Tues, December 22, Duggars in the Sky

The Duggars are on ice and in the air! Watch as the hockey team-sized family meets a real hockey team by visiting the Nashville Predators. When the crew brings in a helicopter to film aerial shots, the kids get to see their house from a whole new height.

30 mintues

84 comments:

Digger said...

From the commercial, this one looks like a bore.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I think this one will be quite interesting.

mom2AGE said...

More trips and freebies...I'll pass.

ellie said...

Doesn't the entire family suffer from motion sickness? I've seen at least two other instances where they suffer while on a helicopter or small plane. Why are they torturing themselves?

Anonymous said...

Have the Duggars taken show tips from J&K? It seems that the show has veered off it's path.

It was wonderful to watch the Duggars early episodes as they lived their every day life. Now, however, every show has them traveling or put in an unusual situation (bungee jumping, helicopter rides), just like J&K.

Morgan said...

I can't believe how close they were to me! I am a student in Bowling Green KY and they were just an hour away in Nashville TN for a Predators hockey game :) The commercials said this is the season finale....any ideas when it will start back up?

hannahw. said...

Anonymous said...

Have the Duggars taken show tips from J&K? It seems that the show has veered off it's path.

It was wonderful to watch the Duggars early episodes as they lived their every day life. Now, however, every show has them traveling or put in an unusual situation (bungee jumping, helicopter rides), just like J&K.

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I agree. I don't see the difference between the gosselins and the duggars anymore. The only difference is that the duggars don't fight with each other.

a viewer from Aust said...

hannahw. said... I agree. I don't see the difference between the gosselins and the duggars anymore. The only difference is that the duggars don't fight with each other.
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The start of the show even sounds like the gosselins now! I was watching 18 kids and counting and thought i was watching J&K...

I am just not happen with the way the duggars are going. Love the family, but hate the J&Kness about the show :(

Anonymous said...

I don't see the difference between the gosselins and the duggars anymore.

I'd almost be willing to bet serious money that you will never see Michelle Duggar with fake boobs hanging out of an ugly bikini while her bodyguard stands near by, with JimBob at home working on cabinets......Just sayin'.

Ollie said...

Do these people ever stay home? If I wanted to watch people take trips I'd be watching the travel channel. I miss the early shows when they seemed to just be living their daily lives, which was more interesting to me.
Also, if they travel all the time how are they managing to keep up with homeschooling? They don't seem to have the ability to adapt their teaching methods to new situations, like when they simply stopped school because the power was out, so i doubt they continue when they are on the road. True, I don't know when/how these were all filmed so it could have been done all in a few weeks period during a break. I'm sure some of the older kids also get something out of all this traveling, but they take the whole family around, making me feel sorry for the little guys. They aren't getting much out of all this trips, the smallest ones probably won't remember them anyways, and it takes away the order and routine that most small children need. The Duggars may not take government handouts, but they sure are willing to take them from businesses.

Anonymous said...

What's the difference about whether Kate has bodyguards and a boob job? Both families sold out their children's privacy and childhoods. Both have been bought by TLC and spend their lives taking nonsense trips to fill a half hour TV show. Both Michelle and Kate see themselves as "stars" with producers, lights, cameras and makeup.

So Jim Bob and Michelle don't fight. That's true. But the basic premise for the show (fake reality, paid for by corporate America) is the same. That makes the two families virtually interchangeable.

im.in.PR@gmail.com said...

The Duggars may not take government handouts, but they sure are willing to take them from businesses.

If their appearance brings publicity to an event or business, then they are providing a service, not receiving a handout.

Publicity is a very valued commodity in today's world.

im.in.PR@gmail.com said...

What's the difference about whether Kate has bodyguards and a boob job?

I think the HUGE difference is that Kate Gosselin obviously used her kids to make money for herself and used that money to try and sexualize herself. There is just something extremely about a mother sexualizing herself off the backs of her children's labor.

The Duggars by all appearances have always supported themselves by their own hard work, and seemingly their lifestyle has not changed that much. They constantly talk about saving money and saving money for the future of their kids.

Personally, I'm beginning to be "against" kids being used in reality shows. But if one HAD to chose between the Duggars and the Gosselins, I'd pick the Duggars any day.

pumpkin said...

RE: season finale or not?

According to Wikipedia, there was originally one more episode scheduled fo this season. It was to be called "The Duggars Christmas Extravaganza".

Assuming this is correct (and you never know with Wikipedia), I would wager that this episode has been cancelled due to little Josie's early arrival and Michelle's health.

Anonymous said...

Also, if they travel all the time how are they managing to keep up with homeschooling?

I don't think they travel all the time. They have made 3 episodes already from one Fall break trip they took.

Don't even public schools take a Fall break?

Mandy said...

I read in the show description that the helicopter is at their house because of TLC doing some aerial shots. This isn't another trip.

