August 13, 2012, 9:30 PM, Papa Bill's Farm

The Bates head to the farm! Gil and Kelly Jo load up the family bus and head to see Gil's parents. We'll meet Papa Bill and Mama Jane and see what they think of having 19 grandchildren!


The family heads to see Gil's parents; meet Papa Bill and Mama Jane.

30 minutes

41 comments:

Alberta Rose said...

Dramedy: A 30 minute show that combines drama and comedy. Suffice it to say there won't be pausing the recording after each segment to discuss how we can apply what the Bates are doing to our day to day lives the way I do while watching 19 Kids & Counting. It's going to be treated as some nice summer fluff that portrays many of the values we believe in.

Nikki said...

Sounds titillating.

Rudy Tecat said...

Hey, that's an idea! Why haven't the Duggars ever visited a farm? I wonder if the Bates Family will get to ride a train?

Seriously? said...

Sure to be every bit as riveting as all other things Duggar/Bates/Gothard.

londonbridges said...

Hopefully the farm will contain a petting zoo. The sister-mommies can help their younger sibs pet some real live animals. Because the bio parents of these blessings will be too busy with their PDAs, and encouraging the viewers with their knowledge and wisdom. JMHO as always.

Happy Civic holiday to my fellow Canadians!

Sharla said...

Dear Mrs. B, no not anyone with a large family is open for discussion. Only those families who choose to pimp their children's lives on TV for money and fame. People who choose to expose their lives on TV are basically asking for comment. If they wanted their lives to remain private, they could easily have done that.

Seriously? said...

And speaking of all the on-camera PDA's, I, for one, don't believe for a second these are genuine, but, rather, are part of the Duggar/Bates BRAND created by TLC.

TLC aims very, very low when trying to capture the ever-so-happy-and-perfect Christian family demographic.

At least the Disney channel is honest enough to make its caricatures animated cartoons. From TLC, we get the cartoonish Duggars and Bates.

Stephanie said...

Oh my

When grandma said "Its tough" grampa ELBOWED her. LOL

This might be more fun than I thought. Grandpa is playing by the rules I guess he is tired of seeing his son live below the poverty line.

Stephanie said...

At least the girls had the little kids bring their own clothes for them to pack. I never see the Duggars help with packing ever.

Stephanie said...

I already love Grandma Jane. She honestly admits on camera that they totally get on her nerves because their are too many.

Jimbob and Michelle think its so cute that they have a brood of kids. So far the Bates kids seem a little calmer. I think the Duggers have ADHD

Rainbow68 said...

I really enjoyed the Bates shows. They seem very loving and sweet, with the exception of Papa Bill and Mama Jane. They are DREADFUL. Every word they said while being interviewed was a gripe about how burdensome it was to have the family over. They seem to be a "Get off my lawn" type of couple. Yick!

Stephanie said...

I guess the girls can't play football. And Gils boys will never be on the high school wrestling team. Just like Michelle.

Grandma said "Hallaluh" and Grandpa elbowed her AGAIN. Doesn't Mama Jane know you have to act fake fake fake for thes Christian reality shows?

It takes 2 days to clean up after they leave? Didn't Michelle say when the Bates visited the house was cleaner when the Bates were there.

I am sorry but I am going to say it again, they are liars. Just like Jimbob in the Habitat for humanity interview saying Michelle and Josie didn't come. That was a lie they were in Isreal.


Goodie said...

I enjoyed the Bates show, too. It was good to see some loving interaction between mother and child, unlike the Duggars. I liked that they also hug each other normally.

Stephanie said...

My dear friend Rainbow I must respectfully disagree.

I am glad Mama Jane was honest enough to admit how difficult it is to have 21 extra people in her home that looked prestine. And she must have kept the camera crews out also along with the family, that's an extra 4 people tromping through her house. We didn't even see the inside of the house except the foyer.
I actually didn't like grampa elbowing her to shut up because the cameras were on her. Let her say what she wants. Her son is weird and has 19 children and if she thinks that she should have the right to say it.

Did Zach even speak a word?

sandi said...

Enjoyed the shows tlc...thanks much! It was nice to see something other than the Duggar kids moping around,esp. the older ones.The Bates kids seem so much happier.They are all a natural to the camera as well. :)
I had to laugh when Bill was elbowing Jane..when they left,and when they were sitting down as well.When he was talking,it looked like he was trying to say "hey...don't say too much!"
I enjoyed their candidness as well.They made no bones about how hard it was to have so many kids around,even though they love them.Keep up the good work here. :)

Nancy said...

