lessons. In their book they discourage John from being a pilot because the job would take him away from his future family too much.
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That's unpleasant & untrue. The Duggars need to do their research on this one.I have pilots in my family, one is a commercial pilot the others are not, all still make a very nice living & are home by 5 or 6 each night, like most dads. There are a number of jobs where JD could get his pilot's licence, fly a plane & remain close to his future family. One that comes immediately to mind is flight instructor, which if you want you can have a commercial background for or not, depending on which groups you're teaching.

JD is one of the few I liked on this show & I am sad to see his dreams broken when they don't have to be. Sorry, but IMO towing vehicles for a living is not as interesting as being a pilot. I don't believe they should have discouraged him like that, it was unkind to say the least, especially as it was not given any research to see if it was possible for him to have his dream & be there for his future family. Given JD's personality I think he would have made a great instructor.

Steve knight said...

Honestly, I think all the Duggar women are pretty interesting. Whether or not you agree with their beliefs, those women are pretty amazing and strong. The men on the other hand... well.. I don't find anything about them to be that impressive.

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they will only be strong if they don't follow the gothard junk if they do they will be submissive and will not be able to do much of anything that will express their strength. that is not a virtue the nutty beliefs follow.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 9:28 said:

Josh and Anna are very entertaining to watch.
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I find nothing compelling about their sleeping late, sitting around, smiling for the camera, and following the rest of the Duggar crowd on paid vacations.

Bubbles said...

They are visiting the restaurant where Josh proposed and they got engaged. That's how their family started.

Jana's a Hottie said...

I hope we don't keep seeing so much of Josh and Anna. Anna is as sweet as can be but something just rubs me the wrong way about Josh. Something just isn't quite right.

I'd rather watch an episode or three about the older girls having to take care of Michelle's brood while she's stuck in Little Rock with the premie.

Oh, and MVPs of the whole series to this point are Jackson Bates and Clark Wilson.

Whitney said...

They also make a special stop to reminisce about how they started their family.


This makes it sound like they've been married for 10 years and have 3 or 4 kids.

gettingbored said...

For crying out loud! Josh and Anna have barely been married and they're going to reminisce? Saw on the preview where they visit Gator Landing and Josh says something about how it's like going back in time. He acts like they've been married for 50 years or something. And I'm getting bored watching Duggars fly around in planes. Big deal.

Anonymous said...

I like JD too and I also think he would make a great pilot or some other job that requires equanimity. He seems a bit sullen to me. I really think that their whole family identity is all about JB and his "macho" ego and Michelle using motherhood as her sole purpose and identity in life. I think that she doesn't know who she is without being pregnant or nursing. Jim Bob, we get it; you are virile. You can stop now.

Instead, how about getting to know your kid and maybe honoring his God given individuality and maybe showing him that you value him as more than a number or warm body in your brood? Maybe offer him some help in learning more about aviation. It's a long and costly road, but surely you can help him pay for it now that you are on TLC's payroll.

Then again, TLC will probably do a show with him at an airport for a lesson or two to trick everyone in to thinking that the Duggars are actually about their kids and not themselves.

Ollie said...

How do we even know that John David still wants to be a pilot? He was like what, sixteen or so when he said that? Most people do not end up in the career they had picked out for themselves when they were that age. Maybe JD looked into becoming a pilot and decided that he wasn't actually interested in the reality of it. I think it's unfair to say JB/M are preventing their children from pursuing their dreams when we don't even know if that's what their children want.

Anonymous said...

Not one of those kids will every get to do something THEY are interested in. Instead, they will be stuck in the drudgery of raising their siblings, working in sorry, tired used car lots or towing businesses, or whatever else Jim Bob cooks up as an "appropriate" place to work.

SAD!

Celestie said...

I have a burning question about Josh. In one episode, he was seen spraying his hair. Where does he think one inch long hair is going to go if it is not sprayed throughly? Or as the Duggars would say "through".

Would someone please give this family a few adverbs!

Anonymous said...

I guess since his daddy seems to use a can of hair spray a day he thinks he should, too.

I think it's ridiculous.

reality bites said...

Ollie said:
How do we even know that John David still wants to be a pilot? He was like what, sixteen or so when he said that? Most people do not end up in the career they had picked out for themselves when they were that age. Maybe JD looked into becoming a pilot and decided that he wasn't actually interested in the reality of it. I think it's unfair to say JB/M are preventing their children from pursuing their dreams when we don't even know if that's what their children want.
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But, on the other hand, how do we know he doesn't still want to be a pilot. My brother was born to fly. He made the models as a kid, watched planes constantly, drew them, and said he was going to be a pilot. He just retired from the military, and yep, he was a fighter pilot. My parents encouraged him. Got him into ROTC, flight clubs, ect...because they saw his dream. I think some people are just born to fly, just as some people are born to LOVE horses. My niece rode her first pony at two and now at thirty, is a horse trainer. Some of us do hang onto our dreams and have people who encourage us.
I keep thinking of Jana's face when Anna was talking to Mrs. Bates about childbirth. She seemed fascinated. I think that is her dream, and it's not being encouraged. Just sad.

Anonymous said...

working in sorry, tired used car lots or towing businesses,

There is no shame in honest labor.

grace said...

I agree with Ollie. We can't assume that John David still wants to be a pilot just because he made that comment once on a show a few years back. Kids that age change their minds all the time. I do, however, think the kids are "encouraged" to choose what their parents want them to choose, based on what is appropriate by their standards. Those kids are free to choose college just like Michelle is free to decide if she wants to get pregnant again.

lauren said...

So, has anyone else noticed that maybe Anna looks a bit pregnant? It could be that she still has some baby weight since the delivery. I don't know how quickly things go back to normal (never had a baby) but it seems like she is wearing larger, pregnancy looking clothing in the last couple of episodes. Maybe they are going down memory lane because they are about to add to the family again. I dvr the episodes and I paused them a couple of times and definitely noticed the possibility. I'm just saying.