Digger said...

I can't wait to see the Hayes sextuplets start kindergarten. They are younger than the Gosselins but way ahead of them in every way.

I wish the Duggars had a first day of school episode.

hannahw. said...

Personally, I'm beginning to be "against" kids being used in reality shows. But if one HAD to chose between the Duggars and the Gosselins, I'd pick the Duggars any day.


Oh I agree totally.

Anonymous said...

The Duggars may not take government handouts, but they sure are willing to take them from businesses.

If their appearance brings publicity to an event or business, then they are providing a service, not receiving a handout.
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well,there were things like the NY designer providing them with the furniture,piano,free decorating and appliances in the new house.I think that's what was meant there.I know everything wasn't given to them,but a lot of it was.

im.in.PR@gmail.com said...

well,there were things like the NY designer providing them with the furniture,piano,free decorating and appliances in the new house.I think that's what was meant there.I know everything wasn't given to them,but a lot of it was.,br>
If the Duggars were providing a service such as publicity for the designers and suppliers, then they were not being given "handouts," they were doing something for the product.

Publicity is very expensive to purchase. When you can trade publicity for your product without spending cash, it's a win-win.

Anonymous said...

I think the duggars are about the only reality tv show whose participants are true to their word, they say they use it as a platform to spread the message of Jesus (taken from Josh & Anna's web site) and part of that message is how you act, behave, dress, treat your family ect...

Anonymous said...

I did not see the Duggars doing any such thing,PR.

Ollie said...

Finally, somebody pays attention to safety! I was really glad to see the helicopter pilot making the kids follow basic safety rules when they got on the helicopter. Given the Duggars past history I had images of a bunch of kids just charging the helicopter in my mind! All in all this was a much better episode than I thought it would be, hardly any Jim Bob and the interviews with the little boys were just adorable!

Anonymous said...

In the spirit of this season, I am not here to criticize but to wish you all a happy and healthy New Year as well as a wonderful Christmas or whatever holiday you do celebrate. I enjoyed this episode because its just the Duggars doing what they do .. living life. Dont make it anything more or less than that.

Peace..Maya

im.in.PR@gmail.com said...

I did not see the Duggars doing any such thing,PR.

When the Duggars did the show about how their house was finished and furnished, and when they talked about this in interviews, the decorator received free publicity.

When the Duggars went to Pigeon Forge/Dollywood for the Christmas parade, Pigeon Forge and Dollywood received free publicity because reporters (print media) and TV news stations covered the event.

Also, the Duggars draw traffic to the event/location because they have fans, and people want to see/meet them.

When the newspaper writes an article about the Duggars being at Dollywood, that's publicity for Dollywood that they might not otherwise receive. And when the Duggars show is on, people all over the USA now seeing Dollywood.

So, the Duggars get a free trip, the event/location gets free publicity and it's a win-win for all parties.

I don't know what TLC's ad rate is, but an average ad rate for newspapers in the South is about $15 per column inch if you buy an add (for the smaller papers.) Of course some of the larger papers in the South are much, much more. Like The Tennessean, The Knoxville News Sentinel and The Atlanta Journal Constitution. Those probably average anywhere from $115-200 per column inch. So if Dollywood was buying an ad in any of those papers, the basic price would start at say $155 per column inch. However, if a reporter writes a story about the Duggars being at Dollywood, it's free publicity. See what I mean?

Ollie said...

If the owner of a business is willing to accept publicity in exchange for a good or service then that is their choice, but the publicity isn't really free than maybe just a bit cheaper. My issue with the Duggars on this is that they brag about how they are debt free and frugal, which has lead them to the prosperous life they lead. However, they rarely come out and openly say, at least that I've seen, how much of the stuff they have just given to them. I know at times they have said "we were given this and this" but a lot of the time they try to make it look, at least to me, like they are paying their own way on things that we all know they are probably just being handed. We could all be debt free if businesses were giving us discounts and feebies left and right! I think it's misrepresentation to tell people how you raise this large family without debt and travel around the country without also admitting anytime you get something for free that normal people wouldn't receive.
And before you say it's not any of my business what another persons finances are, you would normally be right, but Jim Bob gave me the right to speculate on it as soon as he started bragging about it on national tv.

klas said...

I think it's misrepresentation to tell people how you raise this large family without debt and travel around the country without also admitting anytime you get something for free that normal people wouldn't receive.


I don't know how much the duggars travelled before their reality show, but I seem to recall on the first special "14 kids and pregnant", Michelle says the've been debt-free for 15 years already.
That's before any freebies or discounts came into the picture.
So I don't think the're fooling anyone.
They just happen to have more money now. They never claim to live as poor people, just to live within their means. If someone can afford more- go for it!

Anonymous said...