Grandma said "Hallaluh" and Grandpa elbowed her AGAIN. Doesn't Mama Jane know you have to act fake fake fake for thes Christian reality shows?

It takes 2 days to clean up after they leave? Didn't Michelle say when the Bates visited the house was cleaner when the Bates were there.

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Good catch, Stephanie! I think I know whose word to believe, especially given what a mess those kids made in the creek. I really don't think Grandma Jane let them wash those filthy clothes in her one washer/dryer, meaning the Bateses had to carry that crud home with them, or find a laundromat on the way back to TN.

I loved that the grandparents, like Jim Bob's father, were candid about the choices of their adult children, yet they still love them. I can't say the same if any Bates or Duggar child chooses a lifestyle different than their parents'.

Gil really needs to stop playing football. Each visit to the ER for an injury is a burden on the taxpayers, as he was so happy to point out in the Nightline special.

Erin gets on my last nerve. My husband called her a "blond Loretta Lynn, c. 1970." At least Tori still has some spunk.

Stephanie said...

I want to see a day of Erin at her college. I wouldn't let 10 children crawl in mud. They didn't show Kelly aka Kelly Jo clean that up. Honestly I guess they hosed them down with the outdoor waterhose. They would have had to.

Still pondering Michelles comments about after the Bates visit their house is cleaner. Maybe so, have you seen the Duggar kids black feet?

ImaFan said...

I will never understand why these people refuse to let their kids participate in the same things they participated in as young teenagers and young adults. I am talking about organized sports in high school and college. I am so irritated by this. I just can't imagine telling my kids you can watch Tim Tebow play football, but we would never allow you to actually play on a team outside of a pick up game amongst family. I don't get it!

tulip said...

Honestly, I have to agree, this was pretty entertaining. I wouldn't call Papa and Mama dreadful though. I liked the fact they were so candid-the honesty itself added entertainment value. Alot of times, the older generation just will jump right in and speak their mind, without feeling any need to sugarcoat (or in this case, fear of Gothard retribution on their family members.)

I figured I'd probably find the Bates kids more entertaining then the Duggars, and I was right. I could even stand watching Erin more than Jana. Zach didn't seem to overly involve himself, but this is a welcome change from having to watch Josh's huge head having to be a part of everything. Overall, this group just seems to have more not faked/not forced energy and fun.

Nancy said...

Still pondering Michelles comments about after the Bates visit their house is cleaner. Maybe so, have you seen the Duggar kids black feet?

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Maybe Michelle is referring to the boys' room, where the Bateses are housed when they stay with the Duggars? Really, all that would entail is putting sheets on the beds for crying out loud.

I didn't think about hosing the kids down; I knew there was no way Mama Jean was going to let them wash all those muddy clothes in what is certainly her one washing machine. I just figured they threw everything into a gigantic plastic bag and washed it when they got back to Tennessee.

Bate and Switch said...

I got a big kick out of Mama Jane. It was so nice to have someone speak so candidly about what it must really be like to have all of those kids in the house (no big bus to sleep in like the Duggars til they get their TLC money) I guess even though Bill and Jane aren't Gothardites there is still that male dominance with Papa Bill elbowing her all the time lol!! I was so appalled to see the kids getting messy in the creek. Even though they probably follow the "buy used save the difference" creed it still must be horribly expensive to buy clothes and I can't imagine the mud coming out so easily. One of the girls had a white skirt on and not the typical denim skirts that I imagine are about as casual as the girls are allowed to get. Guess they should have brought their wholesome wear or something.

Patrice said...

I thought it was a kind of fun show too. And yes, it was good that Grandma and Grandpa did express their true opinions. If they sat with fake smiles and said "Oh, we just LOVE it when all 21 come for 3 days!" we would be able to see right through that and it would be no better than the Duggar fake statements and smiles. I cannot imagine having over 20 houseguests over three days. Once your kids are grown up you get used to having the house neat and clean and being able to put out your good knickknacks and breakables etc. It would be rough having a huge crowd coming through with the potential to destroy everything. And as grandpa said, the refrigerator gets opened 3000 times a day and he was annoyed by that. I would be too. Good to see honesty after all the Duggar fakery.

