August 13, 2012,9:00 PM Bates Episode One Love Times 21

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Gil and Kelly Jo just welcomed their 19th child into the world, but some complications send little Jeb back to the NICU. Back home, the rest of family pulls together to create a special homecoming as they plan to celebrate Valentine's Day Bate's Style.


Gil and Kelly Jo welcome baby number 19; celebrating Valentine's Day Bates' style.

30 minutes

26 comments:

Alysa said...

The one thing that I like about the Bates' is that they seem to be less strict on "buying used and saving the difference". I know that might sound stuck up, but I really enjoyed seeing them celebrating Valentines day in a not-cheap way.

ImaFan said...

I just don't understand why in Duggar/Bates World it seems like Valentine's Day is the day that money is spent on one another. I understand that they focus Christmas mostly on CHRIST, but nonetheless it's the one holiday that is a marketing ploy to buy stuff for each other that they focus on. I used to be all about Valentine's Day, now I couldn't care less if my husband remembers. I do cute stuff for the kids but thats about it. I'm just wondering here why such a fuss over such a non-holiday? JMO

Alberta Rose said...

you don't have to say to your kids "Some people believe this, we believe this" like you do with Christmas and Easter.

Rudy Tecat said...

Are the kids allowed to pass out Valentine's Day cards to people outside their family? I mean, they can't date, they can't hold hands until they are married...what is allowed?

Patrice said...

My guess would be that they can only give gifts to their siblings, and then watch their parents' ongoing PDA, just like the Duggars. What fun for them!

Stephanie said...

They "had the time of their life" "I just cry thinking about it"

Giving each other dollar store gifts? What? Why is this on tv?

Stephanie said...

Kelly Jo "we wear skirts because its pleasing to the Lord". How stupid

ImaFan said...

"Every Baby comes out a little blue." What?! If they are blue there is a problem! Pink is what you are looking for not blue! These people have 19 kids, in what world is a blue child okay? I know that feet and hands can be a little blue but that kid was like Violet on Willy Wonka! JMO

Stephanie said...

Zach Bates 23 years old singing "this little light of mine" with 18 other children. No wonder he sweated bullets when talking to a girl.

Any bets on how long it will take before Gil gets free Veneers on his teeth?

tulip said...

"Skirts are pleasing to the Lord"- must be straight from the Gothard handbook, and we've heard it repeated over & over from Michelle, Duggar girls, Anna, etc. Jeb was definitely a frightening purple color. I feel bad for Zach, and hope he finds someone soon since it's the only way he'll be able to have a life of his own. I'll watch Zach any day over Josh.

Bate and Switch said...

I thought it was nice to see the parents serving the kids at the special V-day dinner. I don't think you'd see that at the Duggars house. Poor Michaella still got stuck holding a baby though. The meal itself was probably pretty cheap since pasta isn't all that expensive but the table looked nice and it was sweet seeing them pick out gifts for each other. I'm surprised they said Erin didn't cook very well (or at all) isn't that a pretty major requirement of a wife in the Gothard circle (along with popping out babies and staying home etc...)?

Patrice said...

I couldn't believe how long they let Kelly hold that baby before taking him to NICU. Seems when he was purple and not crying he should have been rushed there right away.

tulip said...

The honesty so far from the Bates have shown they can hold their own (no Duggar advertising needed.) Admitting Erin is not good at cooking-great! Better then Michelle faking that all the girls are learning to cook and doing a good job (while Joy, who had supposedly been cooking for a few years now, made cookies in cupcake pans and burned a whole batch because she "forgot" she was using the convection oven.)

The parents serving the kids-this would not be happening over at the Duggars. Jim Bob & Michelle have taught the kids their relationship is first and foremost, and therefore the kids are always catering to them in one way or another. When I first saw the preview, I thought the Valentine's Day dinner was over the top. I guess I was thinking Duggar logic-Josh & Anna and Jim Bob & Michelle sitting in the living room exchanging gifts and PDA while the rest of the family watched on and were expected to giggle and cheer. Surprisingly, I admit, the Bates tradition is kind of cute.

mom in texas said...

Finally got a chance to watch the Bates new show. Part of me wants to scream "Duggars 2.0". The episode mirrored several Duggar epsiodes, crying in ICU, marching the kids through the hospital, over grown children singing with young children, etc. Alyssa is the Jill of the bunch, Michaela, the Jana, Tori is Jinger. It's like the families mesh together so much I didn't have to pay close attention to know what was going on.

Though there were a few things I did find refreshing. Erin being called a "not so smart blonde" by her sister was cute because it is something sisters would do to one another. Not meant to be mean but humorous and it was okay and not frowned upon. I actually didn't hate the Valentine's Day celebration. I think its nice for Bates to share the day with one another so that children can know it's not just for lovers.

I debated whether or not I would watch another episode. Maybe I will to judge if it will be any different than what we have already seen.

Alberta Rose said...

I'm surprised they said Erin didn't cook very well (or at all) isn't that a pretty major requirement of a wife in the Gothard circle (along with popping out babies and staying home etc...)?

No. That's just Mainstream Societal spin doctoring to make Gothard seem evil. There are secular people who think women should cook, pop out babies but don't think they should stay home, they should help earn the bacon to feed the little piglets (and if I wasn't Christian I would hit every guy who says that instead of praying for him to have a better attitude).