Whitney said...

I just noticed this. Now I love Anna but I don't think the credits do her justice. When they cut to the video of her it shows her staring out the window an since the clip is so short it seems like she's kind of "out of it". I think TLC could have chosen a better shot of Anna for that part.

debbiejo said...

Anonymous said:

"Not one of those kids will every get to do something THEY are interested in. Instead, they will be stuck in the drudgery of raising their siblings, working in sorry, tired used car lots or towing businesses, or whatever else Jim Bob cooks up as an "appropriate" place to work."

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As those kids reach the age of 18, any of them can easily leave home and do what they want to do. Kids from very protective type homes leave home all the time..sometimes on good terms with their parents, sometimes not so good.

I agree that it would probably be ideal for their parents to encourage them to go out and do something else, but all over America kids grow up and choose to leave.

I would think the Duggar kids will be the same...if they want to leave, they will. No reason Jana wont leave home to pursue her dream if she wants to.

Ancient of Days said...

working in sorry, tired used car lots or towing businesses,
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There is no shame in honest labor.
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There's certainly no shame in honest labor. I'm concerned for Josh and JD not because of the kind of work they do, but because of my feeling that they'd like to be doing something else. Josh might want to argue cases in court, JD might like to head for the wild blue yonder.

If they want to sell and/or tow, that's fine, but Josh and JD should have some say in how they spend their days.

Cyn said...

I've read the book 3 times cover to cover... I can't find where Michelle or Jimbob "discouraged" any of their kids from doing what they wanted to do. Can you point me to the correct page?

I do remember reading in an article that John was living at home to save money FOR piloting lessons, or what ever it was John wanted to do with his live.

PS The "tired old car lot" is a step up from the way JimBob started he sold cars out of his front LAWN. Michelle sat at home all day and answered questions if any one happened to stop buy. The buyers would then have to come back AFTER working hours so that JimBob could write up the contracts or answer questions. He also towed cars on HIS schedule... Funny how those "tired ole businesses" bought the land and the house they now live in.

Ollie said...

Well that was a boring episode. I'm sure it was fun for Josh to fly in an airplane, but really it wasn't worth the ten-fifteen minutes of screen time they gave it. Seriously, nothing of interest happened in this episode, it might have made a good web episode, but surely not good prime time television.

Ladylou said...

I wish Anna had a small amount of "back bone". She looks and acts like a 12 year old. That look of love she gives Josh is just creepy. I can't define what it is I am just bothered by it.
The Duggar girls are far less backward acting as Anna. They can dish out one liners as quick as any sassy high schooler. Is this from being in front of cameramen?

I feel sorry that she will be even more controlled by her husband than Michelle is. I am sure even thought they say Jim Bob is the head of the household, I am positive Michelle puts her cents worth in also.

I hope Anna isn't expecting again so soon... the whole idea of this quiver thing is ridiculous in this day and age. Why can't the Duggar men just keep it in their pants a while longer? Let the women be moms to the baby of the moment.

I hope Michelle & Jim Bob heed what God is telling them...
Enough is Enough!

Squeak said...

I think that Josh is one of THE most annoyingly arrogant people ever.

IMO, he appears to look down on his wife's family, and that's sad.

I'd much rather watch down-to-earth people like the Bates or the Wilson's or the Keller's ANY day over Josh flying around in a plane thinking he's Mr. Awesome.

Sadly, I think the charm in (what used to be) my favorite show is exiting stage left. They are just getting a little too big for their britches and it's making them completely unrelatable now.

Can something like that even be repaired? Or will it just seem like more staging? We'll see...

Mandy said...

I find episodes where we get to hear from Anna to be interesting. I think the fact that she came from outside the Duggar family makes her comments a bit more interesting.

As for all the time spent on the flight to Florida, I think that talking about a baby's first flight is worth mentioning but not for as long as they did.

And I think it's cool that they went back to the same restaurant that he proposed to her at. I don't think that Josh looks down on her family, I just think he tends to be awkward in some social situations (like when he was greeting the family).

I wished they'd done more interview questions with Anna's family instead of showing so much of Anna being worried about Josh up in the airplane.

I'm also looking forward to next week's episode and seeing how the relocation works out for them while Josie is in the hospital. Also, I think the older girls really do love being with their family and that if they wanted something different they'd make it happen. And who knows what they're doing that we don't see?

Anonymous said...

Josh shot Anna a very nice look when she said that they were making up for what they missed out on their engagemet.

Anonymous said...

Josh is annoying but he's not in the show much anymore. They usually give him and Anna an episode once or twice a season and then we don't have to see them again. It was a very dull episode. I think they are just fast piecing together some episodes since Josie's early birth threw a wrench into the show's plans.

Next week they say the family is downsizing when moving into the Little Rock mansion but I heard that house is 8000 sq. feet. That's bigger than their house. Anyway, I want to see the sleeping arrangements. Are the kids finally sleeping in different rooms or did they cram 9 boys into a one bedroom and 8 girls in another?

Anonymous said...

That was a totally boring episode.

I think Anna looks pregnant, although she claimed she wasn't, when Josh said, "can I ask you a question" in the restaurant. She was wearing the green maternity shirt that Michelle always wears too.

Josh and Anna AND the baby went into the NICU to see baby Josie. If that isn't insane, I don't know what it. So many, many germs, and the footage of the kids getting their temperatures taken was shown after the episode, after Sean had a chance to read the outrage on the blogs. Oh, so NOW they say they took temperatures (still no masks, gowns, washing up, or adherence to numbers of allowed visitors, including children under 14). Are you listening Sean?

We also saw some footage of Michelle holding Jordyn I think. Thanks Sean! That was in response to our saying none of the little kids even reached for her in the hospital.

