Bringing Up Bates, Season Two (UP)

Births of two babies and another engagement and possibly the wedding.

92 comments:

No Longer Anonymous said...

We may never know for sure if Joseph Duggar was in fact courting one of the Bates girls. I bet Gill would squash any relationship immediately and that he and his family will distance themselves from all of the Duggars.

Carol said...

My jaw actually dropped when I saw this piece. To sum it up - when the Bateses did their big renovation of their home they created a "Patriotic Room" that prominently featured a portrait of Nathan Beford Forrest - the Founder of the KKK!!!! they took it off their website but there are copies attached. Seriously hope we're being punked here. http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/70224233.html

Carol said...

Terrific article on why the Bates family is just as awful as the Duggars. The best is a story in the comments about a woman that Gil Bates tried to lecture to about how she needed to give up birth control. http://defamer.gawker.com/the-bates-family-is-cable-tvs-new-duggars-and-theyre-ju-1706997724

trixie said...

How old is JosEph? Is that why he is going to Crown College?

I remember a few years ago when the Bates were first on the show and one of the older girls was asked if she was interested in the Duggar boys. I think it was Erin and she blushed when she said "maybe a few of the older ones." It obvious she was thinking of ol'Joshie. Bet they are so glad the two families are separated now and Anna stole him away! Maybe Joseph can find refuge with the Bates. They seem more normal to me.

trixie said...

Ok maybe i will take back my previous comment about them being more normal if they had a room with a portrait of the founder of the KKK. I have lived in an area heavily populated with that particular delight. We moved. They can think what they like about birth control, but the KKK is whole other galaxy that i can't visit. I had higher hopes for the Bates...sigh. but i still bet that they are relieved that their kids haven't intermarried!

sandi said...

Kelly later said on her blog they didn't know NBF was the founder of the KKK,and they removed the portrait when they found out.I'm only repeating what she wrote.You can for your own opinion.
She also said recently,that no one else was courting besides Michaela.And that was bf the scandal broke.

Stella said...

Here comes this train down the station.


The Bates Family Is Cable TV's New Duggars and They're Just as Toxic



http://defamer.gawker.com/the-bates-family-is-cable-tvs-new-duggars-and-theyre-ju-1706997724

"It will be interesting to see how or if the Bates family responds to the Duggar allegations in the coming weeks, but for now they’ve stayed silent, no doubt choosing to protect their image and their new, successful show. But even if they do speak out against the Duggars (they won’t), don’t forget they still remain a fundamental part of the ATI / Gothard machine. And no matter how sweet they keep, no matter how nice they seem, there’s still plenty of evidence to suggest that the Bates family’s television ministry plays an active role in the horrifying problem of silence and abuse in fundamentalist families."

Stella said...

The Bates have spoken--

https://ca.celebrity.yahoo.com/news/bates-family-praying-duggars-225235382.html


Following the molestation allegations against Josh Duggar, and advertisers pulling out of TLC's "19 Kids and Counting," the Bates Family are praying for their friends, the Duggar family.

The Bates family, stars of "Bringing Up Bates" on UpTv, issued a statement, when Access Hollywood asked for comment on Wednesday.

"We are praying for our dear friends," the statement from Gil and Kelly Jo Bates read. "We respect their privacy and have no further comment at this time."

On Tuesday, Walgreens became the latest major brand to pull ads from "19 Kids and Counting." Other companies that have also chosen to not have their spots run during the show include Choice Hotels and Payless.

-- Access Hollywood Staff

Heart in Florida said...

If this family didn't know who the identity of the person was that they were hanging up in their own home, I think their homeschooling curriculum isn't very good. Kelly and Gil area real college graduates.....they should have researched who they were hanging on their wall.

Bobbi said...

So done with anything affiliated with the sick & just wrong Gothard Cult which includes the Bates & the Duggar families. It's too nauseating, mean, demeaning women & horrible.

MayBell said...

Maybe there is such a thing as thinking about something too much. They may have had pictures of Confederate Generals on their walls. The Bates are Southern after all, and some people in this country truly think a lot of the Civil War. I myself have studied it extensively (I am a Yankee--Lol). I would probably choose Lincoln instead to have on my wall, but that is my choice. They might be distant relatives or had read something in some battle that they admired. Stonewall Jackson was called Stonewall for a reason. There are things about General Lee that I admire.

I guess what I am trying to say is that their decor is their business, not ours. Besides, they probably moved the pictures. They have to be getting sick of everything being critiqued.

I also appreciate that they aren't entering the comment arena in the josh thing. I wouldn't sully myself if I were them, either.

Denise an said...

I agree that the Bates' statement re: Josh is the absolute best response that anyone has had, and one that all should have had (ie: Michael Seewald). Praying for them isn't saying you are on their side or defending what they did-it's ambiguous. Stay out of it, that's the right thing to do.