Patrice said...

Very few families can afford to live on one income these days, no matter how much one or the other person would like to stay home. Not only that but most women take pride in their careers and the fact that they do contribute financially even while raising families. To imply that a woman's place is only in the home is an injustice and insult to women everywhere.

Beth Anne said...

Re:
"No. That's just Mainstream Societal spin doctoring to make Gothard seem evil."

I'm going to disagree with this statement, because I do not feel there's any mainstream spinning going on. There has been much first-hand testimony by former and current Gothard followers about his "rules," and there IS an expectation that the wives in the Gothard circle pop out babies and stay home and cook and clean (until the daughters can do the latter part of these duties). Any Gothard/ATI literature says the same thing. Just because some secular men expect this from their wives, as well, does NOT negate the fact that Gothard advocates a very specific model of matrimony and wifely duties.

Betty said...

Gothard doesn't need anyone to make him look bad. He does it all by himself. Anyone who has objectively read his literature knows that he is not a good Christian role model. He is not new covenant, imposes a man-made rules theology, and makes up his own revelations as he goes along. In other words, he is pretty much everything a Christian leader should not be.

sandi said...

Yes,poor Jeb was a blue as a blueberry,and I kept waiting for the ob/gyn to speak up.He should have been suctioned and stimulated right away to see if he pinked up.Blue hands, nails and feet are normal for a day or two,but not that all-over blue color.Plus he wasn't crying.
I felt bad for Kelly when she was crying in the NICU;I know how hard it is to have your hormones all over the map, and have a sick baby to boot at the same time.I'm glad Jeb turned out fine and was able to go home.

Alberta Rose said...

To imply that a woman's place is only in the home is an injustice and insult to women everywhere.

It's also an insult to imply that if a woman chooses to stay home and raise children, there is something wrong with her and the family is being deprieved because they live on one income. That's one of the reasons why I like shows like 19 Kids and United Bates. It helps remind females that they have choices and if they choose to stay at home, there are some people who treat them as valuable, contributing members of society. It's 40 years later and women who don't earn a paycheque are still spoken with disdain.

Patrice said...

Once again, the difference is having the choice that most of us have, or being told by Daddy and Gothard that your only worth is being a baby factory and a "helpmeet" to a husband. I've been a stay at home mom and a work-outside-the- home-mom, both by choice but I don't think the Gothard followers have that choice. I don't think the debate is who is more valuable; that argument went out in the 70's. Having no say in your own future is not good. I think that is what people on here are concerned about. We see the Duggar and Bates girls only looking ahead to a life of housework, not because they want to but because they have been told that is all they are ever going to do. I recently saw a documentary about pop singer Katy Perry. She was also raised in a very religious and overprotective home. She said she didn't know until she was 18 that there were other ways to live; she thought everyone lived like she did. This is my worry about the Duggars and others: they don't know there are other lifestyles to explore. IF they want to be homemakers, fine. But they should know that is not their only choice.

Manda said...

Exactly. It is not a choice unless it is a fully and freely informed choice of all the alternatives.

Beth Anne said...

Re:
"It's also an insult to imply that if a woman chooses to stay home and raise children, there is something wrong with her" and "19 Kids and United Bates...help remind females that they have choices."

The issue, for me and many others, is NOT that a woman chooses to stay home and how wrong that is. I'm a stay-at-home/work-at-home mom! And choice is good! The issue is that shows like "19 Kids and Counting" and United Bates" reveal a mindset that this is the ONLY appropriate and acceptable choice, regardless of where a woman's inherent skills and strengths like. Again, there is countless testimony from Gothard and ATI folk confirming this. THERE IS NO CHOICE for woman who follow Gothard...that's the bottom line. And while the Duggars may be living comfortably, it's more due to their paid appearances on the TV show, which have led to paid speaking engagements, book deals, etc., than because the head of the family (JimBob) made so much money on his own. Again, there is COUNTLESS testimony from ATI/Gothard folk describing the fairly impoverished lifestyles many followers lead, because only the husband can go to work, even if the wife having a part or full-time job would help the family tremendously from a financial perspective.

ImaFan said...

I think it can even be argued these days that Michelle is not a strict Stay and Home Mom. She does speaking arrangements and makes money doing them. She sits there and says that she doesn't work out side the home but we have all seen her do so. I'm not saying this is a choice as in the rest of society's choices, but stop saying one thing when you are truly not the example of it. All this must stop eventually, they are saying and doing the same things again and again, not realizing they have changed because of TLC. JMO

sandi said...

Doing a tv show is work at that..even if it is reality.They still have to arrange and accomodate their lives around it,if they want that paycheck.I nrealize tlc strives to make it seem otherwise,but I really feel Michelle IS a working mother,and as such,had no right to snark on working moms the way she did.It was quite apalling,IMO,in her letter to Jubilee.JMO.

Miggy said...

Michelle speaks at conferences, writes books, recorded an audio book, stars in a reality show and does regular tv appearances on other shows. (She turned up on 'A Current Affair' here in Australia a few years ago.) That is a working mother, in my opinion.

Michelle says she took several of the older girls to the last Vision Forum Conference, where she spoke and attended the cooking classes. (I think the fact she spoke makes it a work trip.) Where were the rest of the kids? I am guessing at home with Grandma. How is that different to any other working mum?