It's a good thing we have these blogs so that the producers can put in footage based on what we question!

nccalgal said...

This would have been a great opportunity for us to get to know Anna's family better; even if it was just, "This is my sister so-and-so, her husband and their children 1, 2, and 3." Instead we just see a bunch of people without having a clue how they are related. Also, the brief shot of the church service looked like it was all men-made me wonder if they practiced separation by gender.

Midwest Mom said...

Anonymous: "Josh shot Anna a very nice look when she said that they were making up for what they missed out on their engagement".

Grace 3:59 said, " Those kids are free to choose college just like Michelle is free to decide if she wants to get pregnant again.


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Don't most newlyweds make up for lost time?
Nothing special there.

And I thought that it was "God's will" if Michelle got pregnant again. Isn't that what the Duggars always say, that it's God's will ?
Michelle's not allowed to say "no" to JimBob's righteous fulfillment (to use their words for sex), otherwise, she'd be "defrauding" him, right ?

Millie at home said...

I don't usually care for shows that feature Josh and Anna but last nights show held my interest. I agree that Anna looks like she could be pregnant but I would seriously doubt it. Her baby was only 3 months old when that show was taped at Christmas and she would hardly be show at a couple of months. Besides, she may do as her mother-in-law and practice abstinence for 80 days after the birth of a girl. I think the Kellers are even more conservative than the Duggars. Josh has always come across as a bit of a "stuffed shirt", I think it is just his personality.

If Jana wants to be a midwife, ATI actually offers a course if you check it out. They're are medical doctors referenced on that site, so I am sure even the true Gothards believe in medicine to some degree.

I would think that if Jon David truly wants to be a pilot that will be encouraged by his parents as he would be very useful as a missionary pilot. We don't know but what he is doing this training and just filling in time while he gets in his flying hours needed to fly solo. From what I hear in my own church, there is a big need for pilots in the mission field.

bored to death said...

I'm sure in next weeks episode they will be doing a Brady Bunch thing. After all the boys & girls have to stay close. The person who said here about Anna talking like she was 12, I think Michelle talks like a 8 year at times. Like at Anna's baby shower, she refered to Anna mother and sisters as: Oh, your mommy and sisies are here, how stupid does a grown woman have to sound, it's bad enough with some of theses women on TV acting that way but a woman with 19 children. Michelle needs to hang out with adults once in a while and not JimBob, he treats her like a child at times. JMO And that scene at the hospital at the beginning, where Michelle was leading the way into the room where Josie was, was weird. The look on her face, was one of: well children this is what I made, and she is sick, and you will have to deal with it, and expecting some kind of reaction out of them, what I saw was a bunch of kids, who did not know how to react to what they were seeing. I also notice that some were not over thrilled about seeing Josie either. JMO

Melanie said...

Zzzz.... I found this episode a bit of a snoozer. It's so boring to see yet another instance of a male Duggar doing something 'dangerous' or 'life threatening' like flying in a small plane, skydiving (has Jim Bob bungee jumped? I can't remember), and going through the whole "take care of the kids if I don't make it" routine.

It makes me crazy, since a.) I question the actual danger of these activities, and b.) nobody is making them do it! You're choosing to do this! I wonder whether the producers push for this kind of fake-o dialogue, or whether Josh and Jim Bob truly feel the need for all this false drama. Yuck! At least there was some Christmas footage at the Keller residence to balance it out.

My favourite episodes are the same as a lot of commenters: I like seeing the daily routines of the older girls and boys, especially the regular events that happen inside the home. The whole reason I like watching the Duggars is to see what routines and practices help them run their household smoothly - without the fundamentalist religious insanity and oppression, that is!

I'm thinking stuff like big-batch cooking, division of chores, making things like laundry soap from scratch, shopping second-hand, living without TV and encouraging cooperation amongst siblings - things that I could use when I have my own family. I do realize that their entire family routine and division of labour is based on patriarchy and careful ultra-conservation religious indoctrination, but surely there are ways to incorporate their household routines into a liberal, secular family?

Cyn said...

@Melanie...

In the back of the Duggar book she gives references to where she got most of her ideas. From the buddy system, to organizations, to jurisdictions.

another RN said...

I watch the Duggars similar reasons as Melanie. I love the organization and teamwork. I am all about being frugal, modest and debt free, not in a religious sense, but a practical, better quality of life, better for the environment sense. I could do without all the ultra-conservative religious stuff.

I read over the ATI midwifery program and dug a little farther into the Verity Institute. These programs appear to be unaccredited. The midwifery program is not a nationally recognized curriculum, so while it may work in Gothard land, here in the northeast, it would be a waste of Jana's $6500. She could not legally practice here with that training. It just reads like another way for Gothard to build his empire and get rich, and JB and M and Josh and Anna are providing free publicity for him. He just seems like a charlatan to me and I am actually very surprised that the Duggars, who are "Christian", follow a mere mortal's teachings so closely. Food for thought, IMO.

Jackie said...

Has anyone else noticed that we never see Michelle and JB hanging around with other adults it is only themselves and their children. I would love to see an episode (after Josie is doing better) of Michelle and JB doing something social with friends and WITHOUT THEIR 19 CHILDREN.

Char said...

I agree with one of the previous posters that I would much rather watch the older Duggar girls for a half an hour rather than Josh. Anna is sweet and is more tolerable to watch than her husband but last nights episode was lame. Poor Anna almost losing her marbles over the plane ride.

Ugh.

Would love, love, love to see Jana, Jinger, Jessa, and Joyanna highlighted in an episode.

Josh stinks said...

Did anyone else find it icky that Anna packed up the back of the SUV all by herself while Josh talked to the camera, looking drowsy, of course?! And then again at the airport while she's lugging the baby inside and he says he can't help her with the luggage because he can't stay parked in front of the terminal?? I'm all for women's lib but come on- we all know he's a condecesending sexist dimwit. I thought he was rude with an attitude when he greeted Anna's family. If my husband acted that way I'd make his stay out in the camper all by his lonesome.

