Monday, August 27, 2012, 9:00 PM, 19 in Training

Education comes in many forms for the Bates family. Watch as Kelly Jo teaches some of the younger girls how to cook. And later, can the boys keep up when Gil, a former state champion, teaches them how to wrestle?

30 minutes

18 comments:

Rudy Tecat said...

How about teaching the boys to cook and the girls to wrestle?

Nancy said...

Is it me, or does the term "training" one's children carry a negative connotation that "raising" them doesn't? I think part of it is due to a book called "To Train Up a Child" by Michael Pearl. It endorsed beating children, including infants, because they are filled with rebellion and sin. The Duggars used to endorse the book on their website (proof can be found in the "wayback machine of the internet c. 2006), but they took it down when the contents of the book - including the infamous "blanket training" - became more widely known.

There will be no evidence that the Bateses "correct" (their word) their children by not sparing the rod, but focus on forms of "obedience" that are a huge component in Gothard literature to keep kids in the fold, so to speak.

Patrice said...

Training is definitely a negative term. Any time I hear them use the word training, I think of the horrid "blanket training". Nice way to stifle a kid. I can't believe someone would pick up the Pearl's book and think it was a good idea. These people have no minds of their own at all.

Hannah said...

I never heard the term training in parenting unless it was sleep or potty training.

You teach, not train them to obey, be good people etc...


After, 19 kids how can you not know this?

Seriously? said...

I'd be so much more impressed with "Training" included encouragement to THINK and ACT broadly and independently, but alas, it is just the opposite in Gothard/Bates/Duggar World. Our country needs more than the next generation of these cult-raised automatons.

Nancy said...

I forgot to mention the connotation of training animals. Gil and Kelly hit both of the key notes I was waiting for: training kids = horses and lessons of "obedience."

At least the kids were rewarded with dessert.

I thought the letters from Gil were something done with a sincerity we never see even from Jim Bob toward his kids. Interesting that he started his business 14 years ago, which we learned last week was when they joined up with Gothard (around the time Carlin was born, was the timing, IIRC).

sandi said...

Yes,I did enjoy the letters.It's a great idea,too;my own mom passed and didn't leave me anything like that,so Gil is exactly right,it's a good idea to let them know how you feel about them while you can. :)

Beth said...

I'm watching this episode right now and I have to say, I do like the work with the kids on how to behave when they go out. Compare that to the way the Duggar kids act, and how Michelle just giggles about them bouncing off the walls wherever they are (remember the bridal shop in NYC?) She seems to think everyone finds their antics just adorable!

If I were sitting in a restaurant with my family and saw the Duggar family coming in, I'd ask for the check and leave QUICKLY. If the way the Bates children behaved in this episode is truly the way they would be in public, I wouldn't mind sharing space with them anywhere.

(My first post here, after LOTS of reading. And no, I am not enamored of the whole 'aren't they just too wonderful for words!' train of thought.)

Melissa said...

I think the training that Gil and Kelly Jo do with the kids is a good idea. After watching that, I thought about incorporating that idea with my kids. Also, Gil and Kelly are so much more hands on with their kids, or so it seems. I love the idea of the letters. The show reminds me of how I felt about the Duggars at the very beginning (when they just had the tv specials). I hope the Bates stay as humble as sincere and hopefully only do one or two seasons of a TLC show (just enough to put away some money for them and the kids).

Bates Fan in Canada said...

I didn't get to see this episode. When I taped the 2 episodes that evening, it turned out to be the "emergency" episode in both slots. But we'll see some more Bates training in future episodes.

Nancy said...

Pain.ful.

My husband didn't believe it when I told him that Erin's "school" was a college, and watching her "class" was painful. How many people can bring in their sister/chaperone to perform on school projects? And why don't the seats in the music room at least have those pull-up desk things so the students have a level writing surface on which to write their notes.

All that said, I think it's misdirection and there may be something to the boy talk rumors going around regarding Erin. I guess we find out whether the "special announcement" is good or bad news next week.

Rudy Tecat said...

That had to be one of the longest half hours in television. What a boring show. It is the Duggars without the undercurrent of sex, which makes it just about a bunch of kids. And, I can't stand that Erin, with all that hair piled up. She looks like she should be on My Three Sons.

tulip said...

If there's one good thing that I continue to see with the Bateses, it's that Gil & Kelly are actually hands-on, esp. with the little kids, and I really don't think it's just for the show. Kelly actually looks and sounds like their mother-unlike Michelle who is seen as the talking head after scenes where the older girls have been doing her job, followed by the usual giggling and ever present baby voice.

I'm leaning toward the 'big' announcement being something other than Sarah having dumped Zach. I don't think that would be something they would describe as "a very big announcement". However, it's probably not going to be anything too significant, either. The way TLC is playing up David & Priscilla's wedding as being some major turning point for the Duggar's show how ridiculous they will spin things just to draw in viewers.

Sharla said...

Ratings are in.


0.800 million viewers and 0.361 million adults 18-49 0.3 rating.



Marion said...

I liked this episode, and I am liking the Bates more than the Duggars lately.

I especially liked the training for the younger kids about the correct way to behave in a restaurant. I've been in so many restaurants where the kids are acting like brats and the parents just tune them out. I like the fact that many restaurants are actually banning very young kids these days, ha!

I have to say that Gil and Kelly seem like the real thing, and I think they are very loving parents.

I'm glad Gil and Kelly don't kiss as much as JimBob and Michele, which is such a showing-off type thing that it's gotten old. Grow up, JimBob.

I'm also glad I haven't heard that Kelly's older girls know whether their mom misses her monthly cycle, as Michele once said her girls do. I think it's inappropriate to discuss things like that with older children.

The intimate sexual relationship between a husband and wife should be private. JimBob sounded like a stupid, goofy teenager on the Today show when he said that he and Michele were "having fun trying". How gross for their kids to hear that!

So, all in all, I like the Bates much better than the Duggars lately. We'll see what happens next.

sandi said...


>I'm also glad I haven't heard that Kelly's older girls know whether their mom misses her monthly cycle, as Michele once said her girls do. I think it's inappropriate to discuss things like that with older children.

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me too,but would venture to say Michelle may do this so the kids know when they are not able to come and go from their bedroom,as she says they normallydo,when they want to talk to them.jmo.

Alberta Rose said...

>I'm also glad I haven't heard that Kelly's older girls know whether their mom misses her monthly cycle, as Michele once said her girls do. I think it's inappropriate to discuss things like that with older children.

Once kids get to be of a certain age, they figure out when it's that time of the month for mom, unless mom is one of those sort of women who doesn't have PMS or menstrual symptoms.

londonbridges said...

One positive thing I noticed about the parents is that they actually are hands-on with their blessings. They both are seen with the younger blessings in their arms. Very different from the Duggar bio parents. JMHO