Though I enjoy the show, I found this episode boring. I was also turned off by the ride around the hockey rink by M&JB. Too 'rock star' in my opinion. I would really like to see some in depth programs on the home schooling that they do, the chores (jurisdictions) that the kids have, and how the chores progress as the children get older. I know the stated reason for doing the program originally was to demonstrate their beliefs and life style to others, but now (again, only my opinion) they are becoming a sort of circus.

Danulai said...

My husband noticed that they were talking up the benefits of having a camera crew a lot. I wonder if they're doing Gosselin damage control, or if they're trying to avoid some of the allegations that followed the Gosselins. They seemed really intent on proving how great the crew was for the kids (especially when Jill talked about how they're like family).

Anonymous said...

It was wonderful that they were able to have a very personal positive experience with a helicopter before Michelle was Airlifted to the hospital. I'm sure that made the children more comfortable with the situation.

Hand of Providence

MartinMamma said...

Well said Ollie!!

I must agree. There is no way they would have that house and all those wonderful appliances and furniture and such without free give aways. It just wouldn't have happened. I realize they bought the land themselves and started building the house themselves but the truth of the matter is, they had the framework and some electrical done. Not even dry-wall. Then TLC came in and finished the whole thing for free, furnishing it with much nicer appliances than most people have in their homes. (My friends just built their house last year and they don't even have appliances that nice.) They got new furniture and - I believe - an entire pantry of food. And mind you, that "pantry" is actually a three car garage! Had they been left to their own devices, they might NOW be getting into that house. Maybe.

I caught the tail end of the episode and saw the aerial views of the house. What is all that behind there? I saw a basketball court and what looked like a playground, but there was something else I couldn't make out.

Has there been any word on when the show is to resume? I'm guessing it won't be until after Josie is home - and rightfully so - but I wonder if they'll do filming of how the household is dealing with mom not being there. That might make for an interesting season.

BigFan (feeling disappointed) said...

I do hate to admit it, because I had hoped that it wouldn't happen, but this episode smacked of J&K so bad that I almost wanted to turn it off. :(

I honestly hoped that this family wouldn't fall prey to the Fame Monster, but it seems that they are mentioning endlessly how they are being recognized, ect., and it seems to be going to their heads.

Not to mention, they just LOOK different (not that they are bad changes necessarily, but it just seems like more evidence of them selling out. Bummer.

Oh, and STILL no mention of little Josie? C'mon...

Anonymous said...

Was it Jinger or who is was talking about all the "Great Experiences" that the family has had because of the show? Doesn't that sound JUST like Kate Gosselin, crying about the show ending because of all those wonderful experiences her kids got to have?

Seriously, that really struck me, because Kate justified selling the kids' childhoods, because of "experiences". Now the Duggars are doing the exact same thing.

Kay said...

I thought it was cute when Jill asked who was editing the show and then another editor said she's got it all down.

im.in.PR@gmail.com said...

Then TLC came in and finished the whole thing for free, furnishing it with much nicer appliances than most people have in their homes.

Actually, it was not "for free." TLC did it for the publicity and the right to film in the home as the home progressed, which they then turned into a TV show, which TLC sold advertising for, thereby making any money they spent back via ads.

The Duggars provided their home and allowed the process to be filmed, for which they received products. Each party contributed something to the deal.

Joanna said...

Kind of neat having the film crew in the interview set for once, having the tables turned on them. That sounded like Jill interviewing George, at least one of the girls. Really funny how the two camera men were at who was going to go up in the helicopter and the younger guy, "older" guy thing, which we refer to as generation gap. That was funny.

I've noticed we haven't seen alot of Jana at home recently. Maybe she's out doing her own thing. We see more of John David at home then her.

Anonymous said...

If the owner of a business is willing to accept publicity in exchange for a good or service then that is their choice, but the publicity isn't really free than maybe just a bit cheaper.

Here is how it works in publicity world: If you can get a positive article written about you, your product or service, that is far more effective than buying an ad. People tend to ignore or skip over an ad. But they tend to read news articles, especially about interesting and different people, and the Duggars certainly fill that bill.

In fact, the publicity value of an article would be worth 3.5 times the ad rate.

Take this article for instance:
Duggars, PF light the lights tonight
It contains 525 words so it is probably 16 column inches. Say the Mountain Press charges $15 per column inch. That would be an ad value of $240. But the publicity value is $840.

Also, you factor in the value of the internet display of the article. I'd say that one is 300x250 x 6. That would be about $250 in ad value, and $875 in publicity value. When you factor in the fact that the article had 530 page views, the publicity value goes even higher.

Keep in mind also that I used a very small newspaper which has a low per column inch price. Something like The Tennessean or the Knoxville News Sentinel would be on average $115 per column inch.

Anonymous said...

We could all be debt free if businesses were giving us discounts and feebies left and right! I think it's misrepresentation to tell people how you raise this large family without debt...They have been debt free for the past 15 years, long before TLC showed up.