Stella said...

The Bates are probably distancing themselves from this as much as they can. If a stronger statement was made there would be a cloud over their PR Machine for their season two roll out next week. There are PR and crisis management teams spinning working overtime to make sure their brand is secure at least for the Bates family. There star is just rising so they are protective at the moment.

Susie said...

The Bates family is another spin of the Gothard cult. They are up to their eyeballs in Gothard. He is on the board, his daughters are marrying boys schooled in Gothard, they practice all of the harsh ways for women and children. They wear Mother Goose clothes and the boys play and the girls slave in the home. Someone is always pregnant and birthing. They believe in ATI curriculum, etc.

I do not want to watch any more of this insanity.

Give me the Willis family.

Beth Anne said...

I know that Gil is highly entrenched in the Gothard organization and completely understand what a lot of other posters are saying about their cult-like lifestyle and close associations only with like-minded people. But, and I might get reamed out for this, I really, truly think the family's simple, short statement about the Duggars was a true and sincere reflection of their thoughts on the matter. Being part of Gothard, ATI, etc., perhaps the parents were aware of some of the "rumors" floating around about Josh, but my gut instinct says they were blindsided by the scope of the crime, etc.

I may be being naive, but I also feel that there is more sincere respect for each other in this family than what we have ever seen with the Duggars. I think Gil respects Kelly not just as a baby-making machine, but as a person, and that both parents have respected their individual children's actions or decisions that were "one-off" the "standard" path - i.e., Zach and Whitney admitting to kissing before marriage, Alyssa wearing pants AFTER marriage, full front hugs during courtship, etc. Yes, those kids are still on a very narrow path that has been set before them, but I think those kids STILL feel loved and respected by their parents and siblings when they show some independence.

Annabella Goodwin said...

I believe they are just as toxic as the duggers. My eyes have been opened I am awakened.

roddma said...

"I think Gil respects Kelly not just as a baby-making machine, but as a person, and that both parents have respected their individual children's actions or decisions that were "one-off" the "standard" path - i.e."
A daughter wearing pants, front hugs, and going one-off beliefs doesn't fool me.They are still cut from the same cloth.I don't think they respect their kids' decision. None of them have even attempted to depart from the no birth control stance. Zach and Whitney apologized for kissing though they are both adults. Someone mentioned on another forum how Gil's smile never reaches his eyes. He is as big a grifter as Jim Bob.How else can he get a nicer home and expensive honeymoons for their kids?

"Terrific article on why the Bates family is just as awful as the Duggars. The best is a story in the comments about a woman that Gil Bates tried to lecture to about how she needed to give up birth control. http://defamer.gawker.com/the-bates-family-is-cable-tvs-new-duggars-and-theyre-ju-1706997724"
Yea, I'm tired of everyone saying the Bateses are nicer. Hopefully, this will wake them up. I saw that comment, too. What business is it of Gil's if a person has kids or uses birth control? One kid told her he made 60 plates of food everyday.

Helen Crump said...

I believe one of the differences between the Bates family and the Duggar family begins with the fact the Kelly doesn't have the "Michelle issues". She is a more hands on mother and household manager. Of course, one has to delegate household tasks to all of the children, age appropriate of course, but Michelle Duggar is just a lazy incapable and immature woman of almost 50. Also, whether they like it or not, Kelly and Gil STILL have a real college education experience behind them that difference shows between these two couples. The similarities are that the Bates family is also a follower of the Gothard/ATI thing and that is the reason the Duggars "allow" some friendships between their children, (same sex only) friendships; even if they aren't close ones.
I find it a shame that all of these families do not offer their children the opportunity to educate themselves at real colleges and don't offer their daughters any real training for any work, even if before marriage. That experience in itself is invaluable to one's maturity and growth. It is also a healthy thing to "get out of the house" and get to your job every day. It is also, this feeling of empowerment that they deny their daughters...which doesn't have to be a bad thing; yet they make it an ungodly experience...which is where they lose me.

puddin said...

I think they seem more hands on as well and minus the Meechelle and Jboob issues...in some areas, but they are still Got-hard fundies. I have seen enough of the big familys both of them (esp the duggars) and do not want to see anymore ever. Same old same old ..having kids and consignment stores etc...its old news. I refuse to watch anymore fundy cults.

Cedric said...

I'll bet Sarah former girlfriend Zach was courting otherwise has she married Zach, she probably would be pregnant with baby #2. Continuous pregnancy via the Gothard cult is just wrong.

sandi said...