Anonymous said...

I don't think that the show last night was boring at all. Maybe it was over kill a little bit w/ Josh and the airplane but it was nice to see Anna interact w/ her side of the family. Too bad the show did not show more of the Keller's at x-mas. It looks like Anna is still has some pregnacy weight still but that is to be expected since it has only been 3 months since she delivered. The green shirt that Anna was wearing was a polo shirt and not the green maturnity top that Michelle has as well.

Millie at home said...

Another RN, I am also an RN with an advanced practice degree in Maternal Nursing. Some of my classmates were going for their midwife certification which in this case means a Masters degree with a specialization in Labor and Delivery. I think their are shorter programs, but the program offered at ATI is simply a course in being helpful to others while they are in labor, sort of like a "doula" I expect. The midwife I would trust would be the one with the MSN but that takes about 6 years of college education. I am not sure that Jana would be interested in spending that much of her young life in school. She could get this training up to the BSN level in a Christian college, I'm not sure about the MSN. A few years ago I had a nursing friend who had an associate degree (RN) who was going on for another year somewhere to become a midwife. I don't know if that was a certified program or not. Nursing education has so many levels, degrees, certificates, etc that it can be very confusing!

Millie at home said...

If you look up midwife requirements in the state of Arkansas there are two levels; the first is the one I referred to in my earlier post who will be certified by the NLN with the accepted education and examination. The other level is the Lay Midwife who is required to have 74 Antepartum vists and 30 "experiences" with labor, delivery, evaluation of mother and child all under the supervision on a Physician or a certified midwife. This would be what I would expect Jana to do , and the ATI program may qualify her for this, I havn't looked at it close enough to know. The program is designed for a state in which many mothers are too poor or to far away to afford regular antenatal care and a hospital delivery. We have recently moved to Arkansas and many things are different here than in other states where I have lived or worked. It is interesting. I think that some of the "little girl" tones and some of the different terminology we hear are natural to this state.

Kat said...

Josh shot Anna a very nice look when she said that they were making up for what they missed out on their engagement.

Didn't watch the show, but...but...what could they have MISSED OUT on? Surely I recall Josh talking about how WONDERFUL it was that they waited, because it made everything SOOOOO much better. These folks just can't keep their stories straight...

As for the way the women talk - I've noticed they all seem to have the same speech pattern. Not so much the words they use, but a way of talking like they have marbles in their mouths, or speaking in a somewhat hesitant manner. Hard to describe, but distinctly different from the average speech pattern of an adult. I thought it was just a Duggar thing until Anna joined the show - She talks just like that, too. Mrs. Bates doesn't seem to do this - wonder if it was her college experiences that "upgraded" her speech?

Anonymous said...

Re: Anna looking pregnant and/or the possibility of wearing maternity clothes...

At the time this episode was filmed, baby Mackynzie was probably little more than 2.5 months old. It takes some time to loose baby weight, and any mother can tell you that your body is never the same. I delivered my own first born just before Anna did, and I've lost more weight than I gained already. But I still look pregnant sometimes!

Additionally, if Anna is still wearing maternity clothes, I would attribute that more to her comfort (especially if she's still nursing) and to the couple's desire to be frugal. Maybe she can't yet fit into her old clothes - no point buying something if you can only wear it a short time. And it doesn't look like her clothes are swimming on her or anything.

Anonymous said...

Josh was a rude jerk when he said the Keller's trailer needed a power wash.

Whitney said...

Josh was a rude jerk when he said the Keller's trailer needed a power wash.

Oh wow, I missed that but that is a horrendous thing to say. He seems to like the spotlight way too much. Whenever their is an opportunity to talk to the camera he takes it and 95% of what comes out of his mouth is either redundant or not really worth my time.

Anonymous said...

I had to use itunes to watch this. as tlc does not put it online.


I really dislike how Josh mimics his dad in just about everything, like asking Anna to marry him again.


I hope for healths sake that Anna is not pregnant again so soon. Some woman just dont just snap back so soon.


I did find it odd that they didnt bring her car seat along on the plane. I guess her parents had one for her to use.

I wish they would stop talking about saving the first kiss. its old news, already.


I would love a girls day out eppy. where the older girls get a day off and free of siblings and chores.

They work very hard and could use some pampering

Jane in California said...

Josh stinks said...

Did anyone else find it icky that Anna packed up the back of the SUV all by herself while Josh talked to the camera, looking drowsy, of course?! And then again at the airport while she's lugging the baby inside and he says he can't help her with the luggage because he can't stay parked in front of the terminal?? I'm all for women's lib but come on
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I didn't watch the episode, but your description of Josh's behavior made me roll my eyes. Actually, this seems to exemplify that the woman is the pack mule of the family, and the man is the peacock. Anna is setting herself up for worse to come with her misplaced hero worship of Josh.

The sad thing is, Josh actually probably believes he is very chivalrous toward his wife. Hey dude, you made your wife have her home birth filmed for all the world to see, and that was just 3 months ago. Maybe you could do a little of the heavy lifting, at least for awhile?

Lazy is as lazy does. Where is this young man's spark and ambition? What does he plan to do with his life? Is he going to sell used cars part time forever? Where is that American can-do spirit and work ethic? He makes his wife load the vehicle while he stands there yapping? Dang, man up already.

luvmybabies said...

Has anyone else noticed that Anna has really great cheekbones? During the interview portion this is what I kept thinking!

shelby said...