Cadence said...

About the clean/dirty house thing...
It probably is true when the Duggars say the house is cleaner when the Bates are there. I remember one of the Bates kids saying that Grandma Jane doesn't like people cooking in her kitchen. So, she is probable not the type to let the kids clean her house. This is why it takes her 2 days to clean up the mess they made, rather than the Duggars who let everyone help clean up.

tulip said...

Surprising Josh didn't post a pic of the fam watching United Bates of America, especially after Jim Bob & Michelle stood in front of their door and encouraged everybody to watch. They always bring everyone together to watch the premiers of their show, even Cousin Amy (though probably only because she likes watching herself). Instead Josh posted a pic of Michael playing with his iphone, and Anna posted a funny (not) of silencing your iphone before heading to bed. Oh well, sorry Bates-so much for "dear friends".

Rainbow68 said...

I have to disagree. I can understand slipping up and saying that the house is a mess when the kids leave, but this was pretty much EVERY time they were on camera there was a snide remark. I can appreciate someone being "honest" or "candid", but as a mom I don't get this couple at all. To me, it was simply being disloyal. There is nothing my kids could do that would make me throw them under the bus in front of the whole nation.

beef said...

"I actually didn't like grampa elbowing her to shut up because the cameras were on her. Let her say what she wants. Her son is weird and has 19 children and if she thinks that she should have the right to say it."

Amen! I love it.

Nancy said...

I don't understand how being honest about the family being too much for an older couple to handle as "throwing their child under the bus." If anything, watch out for what Gil says about his parents after they're gone.

JL Duggar was equally as honest about his views regarding his son's lifestyle and while it appeared Jim Bob loved him while he was alive, both Michelle and Jim Bob have given speeches, scripted to the tee, that throw JL Duggar under that proverbial bus. Apparently, he wasn't "godly" enough for them and a horrible father. For these people who come off as so sweet and "godly," they can sure turn on their own flesh and blood when it suits their purposes.

I expect nothing less from Gil Bates once his parents pass away. The Gothard crowd are conditioned to believe it's their way or the highway, family be damned as we saw in the case of the Duggars.

tulip said...

Well, who knows how TLC edited everything, it's TV-the producers were probably giddy over the snide remarks, one right after another, and if Jane was more then willing to keep dishing them out, they took it for all it was worth.

As far as the mess goes, the Duggars are used to messes in the first place, so just having the Bates make their beds and load all their dirty laundry into big, black garbage bags to pile on their own trailer to take home was considered 'cleaning up'. The close-up shots of the Duggar's place (and there have been a lot more of them lately) show layers of dust, dried liquid/food spots, crumbs, dust bunnies, and dirty feet. Normal? Yes. Only problem is I haven't heard the Duggars admit this yet, as they continue to talk about chore packs, while no kids are seen wearing them (like in the old days.)

Patrice said...

There is defintely a big difference between MOST PEOPLE (the Duggars' and Bateses' favorite expression) going to see the grandparents for a day or two with maybe two or three kids, and a clan of 21 piling in. I always felt a little uneasy taking my five to stay at someone's house, which is why we usually stayed in motels. Taking 19 is definitely going to strain the relationship.
The grandparents probably did not mean to sound snide but maybe they had just looked in their house and went out to sit on the swing because the mess inside was overwhelming. And then the cameraman showed up with his questions. I bet just about anyone would sound the same at that point. Gil and Kelly , just like their counterparts the Duggars, seem to think they are entitled to land anywhere they want, and are somehow gracing everyone else with their presence. MOST parents probably realize they are burdening someone, and try to make accomodations to keep it under control. Telling the kids not to open the frig all day and night would be an example of this.

Elspeth said...

Not much - some behind the scenes photos.

http://bumpinalongtheroadlesstraveled.blogspot.ca/

Michigander1969 said...

I have to say that the Bateses have beautiful children. That Callie is SO adorable!

Love the grandparents!!!!!

imaamy said...

I was not familiar with the family who named their kids SweetPea and Butterfly....thanks for posting the link.

Miggy said...