As long as Alyssa pops out a baby every so often and homeschools,I think her family is fine with her wearing sleeveless tops and pants,and showing her knees.If she fails to do either,however,I think the you know what will hit the fan,unless she claims fertility issues in that dept.JMO

Helen Crump said...

Why should Alyssa adhere to homeschooling? That was a decision her parents made about their own children. She and her husband should be free to choose whether or not they send their child/children to a private, or public school OR homeschool themselves. No pressure..that is not Godly IMO to pressure one's adult let alone married children in to continuing your own belief system.

Beth Anne said...

Believe me, I know the Bates family is cut from the same cloth as the Duggars and that Gil is fully on board with Gothard and the entire patriarch family model. He does give me the creeps at times and I absolutely agree that their family structure is restrictive.

I guess what I see, however, is a little more innate intelligence with the parents, particularly Kelly, than their Duggar counterparts, JimBob and Michelle. Like, Kelly has talked about things her kids have experienced and having to tweak certain expectations, etc., because of reality. She seems more attuned to her kids than Michelle is to hers.

Not that this makes much of a difference. Like, Jill Duggar followed the pre-determined game plan/righteous living path her parents laid out 99.9% of the time, whereas Alyssa was maybe 92% of the time. It's pretty much the same, but I still feel there's just a tiny, tiny bit of wiggle room for the Bates kids.

June Bug said...

There's no doubt in my mind that Kelly and Gil are much more hands-on parents than their friends JB and Michelle. In more than one episode of the first season on UP channel when Gil and Kelly were away and the kids were left in charge, they comment over and over how much smoother things run with Mom at home. Kelly carries a lot more responsibility around the house than Michelle ever will. I don't think it's all just for camera with Kelly, that woman could run a corporation the way she shouts orders. I know the Bates family have said the kids have chores but I don't think they have as much responsibility dumped on them as the Duggar kids do.

Yes I know everyone says they're cut from the same cloth Gothard, ATI etc. but I still think they're different than the Duggers. I think Gill has a lot of respect for Kelly and Kelly for Gil. They let their older children make their own choices. Their life didn't fall apart when Zack and Whitney kissed before marriage. Michaela was texting Brandon on one episode, Gill was teasing her about being distracted, and I couldn't help but think about Jessa and Jill having to group text their boyfriends, which at their age was ridiculous. Alyssa has shown them she's doing things a little different. The older kids get jobs, go to college, even if it's not a great college it's college and more than the Duggar kids get to do. Gil can be a little obnoxious sometimes but I can tolerate him alot better than I can Jim Bob and his stupid kissing, sex, and baby comments. So far Gil has been alot more modest in that department.

I may feel differently later about this family, but so far they just seem more normal than the Duggers to me. I have thought from the beginning there was just something off with the Duggar family, the kids seem so robotic, cold, just odd. I thought it was because they were nervous on camera, or maybe they really didn't want to do the show. I wouldn't want to have a camera stuck in my face when I was
growing up. The Bates kids seem genuinely happy and content with each other. Oh well we'll see how it goes. But I certainly hope they don't play matchmaking with the Duggars, and maybe that wont even be an option now I've always feared this would happen, especially with Joe going to college in Tennessee I still wonder if he's living there with the Bates.

Sharon said...

I know most people have hear the term "Cafeteria Catholics" meaning someone who picks and chooses various aspects to follow and rejects some of them. I think that almost all of us are cafeteria selectors when it comes to religion. The Bates family seems to have selected to follow fewer tenets of Gothardism and to be more liberal in interpreting the ones that they do follow. I think while it's deplorable that they still are involved with the Gothard garbage, they are more intelligent than Jim Bob and Michelle and recognize that there is more in the world to choose from than Gothard and that he is just a man after all. They have shown that they are able to re-evaluate what works for them and what doesn't.

Pete Gordon said...

My problem with the Bringing up Bates TV show (and 19Kids, too) is that their "religion" is downplayed on the shows, when it really is a big deal in their lives. Those happy Bates, with their strict rules on dating (I mean, courting), homeschooling, helping out at home... that's all well and good, but we know their religious beliefs really are anti-gay (so, then, anti civil rights), anti women (isn't it cute how they can't go out alone, can't have real jobs, have to live at home until they're married, and then have baby after baby until they drop), anti-education, anti Catholic, etc. They really are a very mean, hateful people.

Sharon said...

The Bates kids at least do go out by themselves.

wampascat said...

Girl Bates is pretty high up in the Gothard organization.as a matter of fact, Gothard himself not only was a guest at Erin Bates' wedding, he also celebrated his birthday at her reception with a special cake.
Make no mistake,the Bates family fully subscribe to every belief that the Duggar family does. They are simply remaining quiet now to protect their own money grubbing rear ends.

sandi said...