I hated this episode I cannot stand to watch Anna talk she drives me nuts, I dont know what it is but I cringe just to look at her
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I did find it odd that they didnt bring her car seat along on the plane. I guess her parents had one for her to use.
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They may have checked her carseat in. Im not sure wasnt really paying attention but in order to carry it on you have to purchase a seat.
I am glad they did this show though because everone was complaining about not having any footage on her first Christmas and we all need to know

mom of 2 said...

Regarding Anna looking pregnant, she seems to have a small frame and I'm guessing she just still has some baby weight. I weighed 100 lbs at 5'4'" and it took me forever to lose the 60lbs I gained after both of my pregnancies. I almost cried after my first was born because I was shocked that I couldn't leave the hospital in my regular clothes! I had to wear my husbands shirts or tents for months! So it may just be that Anna is petite and the baby weight shows more. I notice this is not the case for taller women as much. I doubt she was pregant in this episode but she could be now, who knows! :)

Enough with the Multiples said...

I was glad to see that Anna got to spend the holidays with her family and Mackenyzie got attention from atleast one set of grandparents (as I seriously doubt that she gets much attention from the other set who run around acting like newlyweds obsessed with making babies.) It was really nice to see the Kellers with their grandchild, acting like doting grandparents. Anna certainly deserved a break after caring for the unruly younger Duggar kids and packing the car herself as they prepared to leave for the trip. If I was Anna, I'd start pushing the issue of relocating to Florida.

Whitney said...

Has anyone else noticed that Anna has really great cheekbones? During the interview portion this is what I kept thinking!

Anna is a very pretty and sweet person it seems. Its a shame that she doesn't seem to know her own self worth. She can do so much better. Just think, a guy that would help her load up the car, would get up and work a full days work, would treat her like an equal...

Anonymous said...

Jackie said...
Has anyone else noticed that we never see Michelle and JB hanging around with other adults it is only themselves and their children. I would love to see an episode (after Josie is doing better) of Michelle and JB doing something social with friends and WITHOUT THEIR 19 CHILDREN.



There has been some of this shown in the past. One episode they showed JimBob and Michelle going out to lunch with Michelle's sister and husband for her birthday. They also have been shown spending time talking with Gil and Kelly Bates by themselves. Michelle has also been filmed going to baby showers and such by herself, without all the children in tow.

I suspect it would make a pretty boring episode to film these two going to dinner with another couple and just talking, as the name of the show is 19 kids and counting, and is about the kids.

GET WELL JOSIE said...

Josh has gotten tubby! Holy Moly! I can't stand him, and Anna, what is up with that weird part in your hair? Are those bangs plastered to your forehead?

Yes, I heard Josh say the trailer needed powerwashed.

Did anyone else notice he didn't offer to help carry the items the man had in his arms...cooler, etc. at the church service.

I don't care for Josh AT ALL!

Krissy said...

I like Anna, but something about Josh just irritates the crap out of me, he comes across just as smarmy and phony as his annoying father.

The more I watch this show the more increasing pity I have for those older girls. I don't care what anyone says about family and togetherness, those girls looks straight up miserable. What teenage girl wants to be stuck in a house her whole life being a surrogate mom to a horde of children? I always find it sad whenever the family goes on an outing and it's always the girls pushing strollers and carrying babies while Michelle walks around in lala land.

Jo said...

Josh and Anna make for a boring show. It is okay to see them sometimes but not for an entire episode. They just don't have much to offer. Josh needs to work on his personality.He really seems quite annoying at times. I wish Anna would speak without looking at him. It seems like she has to really think about what she says in order to please him. She seems to be very sweet and just adores him and I wonder how he got so lucky. He might have been thought of as "catch" in their world I guess.

mom of 2 said...

I like Anna as well. I think she is sweet and not self-obsessed. She also doesn't seem to be too crazy about the camera, although she is getting a little more comfortable w/ it. I hope the Duggars (JB & M) are able to give Macenzie (spelling?) more attention in the future.

Enough with the Multiples said...

re: Anna's look--cheek bones and pregnant look:

I think Anna would definitely benefit from a little makeover. I wish she'd get to spend more time with her sisters, some of whom seem to have a more fashionable senese of dress than the Duggars. Since becoming pregnant, Anna seems to have adopted Michelle's wardrobe--I swear they both have that same green maternity shirt. Anna needs to hang/shop with some girls her own age instead of her mother-in-law. Would have liked to have seen closer the new clothes she got for Christmas.

I also noticed that either the thrift store had a big donation of name brand clothes or Josh is shoppping at the mall these days, per the shirts and sweatshirts that he wore in this episode that sported name brand logos on them.

I don't think Anna was pregnant when this was filmed as she made a joke about it with Josh at one point. I think she is just still carrying weight from having Mackenzyie. Maybe if she didn't have to care for her mother in laws's kids, she'd get a little time during the day to do a work out tape or something---is that allowed in Duggarland or is WW the only option for losing weight with them?

Anonymous said...

Was I the only one hoping the plane would crash? LOL

Anonymous said...

Was I the only one hoping the plane would crash?
,br>Probably so.....

Anonymous said...

Was I the only one hoping the plane would crash?
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I certainly wasn't hoping it would crash, but with all the emotional build up I thought it was going to crash or make an emergency landing or something....so it was kind of a let down when nothing happened, like all that build up for nothing...

Anonymous said...

On the name brand things that Josh and some of the other older Duggars have been wearing...I shop at consignment and thrift stores all the time. You can find all types of name brand clothing in them, some still with the tags on them. I have bought "in-season" Gymboree, American Eagle, Ann Taylor, etc. You have to go on the day they put out new stock or you have to dig thru tons of worn out stuff, but if you invest the time you can get really good buys.

Celestie said...

No I did not want the plane to crash. I harbor no I'll will toward any Duggar

i did notice Josh was getting quite the "mountain dew" belly. And that he was lazy about handling bags or offering to help carry the cooler etc. He is a little prince, isn't he?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Jackie said...
Has anyone else noticed that we never see Michelle and JB hanging around with other adults it is only themselves and their children. I would love to see an episode (after Josie is doing better) of Michelle and JB doing something social with friends and WITHOUT THEIR 19 CHILDREN.