I believe Gothard/ATI/IBLP teaches that hospitality is really important. You must always be ready to open your home to others. Duggars & Bates have taken this lesson to heart and seem very willing to open their homes to others. I think they may also have come to expect others to open their homes to them, without ever stopping to think about the other family feel. This might be ok with other ATI families but it does not mean their parents feel the same way.

Nancy said...

Ouch...the ratings were nothing short of dismal. Neither got anything close to 1MM viewers.

The link is too long, but here are the numbers:

United Bates of America (9pm) 846,000 viewers, 0.3 A18-49

United Bates of America (9:30p) 721,000 viewers, 0.2 A18-49

sandi said...

I hope tlc will hang in there with this one.I really think the Bates have the potential to outshine the Duggars by far.Perhaps it's just a matter of time. :)

londonbridges said...

I agree that if the Gothard way is to open your home to visitors, it doesn't automatically follow that the rest of us choose to do so. I have lived away from my family for many years, and therefore had many of them visit. Twelve people at once was just too much for me. One bathroom, not enough room for mealtimes, etc. I managed, but it was a relief to bid farewell. However, the only extra laundry and cleaning I had were towels they used. Not bad at that, but still not something I enjoyed. Just because the Duggars and Bateses enjoy visitors doesn't mean we all do. JMHO.

mom in texas said...

I absolutely loved Papa Bill and Grandma Jane. They remind me of how my grandparents are. They love all their grandkids but don't want you there messing up and crowding their space. I thought it was comical how they made mention to everything the kids did however, I found it telling especially since the Bates pride themselves on how well mannered their kids are and how they do all the work when visiting without even being asked. Papa and Grandma said the kids make a mess and break things, typical of grandkids but not of Bates kids, let Kelly and Gil tell it.

summer11 said...

I was so surprised, but I actually enjoyed the show.

I like that they are singing for the intro instead of another "I'm Kelly Jo and this is my WONDERFUL husband Gil."

I, too, found Gil's mother to be a little abrasive but it was nice to see that someone close to them has a very different opinion about life and lifestyle than they do.

I LOVED that Kelly (Jo) was the one who seemed to be in charge of the children. In the Duggar household, it's always Jim Bob telling everyone to get downstairs and that today is a special day. The Bateses just seem soooo much more real and down to earth (as much as that is possible). I also saw a lot more real love from that family than the Duggars. It was cute to see them do their little interviews in groups and how Gil and Kelly held hands the entire time they were being interviewed. It seems like all of their children pitch in with the housework and are treated somewhat equally-- they actually hugged each other! And I don't think I heard any mention of how the boys are constantly tempted by lust over girls (potentially sisters)... Amazing!

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but Kelly and Gil didn't kiss once for the camera, did they?

And.. how would Erin know that people stereotype blondes??

Rainbow68 said...

And I was interested when Kelly mentioned that one of her boys was like Eeyore. As a mom whose kids LOVED "Winnie the Pooh" when they were little, I hope this means that they don't censor shows as much as the Duggars.

tulip said...

Maybe the ratings will pick up as the season goes on-at this point, I wouldn't mind seeing the Bates. There needs to be some other shows that are on despite the fact they may not get a million viewers. TLC will probably keep the Duggars, just like J&K/Kate+8, long after they would have given other shows the pink slip. I compare the Duggars & Bates to J&K+8 & Quints by Surprise-similar families/show, but if the ratings on the "smaller" shows are not all that, TLC won't waste any time giving them the boot, even though they're better or more fun to watch.

It does seem like the Bates don't have quite as much Gothard tunnel vision as the Duggars. Wiinie the Pooh is a classic, but Anna posts Josh reading to the kids "Character Tales" (aka "Planting seeds of character")..character..Gothard-yes, we picked up on it. ugh.

Seriously? said...

"Gothard/ATI/IBLP teaches that hospitality is really important. You must always be ready to open your home to others."

Yes, I'm sure that, though they'd UNDOUBTEDLY be bored out of their ever-loving minds, wealthy, WELL EDUCATED people would be oh-so-welcomed into the Duggar home. You know .... the types who can think and speak beyond the superficial Duggar platitudes.

And tattooed people would surely get a warm Duggar welcome into Duggarville.

Multi-colored-hair individuals: Welcome!

Gays and lesbians: come right in and join us for dinner.

Democrats.

Even (gasp!) LIBERALS.

Yeah, sure, the welcome mat is out for all at the home of Gothard/Duggar.

Uh huh.