Anonymous said...

We could all be debt free if businesses were giving us discounts and feebies left and right! I think it's misrepresentation to tell people how you raise this large family without debt...They have been debt free for the past 15 years, long before TLC showed up.

12/23/2009 11:31 AM

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true

but look at how they were living debt free -- much smaller home, one bathroom I believe

I know they started building the new home at the time but in 3 years they only got as far as getting it under roof, no drywall, plumbing, etc....even the most staunch Duggar-supporters cannot argue had TLC not shown up in their lives they would not have had the home finished when they did for free, like they did.

Also, regarding travel, I seem to recall, and correct me if I am wrong, that in one of the first specials JB had stated they 'fire-up' (put in a new battery) in the RV (old trusty) ONCE A YEAR to go to ATI, so I don't think any of us are out of line in thinking the only reason they travel so much now is due to the TLC freebies.

I don't really have a problem with any of the above, they made it happen, good for them, what I have a problem with is JB and M trying to present the situation falsly.

I have no idea of the Duggars have inspired the fundamentalist/large family/debt free lifestyle, if they are, I certainly hope the young people looking at them don't have stars in their eyes and think that everyone lives like that. They need to see how the Duggars lived before TLC.

Another example, look at the Bates home before TLC showed up and made their house 4x larger, again for free. I seem to recall JB talking about how they were adding 4000sf to the home and it only cost $400 because of all the free labor and materials (in the infamous front door) they received -- again, not everyone is going to get that, young people thinking this is for them need to not be fooled into thinking that is going to happen for them or worse yet, that they are entitled.

kathie

Anonymous said...

I'd like to see Josh support his family with that lot of dusty cars, only open odd hours and no evenings or weekends. I'd like to see the Duggar children support themselves debt free, without sufficient education or training to enter a field of work, including trades.

The house, the furnishings, the trips, etc. are all courtesy of TLC. When they were debt free they all wore prairie dresses and shared two bathrooms in a house meant for four people. That kind of poverty is not exactly something to aspire to.

Nancy said...

I'm actually happy for the Duggars to receive things in exchange for giving a company publicity for their products. I actually felt the same way about the Gosselins and the Roloffs. It is the identical situation regardless of how much people disliked Kate Gosselin. In the Duggars' case, I do wish they would be much more transparent about how much they get for free because they are actively encouraging people to live a lifestyle similar to theirs (Gothard/debt-free/Quiverful,etc.) so they should be clear that most people will NOT have their standard of living without a TV show.

mlou said...

Saying that the Duggars once lived in poverty is taking it a bit far.

I agree that they would have not gotten as far as they have without TLC but they were never destitute.

They were clothed, fed, safe and what appeared to be happy. I'm sure that they would say they wouldn't go back to their previous situation, but they could make it if they had to.

I don't think anyone is sure of what they could endure until their circumstances change and put them in such a position.

luvmybabies said...

"The house, the furnishings, the trips, etc. are all courtesy of TLC. When they were debt free they all wore prairie dresses and shared two bathrooms in a house meant for four people. That kind of poverty is not exactly something to aspire to."

As has been pointed out ad nauseum, the Duggars started building their home and paid for it in cash *before* the TV show. If the show hadn't come along, they would probably have not as nice of furnishings and not as many trips. They would still have their home - it would have taken longer, but they'd have it on their own. The girls' prairie dress style has probably evolved on its own as they've grown up and changed tastes. They still dress conservatively, they aren't wearing designer duds.

On a side note, the way they were living before isn't poverty. Cross the border into Mexico to see that in true form.

Susan said...

It was the most boring episode yet. Looking at unpacked bags and stretching the helicopter ride out made for a dull show.

Digger said...

I agree. It was boring. I actually fell asleep when the helicopter part started. I saw it later in the rerun.

Jason is becoming one obnoxious kid. He never stops talking. He wouldn't even let Jed talk during the interviews and even corrected Jed on something stupid. He is always wanting to be the center of attention. It is probably a very normal stage for his age but he bugs the cr*p out of me.

James was funny about wanting to shoot birds from the helicopter. Josiah was trying to ignore that comment and then James said they could shoot deer from the copter. LOL! I've never heard that the Duggars were hunters. I can't imagine Jim Bob hunting for some reason. He doesn't seem the type.

Enough with the Multiples said...

re: Was it Jinger or who is was talking about all the "Great Experiences" that the family has had because of the show? Doesn't that sound JUST like Kate Gosselin, crying about the show ending because of all those wonderful experiences her kids got to have?