There has been some of this shown in the past. One episode they showed JimBob and Michelle going out to lunch with Michelle's sister and husband for her birthday. They also have been shown spending time talking with Gil and Kelly Bates by themselves. Michelle has also been filmed going to baby showers and such by herself, without all the children in tow.

I suspect it would make a pretty boring episode to film these two going to dinner with another couple and just talking, as the name of the show is 19 kids and counting, and is about the kids.
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And there was the episode where they went to California, just the two to them.

Anonymous said...

There are thrift stores, also, that only carry trendy clothes. It's a chain of them called Plato's Closet - they're all over the country. But they only sell trendy teen and young adult-oriented clothes - all brand names. If not for that place, my daughter wouldn't have any clothes!

Anonymous said...

"so it was kind of a let down when nothing happened, like all that build up for nothing..."

Just like every recent Duggar episode, they are really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Yawn.

Anonymous said...

I live in Arkansas and we have an annual radio-thon for Ar Childrens Hospital. The local radio stations and TV stations get involved. Over the last 5 or 6 years it has raised over a million dollars. The Duggars were interviewed by B98.5 radio yesterday and they were on for about an hour. The older children worked on the phone lines while Michelle and Jim Bob talked about their experience with Josie. It was really good. Michelle broke down and started crying at one point when she said they were transferred to Childrens and everyone was working on Josie with the bowel separation. She felt so helpless like she was her mother and she couldn't do anything to help her. I started crying too!!! Anyways, they did report that Josie has doubled her weight now which means she's what 2 lbs 12 oz??

Anonymous said...

Despite the fact that you can buy name brands at thrift stores, the name brands the Duggars are wearing are most definitely product-placement. On it's various shows - TLC blurs out obvious name brands on clothing and other products unless it is product placement. Remember the Juicy Juice close up on JK8? Or the blurred out Ed Hardy T-shirts? The Duggars updated looks are 99% likely to be donated products - not mall shopping or lucky thrift store finds.

Judy said...

re: The name brand clothing -- but if the Duggars wear brand name clothing, ie, Josh wearing Aero I think? -- isn't that going against the idea that you're supposed to draw attention to your face "countenance" rather than what you're wearing? And then I wonder, why are you supposed to draw attention to the person's face if attention to looks isn't supposed to be that important, and if attention to looks isn't that important, than why do you have to scream Nike so much to avoid looking at what isn't important anyway? The whole thing is just very confusing. ;)

Anonymous said...

I think maybe the reason others and I are mentioning that the older kids and especially Josh seem to be wearing more name brand clothing is because it is just recently that they have been doing so.

If they can find those clothes now then they could find them before so why all of a sudden are they into wearing name brand clothing? It just seems it would be something they would consider to be too worldly.

Maybe, like the other family, they are getting free clothing to wear to advertise for the company. The Gosselins wore Gymboree for five years. Maybe Gymboree is now giving to the younger Duggar kids as well.

Anonymous said...

I'm glad to see the Duggars finally getting new clothing (or at least newer styled clothes)- now if only they'd get new shoes. It's been a pet peeve of mine since I saw them load up on all those $1.00 shoes on an earlier show.

It is interesting though, as has been noted, that there is such a vast difference in the clothes the girls wear now. I saw part of an old episode recently and I'd forgotten about those big collared dresses. If they want to dress conservatively, more power to them, but at least they've gotten out of the Little House on The Prairie phase.

Bubbles said...

I know that I personally have never heard a Duggar say they never buy anything new. I've heard them say, "buy used and save the difference." This is a good policy to live by when possible. But you know what saving the difference allows you to do? Use the money for fun stuff once in a while! So maybe Josh *is* buying some new brand name clothes. I don't see a problem with it.

As an aside, I got a Children's Place sweater for my daughter at Goodwill last weekend for $1.99 and a pair of Candies brand shoes for her for $3.99. I also got her several Hanes brand t-shirts (that were sold new at Walmart for $7) for $1.13 each, and they all still had tags. Last summer I got a pair of Calvin Klein plaid shorts for my teenage son for $1.99. You really can get name brand clothes for great prices at thrift stores.

In some ways the brand name clothes are even better deals at thrift stores, because you pay so much less and (sometimes) they're better quality so they last longer. Because of the style of shoe it is, my younger daughter will be able to wear the Candies shoes after my older daughter outgrows them (they're more of a dressy shoe than an everyday shoe, so I don't feel it will cause problems for either of my daughters to wear them). The Duggars may spend $1.99 on a shirt that will last through 3 kids wearing it. The money they save can then be used for other items.

Millie at home said...

Can you imagine what it would cost to buy brand new good quality shoes for 19 kids all at once? I don't have a problem with children wearing used shoes as long as they can be disinfected, etc. For the older girls (and boys) I would think it would be hard to find decent shoes to fit second hand and our shoes tend to change to fit our feet so that is not a good idea. Maybe the older kids get new shoes.

Mandy said...

I've been noticing that in that last year or so a lot of the older kids seem to be wearing clothes from Aeropostale and the like. I'm not sure if it's product placement or simply that the girls discovered the store and realized that they could find shirts there that they like. Josh seems to wear them quite a bit, but they do run sales on t-shirts and their basic clothes aren't too expensive so maybe he still sees it as living frugally. Also, it could be that there are thrift stores that are ending up with a lot of those shirts for some reason.
I'm also guessing that the older kids are buying some clothes brand new clothes for themselves. The girls make money from babysitting so it wouldn't surprise me at all if they're buying a lot of their own stuff. Jana had a nice looking pair of sunglasses the day they were leaving for El Salvador. And maybe Jim Bob gives them money to spend on whatever they want since they're getting money from the show.