I just want to remind ppl,that the Bates can be just as dishonest as the Duggars can at times.Bill Gothard's birthday cake got changed to a 'groom's cake' on their blog,once he stepped down due to allegations.How honest is that?

Helen Crump said...

I have never seen the Bates kids allowed go to out by themselves...are you referring to the boys being able to go out and work by themselves? John David and Joseph Duggar are allowed to do that...how is that different with the Bates? I haven't seen an example of that.
Also, make no mistake that the Bates family has NEVER been shy to charitable contributions to THEM...Gil used the ED at hospitals as a physican's office for all of his family and left without ever paying a cent for treatment...that was done routinely on purpose...WE all paid for that in our insurance premiums. TLC built and paid for the additions on their broken down sub standard house...not the Duggars, Jim Bob I'm sure had the idea to let a TV station pay for it; like his own house....he passed on the idea to Gil, his buddy.

Sharon said...

Michaela babysat and Erin worked in a florist shop. Erin began attending college by herself. I think some of the others also went to other places by themselves.

June Bug said...

At least Erin graduated college , Nathan and Tori are still attending college , Alyssa started but quit when she got married, Michaela has mentioned taking classes. Can't remember about any of the others. At least that's a few more books than the Duggar kids ever opened. One other thing I found recently on Kelly's blog that I found interesting was a post she did on homeschooling. She said Tori was attending college and helping here with the younger children's school lessons, she said she and Gil were paying Tori to do this, which creates a part time Job for Tori to save for college. Wonder if the Duggar girls ever got paid to teach thier siblings, not. Kelly also talked about bringing in outside help when she was overwhelmed, or that she wasn't able to sufficiently help the kids in the way that she thought they needed it. This is another way I think Kelly is more involved with her kids is homeschooling, she seems much more hands-on and she is concerned about their education, but then after all she and Gil went to college Michelle and Jim Bob obviously did not.

Willow said...

Alyssa worked in the florist shop. Erin had to have "buddies" when she went to Crown College.

Elspeth said...

Erin didn't have buddies the whole time she went to school and Michaela is going to community college. :)

j-anon said...

The Bateses' political beliefs are the just as toxic as the Duggars', but at least the Bates kids don't look like wild monkeys or isolated robots. I could not imagine Jana saying "if you don't like the food get in the kitchen and cook it yourself," like one of the Bateses. The danger with the Bates family is that they make weird and oppressive Gothard policies look normal, but the Duggars are worse in the way they treat their kids.

HardyHar said...

Didn't one of Erin's younger sisters have to go and attend classes with her? You know, just in case there was someone with purple hair?

Elspeth said...

Initially Erin had one of the other girls auditing the classes with her, but they stopped that when they realized it wasn't needed.

Stella said...

Lets see what season two brings tonight! Looks like the Bates and even the Willis Family are looking like taking over for the Duggar void for the moment!

Stella said...

Some observations from tonight's episode? Thoughts? Opinions?

The season will revolve around both births, engagement and not sure what else for the moment. Alyssa's baby shower seemed a little too formal with the guys in suits? It look like a worship day combined with a baby shower event. This family knows how to celebrate Valentine's Day-- I mean "I love you" day! No side hugs for this family either.

Even though the family march to the same Gothrad philosoph, I can handle their antics much better than the Duggars. It doesn't look that restrictive yet the PR machine could have coached the family.


Tori is the stand out the kids! She tells it how it is and still unchanged. Refreshing for this group. IMO

Stella said...

The distancing has begun

ET's Bates family 'praying for our dear friends' the Duggars
Chuck Campbell


http://www.knoxnews.com/knoxville/pop-culture/ets-bates-family-praying-for-our-dear-friends-the-duggars

capslock said...

Does anyone know why TLC didn't sign the Bates when they were the channel that did mini-specials on them a few times? I thought it was interesting that the Bates are on the UP channel. Didn't know if TLC didn't want the competition with the Duggars, etc.

Bet TLC regrets this decision now!!!

Stella said...

United Bates of America ran for nine episodes on TLC. I am only guessing that the ratings didn't translate well with the Duggars already on the channel. The UP Channel is up and coming so more room to grow and tell the Bates story to a new audience making the family a staple on the UP Network. Both series most likely share the same production company.

HardyHar said...

Uh... let me guess... young women barely out of their teens giving birth to babies, and little boys & girls running around out of control? A marginally talented young kid going off to Nashville to record an album of inane songs (which will be available for sale on their website)? A spinster woman (in her mid twenties!) gets engaged so she can lead a fulfilling life of having babies and staring at her husband adoringly when he speaks? The parents spew soundbites of almost religious sayings that hide the hate in their hearts (for Catholics, homosexuals, transsexuals, women, etc.) Sounds like a TV show to me!

Carol said...