Seriously, that really struck me, because Kate justified selling the kids' childhoods, because of "experiences". Now the Duggars are doing the exact same thing.
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I thought the exact same thing! TLC's PR dept. must feed them this stuff. J/M seem easily led to begin with; the kids are going to be just as bad. If TLC is going to provide "experiences" for them, I wish it would be college courses or jobs outside the house rather than free trips and VIP treatment at sports games like the Gosselins.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

Like a previous poster said the Duggars were debt free years before they were on TLC. Why do they have to make it public which items they have purchased are purchased with TLC money? Do you think if they did that TLC would be putting those comments on their 19 minutes of viewing each week.

By the way I recall when the house was finished and furnished in that one episode at the end it was listed which items were donated. I also recall reading somewhere that they receive about $25,000 worth of things for their house. TLC did not comnpletely furnished that house like Extreme Makeover does. The Piano was a gift and the children's rooms were done by a professional who came and did it to the children's liking.

I recall that Michelle said that she was storing away for years furniture and furnishings in her storage while the house was being planned and eventually built. She said they lived simply and did not decorate their smaller house but were putting the items in storage for their new house. Thus it may appear that over night they aquired a lot of furniture but that is not what really happened.

The commercial kitchen was purchased second hand savings $$$. I think it was a K Mart that went out of business and they bought it used at an auction.

They buy their vehicles used. One of their traveling buses, not the big Grayhound bus was made by them. They bought two used buses and made it into a new one. The Grayhound bus too was purchased rather cheeply and the family converted it into a camper.

Anonymous said...

The girls' clothing has changed dramatically, and so has Michelle. It isn't just the older girls either, who now wear more age appropriate clothing. The little girls don't wear big collared prairie dresses or huge jumpers now either. They wear GAP dresses and leggings.

So, it isn't that the older girls' styles have changed. The whole family, including the boys, now dress in a more contemporary fashion. And the boys don't part their hair on the side and slick it down anymore either.

I don't have a problem with their new clothing, but again, those flip flops aren't one bit modest, nor is riding a horse or go cart in a skirt to ones knees. Jus' saying.

Anonymous said...

The furnishings of the new house do not match the doily mismatched Grandma style of the old house. I don't for a minute believe that Michelle was secretly buying designer furniture pieces and storing them, and then, VOILA! They all magically match and are current, up-to-date, and trendy.

If Michelle had it in her to do that kind of decorating, we would have seen fewer doilies, recliners and wallpapers in the old house. So, it really was TLC and the free designer who furnished their home. Also, I do believe that they have admitted as much.

Anonymous said...

Anyone know how much it costs to buy a Greyhound bus? Like over 100 grand, even if it is a crummy one.

Anonymous said...

I do wish they would be much more transparent about how much they get for free because they are actively encouraging people to live a lifestyle similar to theirs (Gothard/debt-free/Quiverful,etc.) so they should be clear that most people will NOT have their standard of living without a TV show.

I think the reality is that they DID have a nice standard of living long before TLC ever showed up. They own enough rental property that neither JimBob or Michelle had to work outside of the home, that also before TLC showed up. What the Duggars have is because of what they have worked for and saved.

Anonymous said...

I have no idea of the Duggars have inspired the fundamentalist/large family/debt free lifestyle, if they are, I certainly hope the young people looking at them don't have stars in their eyes and think that everyone lives like that.

Maybe TLC should attach warning labels to their shows. Like WARNING: Living as the Roloffs do will not turn you into a little person.
WARNING: Watching "18 Kids and Counting" will not turn you into a debt free fundamentalist. And so on, and so forth.

Anonymous said...

Jim Bob is a great businessman. Those cell phone towers alone pay off big time. If I get anything from the Duggars I want to learn how to make good investments.

MartinMamma said...

im.in.PR@gmail.com said...

Then TLC came in and finished the whole thing for free, furnishing it with much nicer appliances than most people have in their homes.



Actually, it was not "for free." TLC did it for the publicity and the right to film in the home as the home progressed, which they then turned into a TV show, which TLC sold advertising for, thereby making any money they spent back via ads.

The Duggars provided their home and allowed the process to be filmed, for which they received products. Each party contributed something to the deal.

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True. Very true. Well said. I wonder if they'll do the same for when Josh and Anna need an expansion. Hmmm

Anonymous said...

Doesn't anyone remember the TLC shows "While You Were Out" and "In a Fix?" Deborah DiMare, the interior designer who "donated her time" starred as the interior designer in both TLC shows.

Deborah DiMare, I'm sure, was brought in by TLC to do the Duggar's interior design work.

Anonymous said...

I don't think 18 people sharing two bathrooms in a three bedroom house is a nice standard of living. But that may be just me.

Anonymous said...

"I have no idea of the Duggars have inspired the fundamentalist/large family/debt free lifestyle, if they are, I certainly hope the young people looking at them don't have stars in their eyes and think that everyone lives like that."
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Well... there are some who have been inspired by them to to pursue that type of a lifestyle (I see on my college campus) but that is also because they are part of a much larger religious movement. The Duggars show that you can be modern and modest, and homeschooled and have a personality. I don't see how it is all "so terrible". At the same time, I do not think a lot of young people have unrealistic expectations about have 19 kids and living in a mansion. Obviously, their TLC income is helping out. Their lifestyle however is certainly something some people are emulating and find intriguing.