But who knows? Maybe it is product placement.

Anonymous said...

About 2 years ago they put an outlet Aeropostle store in Branson which is about 2 hours from their house. I know they go to Branson because that is where they went to Silver Dollar City with the Bates and to the Dixie Stampede. Anyways, this store has awesome deals. The clothes are new but they are outlet. The didn't pass final inspection for the retail stores for some reason. Usually you can't even tell what's wrong with them. I buy jeans in there for $8 to $10 and shirts for $2-$10 depending on what it is. I also shop at resale shops and thrift stores where I find name brands all the time. Its also possible that someone is handing those clothes down to them. I always give my kids clothes away to someone with multiple children. Its an Arkansas neighborly thing. If these girls don't shop at the mall don't watch TV or shop on the internet its quite possible that they don't even KNOW these are designer clothes. They may just say wow these Aeropostle shirts sure do hold up well. I think since they aren't exposed to retail marketing this is probably the case. They don't go to school and get exposed to it either.

Leslie said...

I'm willing to bet that the Aeropostale clothes are a product placement. Never really paid much attention to the fact that the girls were weaing their clothes, but I swear I haven't seen a single shot of Josh in the past season or two when he wasn't wearing a shirt with their name plastered all over it!

Bubbles said...

I have a question: Has it ever been established for sure how the Duggars are being paid? I understand that the Gosselins got paid as a "unit" but I don't see how they could do that with the Duggars because Josh, Anna, John David, Jana and Jill are all 18 or older. It seems that legally they'd have to have separate contracts for each adult. I'm curious how that works.

Anonymous said...

I dont think the name brand is a big deal. I am sure they get them cheap or donated.

but whats with all the iphones and other expensive stuff. Instead, of buying new shoes, carseats etc.

MO4 said...

it is obvious product placement.If not they would have to blurr the name.Thats the way it works.They do not buy these clothes and think they are a good price.They are given to them for free for advertising.

Anonymous said...

That is what I always thought too, that if they weren't being advertised the name would be blurred out.

If this was something that wasn't new it wouldn't be a big deal, well it isn't anyway, but they never used to wear brand name clothing before, whether it was bought at the thrift store or not.

People keep saying they read so and so in their book. I don't know how old their book is but it is quite possible they have made changes since writing their book. It sure seems like they have and the clothing is one of those things.

SteelMagnolia said...

A few comments regarding this episode, which I TIVO'd and am now watching:

1) Putting the Duggars into unusual situations like this (i.e., flying on tiny little planes) is getting quite old, as are the comments about life insurance and instructions to the "little woman" that she should take care of the kid(s) should anything happen.

2) I want to knock Josh Duggar over the head for not helping his wife to load up their car for the trip.

3) The "School of the Kitchen Table" is (obviously) not working, as it was like someone moving fingernails across a blackboard to me when Josh said (re: the Duggar tendancy for motion sickness), "I have DROVE numerous cars ..." (Not, "I have DRIVEN numerous cars".)

4) And finally - Yes, Anna's bone structure is quite lovely and she seems like a very sweet person.

SteelMagnolia said...

And another darn thing ...

When Josh and Anna are entering the Church for Sunday services, Josh proceeds up the steps and Anna follows behind carrying the baby. It seems to me that Josh would have walked WITH Anna and either supported her with a hand on her back or elbow, or that HE would have carried the baby up the stairs.

Makes more sense to me for a man not so self-absorbed.

Keri said...

Can you imagine what it would cost to buy brand new good quality shoes for 19 kids all at once?


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Perhaps one should ponder those thoughts when recklessly procreating. I know it just cost me 184.00 at the NIKE outlet to buy 6 pairs of shoes(one for each member of my family, including myself and my husband).

If you are going to have a litter of children perhaps providing QUALITY, not name brand necessarily, but QUALITY shoes should be a consideration.

Our feet are supposed to be taken care of. I make sure my children are in quality, good fitting shoes at all times. And it costs money to do so. That is why we had FOUR, not FOURTEEN(or 19 or 20 or 21.... children.)

Anonymous said...

Did you notice how didnt offer to hold her during the flight? Its hard to hold them the whole time.

man up, josh

Anonymous said...

Why would they have to buy brand new shoes all at the same time anyway? The older kids wouldn't need shoes as often as the younger ones either.

Mandy said...

I want to knock Josh Duggar over the head for not helping his wife to load up their car for the trip.

I don't think Josh even knew that Anna was loading up the car. I'm guessing that he was running late (like always) and Anna wanted to make sure that they didn't miss their flight so she loaded up the car to save time. I remember Josh asking her "You already loaded up the car?" and he seemed surprised.

snowy days said...

It bugs me to have Josh and Anna featured in so many episodes. I would have much rather seen more time spent on the older girls in the family--- an episode for each maybe. She seems sweet, but is so very average and boring.

My guess is that there is only so much diaper changing, cleaning, and cooking that can be shown. If the older Duggar girls actually ever did anything interesting, maybe they'd have something to film. That is very telling to me.

Elizabeth said...

I am shocked on almost every episode at how ill-behaved the younger children are. There seems to be no boundaries in the house-the kids are jumping off the stairs and furniture and each other. The school age children would benefit from being in a regular classroom where at least there would be some discipline and order. And who is home-schooling these kids now that Michelle is tied up with baby Josie every day? Very sad, in my opinion, that these kids are not being properly educated or disciplined. The older kids seem well-mannered but the ones 10 and younger are awful!

Enough with the Multiples said...

re: Perhaps one should ponder those thoughts when recklessly procreating.

If you are going to have a litter of children perhaps providing QUALITY, not name brand necessarily, but QUALITY shoes should be a consideration.