So upset with myself for watching this show and liking it! Gill Bates makes the kool aid considering he's on the ATI cult's board of directors, but ... Nice family. Everyone has their own personality, speaks clearly, doesn't use the words "like, totally, and/or surreal" every three minutes. Batshit crazy beliefs but decent in spite of it all.

stella said...

Carol I agree with you regarding the Bates. I know they drink and preach the kool aide. Their children have well adjusted personalities that don't seem hinder by their belief system. Or they are good actors which I thought. If you go back to when the Duggars would visit the Bates, also appeared the Duggars were kind of snobby to the Bates especially since the children dressed if you can believe more old fashion than the Duggars.

Carol said...

I do remember the Bates showing up in western wear and the Duggar girls looking a little weirded out by it. Can't blame them for that but l agree that they always had an attitude toward the Bateses. Kind of like the popular girl in school condescending to speak to the lower castes. Will be interesting to see if the Bateses will have them on their show considering the Duggars are a bit radioactive right now.

Stella said...

There is a Bates wedding coming up and it will be interesting if the Duggars will show or asked not to distract the event.

sandi said...

Stella,yes it will.Michalea is getting married Aug. 15th.I do think UPtv has likely told the Bateses to keep their distance from the Duggars.
I'm also one who thinks there will be mo Duggar/Bates marriages in the future now.I think that has been ruled out.JMO

June Bug said...

I have always feared we would see a Duggar/Bates wedding. But now I don't think we have to worry about that, I would be really shocked if Gil and Kelly would let that happen now.

I think it's interesting that Joe Duggar is going to college right there in Tenn where Erin went to school, and I haven't seen Joe in any episodes of Bringing up Bates, even before the Josh news broke.

puddin said...

Seen the last episode of The Bates meeting with Michelas, her boyfriend and his parents. I thought Kelly was over the top with all the marriage comments & wasn't this the first time they had met his parents?

Helen Crump said...

I watched this episode, and I think it's not very good to have Kelly pushing for marriage...it puts pressure on the couple who also may not be alone together. Don't be fooled that their "rules" are much different than those silly courting rules the Duggars adhere to..they are both cut from the same Gothard/ATI cloth..they just are more jovial as a family, but step out of line and I'm sure Gil won't "spare the rod". I think they are also directed on their program to act more lively, and "like the rest of us" by their director and producers to differentiate a bit from the uptight Duggars...Gil and Jim Bob are best friends, so how can they live much differently as families? They really don't.

HardyHar said...

So Zach hires a Barbershop Quartet to come in and sing a love song for Whitney: that shows he loves and cares for her, and may have a bit of an imagination. So, Zach hires a Barbershop Quartet to come in and sing a love song for Whitney at his parents' house, in front of the whole family and the TV cameras: that shows that he wants to make himself look good, or that it was the idea of the TV company who thought it would make good TV. Sort of how Joshy proposed to Anna at the restaurant with a couple of hidden cameras, and then when the daughters started to get engaged, it was all a big production number with hidden roses and singers and rows of candles in some church in the woods. The Bates have sold out, too.

sandi said...

Yes Kelly was a bit over the top in her marriage enthusiasm;I wonder if she is living vicariously thru her daughter?

Carol said...

I think they took lessons on how to act in front of a camera. People on tv all have outsized personalities. Of course, I would have to see their first tv appearances to compare but who has the time for that?

HardyHar said...

So, the Michael and Brandon and their parents met up in Chicago, and they decided to paint pottery? They could have gone to the Field Museum of Natural History... Nah, too evolutiony. They could have gone to the Art Institute... Nah, too many Nike moments. Maybe painting pottery was a good idea after all.

puddin said...

I seen the last thursday nights epi of The Bates. Kelly with her Mom was nice to see. The kids getting braces---well geewhiz seen this with the duggar and dentists etc alot the same ...Gil wanting or making deals for dental work...just like Old Jboob wanting it all cheap..same ole same ole i think. I do like how Kelly talks like a real person, atleast its not baby talk like Meeeechelle. The boys and Gil trying to set up a swing set..kinda boring or alot boring i think. I do like how the kids seem like they can speak more freely than the Duggar clan...dont know how real that is as they r still Got-Hard fundys. It was rather a snooze fest i thought IMHO.

Stella said...

Tonight's episode centered around the engagement between Brandon and Michaela. A quick glimpse it seemed of Ali's birth. Alyssa did get her privacy and it wasn't her entire family wasn't present. The episode did show the strong connection between Brandon and Michaela. Brandon was very thoughtful in how he made this day special for Michaela. Even though it was staged with cameras such and most everyone knew, Michaela was surprised, raw and showed real emotion.

Willow said...