Anonymous said...

I wonder how soon the family will be taking a trip to Hawaii...ala Jon and Kate?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I don't think 18 people sharing two bathrooms in a three bedroom house is a nice standard of living. But that may be just me.
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I agree, but I think the last 2 (now 3) kids weren't born until after they moved into the current house.Still,the former house was said to be only about 2000 sq ft,so they were obviously lacking in space,and had to stand in line and wait their turn to go to the bathrooms.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I doubt that this family has any desire to go to Hawaii. They used they money to send the older kids to El Salvador as they have done for years to bless many children. They give an orphanage a Christmas party each year.

Some of you have stated that TLC decorated their entire house. This is not true. The professional decorator decorated only the children's bedrooms.

The Duggars have great taste and are very capable of decorating in style. Can you not see this in their presentations of their celebrations. Last year's party they gave the children at the Orphange was first class and so was Anna's baby shower. yes, they may dress differently because of their view of "modesty" which many may not consider modern, but in many other ways they show great taste. Yes, Michelle decorated her own livingroom by buying new things and storing them till they moved in their new home. The smaller home she did not invest much in time and money to decorate as she was putting her investment and postponing it till the new house was done. TLC only invested a small amount that is $25,000 which is small considering all that the house and property is worth. You all try to make it sound like TLC made it all possible. If TLC was do do it all why did the Duggars wait at least one summer season to get AC in their home? Their house was not done like Extreme Makeover does, making the house and completely furnishing it and often giving a vehicle or paying for the children's college education.

MomOfThree said...

Chapter 8 (Pg 199) of the Duggars' book is titled "A House Built With Love". It chronicles the process of building, decorating and furnishing their current home.

The family had begun building (in 2002) before TLC came along (in 2004). Except for the advice and tutorage from family friend Clark Wilson (Pg 207) and then friends and church family, who "helped paint the entire house, lay all the tile, do trim work and stain kitchen cabinets" (Pg 209), it was solely a family project until
the very end when Jim Bob hired a professional contractor. The Discovery Channel then "paid for the next round of plumbers and electricians" (Pg 210) so they could finally finish their documentary on the family.

In the meantime, Michelle had been sorting and purging their belongings and picking up and storing items "found at yard sales and auctions" for their new home (Pg 211).

"As a surprise", the Discovery Channel brought in Deborah, the professional designer. She helped guide the family in choosing colors, fabrics and brand new furniture (Pg 213), and "with the Discovery Channel providing new surprises almost every day" (Pg 216), it appears that alot of the interior of the house...design, labor and decor...was gifted. Specifically, (Pg 215) the appliances in the "pretty kitchen" were "gifts from Frigidaire because of Deborah's association with the company" and (Pg 218) the grand piano was a gift from "Wyman Piano Company and the Learning Channel".

All in all, it seems that while the Duggars paid for the majority of all of the expenses incurred in building their home, they had a great deal of goods and services "donated", something that most people are not "blessed" with. IMO, this is just another way that TLC has, in a sense, exploited the family for TLC's purposes. TLC needed to complete the "documentary" in a timely fashion and within budget, so they simply "speeded up" the process by 'paying' for it themselves, i.e. sponsors (Pg 210). This makes sense. Viewers cannot "see" air conditioning, but they can see a grand piano, pretty kitchens and a huge playroom. Also, when this episode aired, I remember seeing the backyard nicely sodded, and landscaped because they also showed a beautiful barbeque area and gazebo. They also showed one of the boys using a central vacuum system, something else non-essential but most likely "gifted".

Personally, I would much rather have forgone some of the furniture and landscaping and instead used the money to put in air conditioning, especially in a steel home with a metal roof. That type of structure will be cold in winter and hot in summer. (I once worked in a building constructed this way and even with heat and air conditioning in the proper seasons, it was never quite comfortable.) But again, I guess only that which could be seen was completed.

Anonymous said...

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I doubt that this family has any desire to go to Hawaii.
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I doubt that this family had any desire to go to an Ethiopian restaurant, either, but there they were. It's not really about what THEY want; it's simply about what they are "invited" to, what makes for good TV and where TLC books them.

Anonymous said...

We saw most of the furniture coming right off a Lehman's truck all brand spanking new in the Moving In special. The things bought at auction by the Duggars was most of the industrial kitchen.

The were given the swing set for doing one of their specials and new bikes for another special.

The only furniture in the new house that came from the old house are the boys metal bunk beds and I think the blue chair in JB and Michelle's room. Everything else was donated probably as payment for doing the shows. Sounds like a great deal to me.

Cyn said...