Our feet are supposed to be taken care of. I make sure my children are in quality, good fitting shoes at all times. And it costs money to do so. That is why we had FOUR, not FOURTEEN(or 19 or 20 or 21.... children.)

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Excellent point! This is one of the main reasons why have a large number of kids like this is unreasonable--you have to be able to provide for them and having worn out used shoes and outdated baby gear that may not meet current safety standards is just a few examples of not properly providing for them.

The more they talk and the more they show, the more I do not think that Jim Bob and Michelle have or use their God given common sense.

Anonymous said...

3) The "School of the Kitchen Table" is (obviously) not working, as it was like someone moving fingernails across a blackboard to me when Josh said (re: the Duggar tendancy for motion sickness), "I have DROVE numerous cars ..." (Not, "I have DRIVEN numerous cars".)


I know PLENTY of people who talk this way and use bad grammar, who went to public school. This can't be blamed on the Duggars' homeschooling.

Anonymous said...

SteelMagnolia said "3) The "School of the Kitchen Table" is (obviously) not working, as it was like someone moving fingernails across a blackboard to me when Josh said (re: the Duggar tendancy for motion sickness), "I have DROVE numerous cars ..." (Not, "I have DRIVEN numerous cars".)"

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This hurt my ears as well. Even my husband, for whom English is a second language, commented that it made Josh sound ignorant.

Judy said...

But isn't wearing brand names the opposite of what they say they try to do? Of course, a lot of what they say seems to be opposite of what they do. . .

Anonymous said...

Yes, Judy, I totally agree. If they had been wearing name brand clothing all along no one would give it a second thought, but they haven't. It has only been recently that they are wearing them. I don't believe they have been in the thrift stores and they are just now discovering them. They may have been in the stores but they certainly were passing them up.

I wouldn't think name brand clothing would fall in line with their definition of modesty. Michelle has said they wear things that draws people's attentiong to their faces not their clothes.

Anonymous said...

The younger kids do seem more wilder than the older ones were when they were young. That could be a good thing.

The family seems to have thrown the old Duggar Family Rules out the window. Remember, Never raise a voice to yell? Never raise a toy to throw? Jennifer got Jackson good with that toy truck. LOL But she is still little.

I think they are typical kids who actually behave a lot better than most kids in public. They just get too silly at home sometimes.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

They have NEVER said they do not wear brand names. They said they buy used and save the difference. They believe in being modest not showing off shoulders, legs over the knee and back, etc.

Many people who buy brand names do so because they want quality and can get it for the same price if they buy used.

I live in a very high class area and there is a Goodwill just two blocks from me. I just bought some baby clothes with names of GAP, Carter and Osh Gosh. Are those name brand?

MBA from Public University said...

Anon: "I know PLENTY of people who talk this way and use bad grammar, who went to public school."

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Please don't slam public school education. Poor grammar has nothing to do with "where" you went to school, public or private.

At what point do we start making the Duggars responsible for their own grammar?

Celestie said...

I know PLENTY of people who talk this way and use bad grammar, who went to public school. This can't be blamed on the Duggars' homeschooling.

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However, many insist they are getting a good education. I am doubtful that any of these "kitchen table graduates" could garner SAT score that would ensure college placement. (Well, maybe one of those Christian college, where knowledge is not important.) I have never head one of them use an adverb. It is the lost part of speech in Duggarland.

Whitney said...

But isn't wearing brand names the opposite of what they say they try to do? Of course, a lot of what they say seems to be opposite of what they do. . .

When they started the show I used to feel bad for them and thought that the tv crew was taking advantage of this nice honest family. Now I'm beginning to think that they like the way that they are being portrayed. My biggest problem though is with JB and Josh

Josh strikes me as a camera hog. He talked like America is hanging onto his every word.

JB is just a big a camera hog, and he seems to think that we all look up to him because of how much kids he has. However, from what I've seen it looks like that's all he has to offer.

Anonymous said...

"They have NEVER said they do not wear brand names. They said they buy used and save the difference."

The issue is they never used to wear them, it wasn't until recently that they started wearing them. It wasn't very long ago that the girls were still wearing the prairie dresses. I guess people are just wondering why all of a sudden they have decided to start wearing them. It seems it is all you really see Josh wearing.

It could be that Josh is tired of the thrift store clothes and now that he is on his own has decided to shop for new name brand clothing. To which I say, good for you Josh.

Anonymous said...

I think it's difficult for some of us to accept that this is a family with a strong working class background. College simply doesn't factor into the equation the way it does for some of us. Also, it helps to remember that the Duggars seem to value family above everything else and children who choose the path of courtship have to get married before they can experience any form of intimacy. Since the men are taught to be the leaders and primary or sole providers for their families --- I can see why they wouldn't want to toil away in school, but would choose to establish themselves financially instead. Of course not having a college degree makes it more difficult to be financially successful, but they don't seem to be deterred by that.

Judy said...

They have NEVER said they do not wear brand names. They said they buy used and save the difference. They believe in being modest not showing off shoulders, legs over the knee and back, etc.

But they've said how important it is not to focus on the clothing, that you should be drawn to the person's face. "countenance" and that is why they dress the way they do. How can they be dressed to focus on the face when they wear brand name clothing designed to to make you focus on the brand name?

roddma said...

I dint think it was safe to be sliding on the stairs either. Other posters are correct when they mention about discipline slipping somewhat. It looked chaotic before Anna and josh left? I thought poor Anna. I dont think any of these kids have friends other than ones who share their own beliefs. Even on the "Double Date" episode Anna and Josh went with Amy and her boyfriend. Anna would benefit from a night out with the girls or just Amy but I guess that wont happen any time soon.

Buck said...

We need to keep in mind that these programs are HIGHLY edited, scenes are re-shot, and they can hardly be called "reality" television.

One scene of Josh-doing-this or Anna-doing-that can hardly be representative of what their lives are really like.

Reality TV?
Barely.