I thought this latest BUB episode was interesting. I couldn't help but shed a tear at how emotional Michael was. They showed 3 of Brandon's sisters. That was interesting. The youngest one, Christy, was wearing pants (I think jeans ?) and the oldest sister Angie apparently has her own apartment in D.C. The other sister Becky has been on the show before, I think, and was also in Erin's wedding I believe, so I think she is more well known. I believe their brother Brent also lives in D.C. (I think he is Becky's twin) and an older brother is married to Cooper Dauer's sister. Does anyone know if there is any kind of Gothard connection/work place, whatever, in D.C.?

I was so happy to see Alyssa got what she wanted regarding visitors after her baby was born.

Stella said...

I was wondering the same thing Williow. Does anyone have the background information in Bandon's Family?

Stella said...

Found the answer to my own question regarding information on Brandon's family:

Source: http://bates-family-photos.tumblr.com/post/73384939285/do-you-know-the-ages-of-the-members-of-the-staddon

Q: Do you know the ages of the members of the Staddon and Keilen families? And do you know which of them are married? I think Ruth Wissmann and Donald Staddon or Craig Keilen and Tabitha Paine (I believe she's 28) would make great couples but I have no idea of the men's ages.
A: I don’t know much about the Staddon family other than Robert and Kendalyn and that they’re pretty important in ATI. I know a bit more about the Keilens- Angie (38/39- has a BA and is working on a Masters), RJ (36, married with three kids), Alison (31), Craig (29-30), Brent and Becky (27, twins), Cara (26), Brandon (24), Christy (22) and Amber (20). Other than RJ, none seem to be married. Angie and Alison seem pretty career-focused and both have highish level business jobs. RJ works in real estate and Brent, Becky and Cara seem pretty ATI involved. Christy worked at a pizza place (not sure if she still does) and Amber I think is doing College Plus. Brandon just finished a 3 year course at IMI. I can definitely see a Paine/Keilen courtship. Both families have a lot in common. Craig’s about the right age for Tabitha, and I could see Becky or Cara with Nate. I’d love to see Ruth Wissmann in a courtship. I know next to nothing about Donald Staddon, but his family seems nice enough and they produce adorable grandkids :)
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Stella said...

Did anyone else notice that Michaela did appear to have taken a sister with her on the trip to DC? She seemed very at ease traveling along. In some way it must have been known the engagement was happening and her parents allowed her to go with out a companion. Michaela seems to be closer with Brandon's sister than her own but might be just how the show is edited.

June Bug said...

I thought this weeks show was a good episode. I couldn't help but wonder if Michaela traveled to DC alone. If anyone went with her they certainly kept them hidden out of site. I think Brandon did a good job planning Michaela's special day. Her reaction when he gave her the ring was sweet, It was genuine, raw emotion. You can tell those two genuinely love each other.
I'm glad Alyssa got to visit with just Gil and Kelly after the birth, I was afraid they would ignore her request for privacy and drag a bunch of the kids a long with them .

puddin said...

I enjoyed this episode. Michaela seems like a sweet heart. I thought Brandon's sisters seemed nice. Alyssa's baby is adorable. I am so glad that they didn't show a duggar-style live birth. Soo Happy that Brandon gave Michela a frontal hug!

Dory said...

Lawson cracks me up, and I think he is by far the best looking of the Bates guys. If only I was 15 years younger, and a fundie, and a Republican, and a fan of country music....nope, can't do it. Sorry Lawson, but you sure are a cutie!!

Heart in Florida said...

How is it that some of the Bates children don't have southern accents? They all live in the same place and in the same home?
I do wonder if Michael traveled to DC by herself? They should have let us know if she did or didn't given the advertisement of the Duggars regarding that matter.
Did anyone else notice Michael's complete disconnect of any understanding about having a job? Her fiance' obviously works outside the home in a job of some sort, yet these females in this system don't have any understanding about what that is really like...I find it NOT to be a plus in a marriage..Bates and Duggars alike.
The only hint of an outside/real job the Duggars have had is the day Jessa and Jinger volunteered at Mama Carmen's Coffee Shop and still their family couldn't leave them alone to do it on their own. They had to stick their collective noses in it.

Stella said...

The last time Michaela surprised Brandon she travelled on her own but had friends meet her at the airport whom she stayed with in Texas. The Bates might be a little more lax on the children traveling solo and being on their own. Of course sticking with thy must be a accompany with them to events and gatherings a la Duggar model.

Hopefully Michaela will adjust to her her life in Chicago. She is going to be out of her element so that might be a struggle for her at least in the beginning. Alyssa appears in all accounts to adjusted very well. Yet Alyssa always appeared she would like to move away from the Bates compound and start her own life.

Stella said...