Anonymous said...

Anyone know how much it costs to buy a Greyhound bus? Like over 100 grand, even if it is a crummy one.
12/23/2009 6:19 PM

The Hockey bus they bought they paid $2500.00 for in an on-line auction... Which one they don't say but I get notices for on-line auctions with huge car and heavy equipment and the auctions start in the $50.00 range some go as cheap as a one $50.00 bid.

Same auction site regularly posts computers and parts and the bids start as low as $7.00 for 120 laptops. They do not have OS but you can buy what ever Operating System you want cheaper than a brand new laptop and then be able to load it the ones you want. An auction not long ago sold an entire factory of weaving machines from the large machines that spin the yarn to the planters in the front office... and EVERYTHING that wasn't nailed down in between. 50 of the slightly larger desk calculators went for one $7.00 bid.

The Duggars have been very public with their thanks of things donated to them. I've heard her thank the people that gave them those things WHEN they gave them, and in their book. What the Duggars teach is you CAN live debt free and quite well IF you 'purpose' to do so. Yes the house was done FASTER because of TLC, but at the same time we also only see the parts of the house TLC decorated or got them donations for.

We rarely see the other areas of the house and that's where the things Michelle had been buying for years is probably located. What they didn't need they probably donated to Josh and Anna's house.

They lived in several smaller houses they paid CASH for each time. Before moving into that very large house they were building from the ground up. They bought the land first with the commercial rental property on it then bought the land to the other side of it and that's where they built the house. They are famous for 'Duggar time' They would have gotten the house done sooner or later. TLC simply sped up the time line.

Anonymous said...

The Duggars may have had a lot of their furnishings and etc donated to them by TLC so who cares. They are still living debt free. And debt free means paying in full for what you buy. OK TLC pays them to do a show. I doubt that they have to pay income tax due to the number of children they have so there is even more money for them to spend if they so wish. They simply do not buy anything on credit (via a loan or a credit card). That is all that living debt free is all about. I also imagine they pay for all of their utilities themselves and probably pay in full each month. Something I know for a fact that many people do not do.
Anybody can live debt free if they want to do it. Just put away the credit cards and don’t buy anything you can’t pay for in full. And if you are resourceful enough you can buy many nice things at an auction, yard sales or second hand shops. Nothing at all wrong with that. As for all the complaints about hand me down shoes, that has been happening for eons with large families and nobody has suffered for it, except for the occasional smart remarks by kids in school, something the Duggars don’t have to put up with.
Not only do they have the income from TLC but JB also has those rental properties, etc. I think beyond showing how to live debt free they are also showing that you can provide for your family even if you do unconventional means to achieve that. After all, many people invest their money in the stock market, or bonds, or buying real estate and nobody gets on their case about it. How do we know that the Duggar children (Josh especially) don’t have such investments? They don’t have to tell us everything that goes on in their family because it really isn’t any of our business. They could very well be reading these comments and laughing their heads off about it!! LOL

Melilly said...

"Some of you have stated that TLC decorated their entire house. This is not true. The professional decorator decorated only the children's bedrooms."

See MomofThree's post right below yours, which lays out the extra help and donated items to furnish the house in style.

Anonymous said...

When you earn thousands of dollars a week by exposing your family on TV, the very least you can do is buy them each a decent pair of shoes. $2 flip flops are horrible for the foot, as are used shoes, as they conform to the original wearer's particular and unique foot.

They wear GAP and other name brands now, so decent shoes is really a must, if only for the health of the foot (bad shoes can lead to knee and hip problems too).

Cyn said...

Anonymous said...

When you earn thousands of dollars a week by exposing your family on TV, the very least you can do is buy them each a decent pair of shoes. $2 flip flops are horrible for the foot, as are used shoes, as they conform to the original wearer's particular and unique foot.

They wear GAP and other name brands now, so decent shoes is really a must, if only for the health of the foot (bad shoes can lead to knee and hip problems too).
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My sister in her early 50's has been wearing flip flops since she was in her late teens.... no walking issues what so ever... Our only issue is she wears them in the WINTER as well.

Because I am not a clothing expert I couldn't tell you what clothes the kids are wearing now unless I saw the tags IN the clothes. But I do know you can pick up name brand items almost brand new at 2nd hand stores, good will, and the rest.

I do know the older girls made those earlier prairie dresses because they LIKED Laura Ingalls and her books, and those types of stories. Now that the ones doing any and or all of the sewing are older they have out grown the 'want' to look like little house on the prairie.

Combine that with a probably bigger clothing budget you are going to get different clothing styles.

Anonymous said...