From brandon_michael_jn15 (instagram)


brandon_michael_jn15 It's hard to believe we are only one month away from our wedding!! We are so excited! For all of you that have asked and patiently waited here is our wedding party. ☺️ The brides maids are Kelly Bates, Jana Duggar, Erin Paine, Angie Keilen, Tori Bates, Becky Keilen, Alyssa Webster, Christy Keilen.

The groomsmen are Nate Paine, Brent Keilen, Craig Keilen, Andy Warner, Lawson Bates, Gabe Cleator, Trace Bates, Kelly Dornink.

Carol said...

Hold on... Is that Kelly, mother of bride, listed as a bridesmaid? I hope that's a typo. Or there's another Kelly Bates. Cousin maybe? Otherwise I think they just one-upped the Duggars in weirdness.

Stella said...

It is not a typo and Kelly Jo will be in her wedding as matron of honor. It's really not a surprise she is in the wedding since Michael(a) has always had a close relationship with her mother.

June Bug said...

It really doesn't surprise me that Michaela would have Kelly in her wedding party. She and her mom have always appeared to be very close and probably are really good friends. The first time I saw a bride include her mother in the wedding party I thought it was a little different, but I have actually been to a couple weddings where this was done. I have also seen a father stand up as best man. If the bride and their mother are extremely close I think it's really sweet to include the mother in the wedding party.

Stella said...

#FBF

Page 2: Bates Family of 20 Says They Are Praying for More Children - ABC News

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/bates-family-20-praying-children/story?id=14359053&page=2

puddin said...

I don't see the big deal with Michaela having her Mom as her matron of honor, its her wedding and she should have who she wants in the wedding. Michaela and Kelly seem to be super nice people. Not that I agree with that Got-hard fundy cult/religion.

Stella said...

Tweets from tonight's show--

@BringingUpBates: "College is important because it broadens the possibilities that open up to you… Don't quit learning." Kelly Jo #Education #BringingUpBates

Aunt Bea said...

Kelly Jo's statement about college being an important way to open up possibilities in life; why the, don't they allow their children to attend an accredited "real" college and get a degree that has value and recognition in the real work world? They didn't address exactly what Crown College gives them, did they?
Gil stated that he heard "a man" speak" about how great homeschooling is....we all know that man was Bill Gothard..they chose the hiding behind the screen option with that one...UP, you need to come clean about who these people really are too...you are a religious channel, so why hide what belief system the Bates family adheres to?

Willow said...

Stella, I was going to comment about that also. The differences in how they raise their children, compared to the Duggars, is astounding - too many to mention, but we all know what they are. Gil and Kelly obviously want their children to be happy and accomplished. JB and Michelle are just so "afraid" of everything. Are they afraid their children will be smarter than they are?

Stella said...

If you go to the UP website there are clips from the show.

In particular from last night's show.

BRINGING UP BATES - EDUCATION IS FUN-DAMENTAL

http://uptv.com/shows/bringing-up-bates/videos/bringing-up-bates-education-is-fun-damental/

Stella said...

One more alluding to a possible courtship for Nathan? Or it might just appear to be the case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTffNzGLR-U&feature=youtu.be

Stella said...

Allysaa Webster posted on her Instagram her new hair color-- brunette! Let the fundie concern begin.

Stella said...

It's Michael(a) and Brandon's wedding weekend. Let's see how the Duggars try to over shadow this wedding over the Bates and Kliens. Hopefully it is center around the couple as it should be. Who knows .. Either way it will be an interesting weekend.

June Bug said...

Just saw a picture of Jill and baby Israel posted on Erin Bates-Paine's Instagram, Im guessing the Duggar's were at rehearsal dinner last night. I hope the wedding goes well, I hope we see very litttle of the Duggars in the wedding video. I wonder if Josh (the Coward) and Anna are attending.

Gina G said...

I don't think there will be any difference between the Duggers and the Bates, if anything the fact that Gil is on the board of the ATI institution and follows Gothard is a major red flag, you cannot follow these concepts and not believe what they preach. Gothard attended one of the girls weddings and they had a special cake for him which in later videos they changed to say the grooms cake, this was after Gothard stepped down for harassment of women. They are just as toxic as the Duggers and just like them you just need to give them time before the skeletons start to surface it took the Duggers 10 years before they imploded and now the Bates know what can happen so they will work extra hard to hide their flaws but it's impossible to hide reality and the same rules apply to the Bates. With 19 kids something has to go wrong, life, there is no such thing as so much perfection. They also used t h e Pearl training up system that's why the kids are so well behaved, they are really fearful of what can happen if they disobey their parents. If you see tge old videos you will see they all dressed the same with the pilgrim dresses and the long skirts. They have to look normal so people buy the perception that they are normal! That's what everyone thought of the Duggars, but they are so well behaved and courteous snd so nice, until you look past the tv image and they are real people in the end, ,there is no such thing as sooo much perfection. In the end the Bates were dying to get help to support their family and I they had the Perfect example in the Duggers so they sold out. They will tweek their appearance to sell themselves but deep down inside they are a replica of the Duggers and time will show the reality. These people may be worse than the Duggers and that makes them more dangerous because people are already buying their story.

Stella said...

Michaell(a) and Brandon are finally married. Mazel Tov to the happy couple.

Photos can be found on IG under BATESKEILENWEDDING. The ceremony looked lovely and very much the style of the couple. The wedding was taped not sure if it will be televised this season or the potential of season 3 in the future. Currently only two episodes left for season 2.

sandi said...

Gina,yes,if you look a little closer at the Bates,the facade is there.Gil slipped and called the rest of society 'wolves' one time.They were taught by Gothard that the rest of the world is wolves (non-followers of his cult),and they,his followers are the only sheep.
And then there was Erin,who couldn't possibly sit beside someone with green hair! She has obviously been taught not to tolerate anyone who might be different from them

Stella said...

It took a few days but the wedding has been featured in People Magazine (Photos Included)

Inside Bringing Up Bates Star Michaella Bates and Brandon Keilen's Country Wedding: Get All the Details!


http://www.people.com/article/bringing-up-bates-michaella-bates-brandon-keilens-wedding-exclusive-details

The Bates family is known for doing things big, so for eldest daughter Michaella's wedding to fiancé Brandon Keilen, nearly 800 guests joined the family to help celebrate the couple's big day.

"I've waited for this for so long, and I'm so excited," Michaella tells PEOPLE of her country hometown affair held at Wallace Memorial Baptist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee.

"The theme is cherry blossoms because he proposed when they were all in full bloom," she says of the decor. "And a lot of logs to give it a rustic, country hometown look."

When selecting the menu for all their guests, the Keilens wanted to keep it low-key: "We're having subs and fresh fruit and chips and dip," says the Bringing Up Bates star. "Kind of a simple reception, but hopefully it will be fun for everybody, and we're doing all sweet tea and lemonade."

But the couple went all out when it came to the dessert.

"We're doing a lot of wedding cake. My aunt does cakes, so she is doing several different flavors, so I don't even know how many we're going to have. She makes the most amazing cakes that I have ever had, and we'll have quite the variety."

For Michaella's walk down the aisle, she chose a Mori Lee design with custom added sleeves, while her bridesmaids, including close pal Jana, wore pink and khaki dresses.

And while the couple shared their very first kiss at the altar, they were definitely looking forward to the big moment.

"I'm slightly nervous about it happening in front of so many people, but I think I'm just more excited than anything else," says Brandon.

And his bride couldn't agree more: "I am very ready for it."

Bringing Up Bates airs Thursdays (9 p.m. ET) on UPtv.

Heart in Florida said...

I don't know why folks seem to think that the Bates family is any different than the Duggar family.. if you listen to any of them speak, they use the same vocabulary as the Duggars...that weird "purpose to, encourage, fellowship" the list is endless. If Zach and Whit were allowed to make "their own courting rules" and they inadvertently decided to kiss each other before marriage, why would Zack say that his parents "forgave them"... there would have been nothing to forgive. UP IMO, is trying hard to package the same meal differently than TLC packaged the Duggars, but it's still a baloney sandwich.

Monica said...

I feel the Bates are different than the Duggars; The children seem to be real; some of them are loud, some are shy, they seem to know their mother and father better than JB and Michelle. Kelly and Gil seem to know each child as an individual. I think that is an important difference. Yes it is the same Gothard teaching. But I don't think Gil is like Jim Bob at all. I think he really loves his kids and wants what is best for them.

Anna is not responsible for Josh's sins said...

I don't think Gil is a narrcisist either,which is huge in comparison to Jim Bob,whom I believe is a full blown one

Stella said...

Hopefully after the wedding a couple of weeks ago the families keep their distance regarding the new Duggar mess.

Maybe the Bates will be too busy for fellowship with the Duggars. The holidays are coming up so that is always a nice way to part and not see each other!



Anna is not responsible for Josh's sins said...

Jason is hanging with the Bates;I don't see any distance yet.
Lawson is quite entertaining,and the kids seem to enjoy him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mFK_rhn9Ow

Susie said...

One difference between the Bates and Duggars is that the Bates kids respect Gil. The Duggar kids have no respect and are embarrassed by the ignorance and actions of Jim Bob.

mindy said...

Gil Bates needs to drop the "hey, hey, hey" that he's recently started saying...

Susie said...

Yes....Gil sounds just like Jim Bob when he says "hey, hey, hey..." Drop it.