I know the girls liked the Wilder book and loved to dress like them when they were younger,but there is no doubt(IMO) that tlc made this family over by having them wear more updated clothing and hairstyles.And I doubt the house would be so modernly updated without tlc's help.I'm not criticizing this..in fact,I think it's a shame.I (and I suspect many)of the viewers would have just preferred to see the Duggar's as themselves,as they were,in the earlier shows.The collared clothing,the old-fashioned way Michelle decorated,more emphasis on the homeschooling,and their daily lives,etc.They were just being themselves and imo,that is much preferable to the set-up arrangement tlc came along and did to this family.
What would be interesting is,when the day comes tlc is out of their lives,how will the house then be decorated,once the mod items wear out and are replaced? will everyone still be dressing so modernly,or will they revert to being themselves again?

Anonymous said...

will everyone still be dressing so modernlI y,or will they revert to being themselves again?


I really don't think the girls dress that modern. My girls would never dress the way the girls do - not nearly cool or modern enough.

Anonymous said...

Michelle made a point in the earlier episodes to talk about the reason for the matching prairie dresses, and it wasn't because the girls liked the Wilder books (when was this factoid revealed?), but for her husband and God.

I don't much care that they wear GAP and name brand clothing now or that they live in a more fashionably decorated house, thanks to TLC. I would wonder, however, if they have strayed so far from their unique original values, however, that they can never get them back. There is something about "once you let the genie out of the bottle"...

Somebody's Nana said...

Anonymous said:I (and I suspect many)of the viewers would have just preferred to see the Duggar's as themselves,as they were,in the earlier shows.The collared clothing,the old-fashioned way Michelle decorated,more emphasis on the homeschooling,and their daily lives,etc.They were just being themselves and imo,that is much preferable to the set-up arrangement tlc came along and did to this family.
What would be interesting is,when the day comes tlc is out of their lives,how will the house then be decorated,once the mod items wear out and are replaced? will everyone still be dressing so modernly,or will they revert to being themselves again?


I look at the situation a bit differently, similar to how I watched my kids grow up. We tend to look back on the past with nostalgic eyes and make the assumption that if everything had just stayed the way it was, it would be perfect.

I think the kids growing up had more to do with the change in clothing than TLC. Kids change - and they want their style to be what feels right to them. When my girls were growing up, we had a modified modesty rule (not as stringent as he Duggars as they were allowed to wear pants, etc.). I wouldn't question their style as long as there was no cleavage or tight clothing, no advertising on their shirts, and no bare midriffs. One daughter liked dresses, the second one preferred large baggy blouses and long skirts (her school required dresses) from the local thrift store, and the third preferred baggy sweats or flannel pants. All were covered modestly, but within their style. I however, would look at their cute pictures of when they were younger and sigh...

I'm sure that if the Duggars still dressed in the style they did when they were younger, they would be receiving even more criticism. Either way, criticism of their dress is unwarranted. They have consistently maintained the same standards, just with a different style.

Flip Flop Feet said...

Regarding the flip flops issue, I'm 23, and I cannot get enough of my flip flops. I would probably wear them every day to work if I could - and right now it's 31 degress outside. As soon as I walk in the door at night, my "professional hosiery" is off, and my flip flops are on. Sometimes I don't make it that far, as I have a pair of flip flops in my car! I'm just saying that maybe the girls love their flip flops. Of course I have other shoes that are probably better for me. My sister (age 17) is the same way.

I am also glad that the family (especially the girls) are dressing they way they are. It's always good to see someone dress a little more modern, even if TLC helped them do it. Maybe they brought in the "What Not To Wear" folks! And Michelle's hair - love it so much better! We just need to get her to stop wearing the black tights with everything!!

SuzanneDeAZ said...

anonymous said: "What would be interesting is,when the day comes tlc is out of their lives,how will the house then be decorated,once the mod items wear out and are replaced? will everyone still be dressing so modernly,or will they revert to being themselves again? "

Michelle did not decorate her old home as she was storing her newer more modern furniture for her new home. Some people know how to delay gratification and not want things immediately. When she lived in the smaller house she purposely kept it the way it was cause she was waiting for the newer home to bring it more up to date. That does not mean she did not have the taste nor the means to update it, she just postponed it.

Cyn said...

Anonymous said...

Michelle made a point in the earlier episodes to talk about the reason for the matching prairie dresses, and it wasn't because the girls liked the Wilder books (when was this factoid revealed?), but for her husband and God.
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She made a point to say the reason they wore dresses was to bring your eyes to their faces and away from their bodies. And Dad likes long hair and that's why they have long hair.

The girls liking Laura Ingalls type clothing I THINK is in the book but I cant check for sure till tonight when my hubby gets home (the book is in the car)

PS any one know where we can watch the early hour long shows... YouTube pulled them all down (14 and pregnant again, raising 16 kids, moving with 16 kids and the others) Only ones still up are the series shows.

Sharla said...

I think I noticed 16 Kids and Counting will be on next week. The exact times will be on the TLC website.

Cyn said...

Sharla said...

I think I noticed 16 Kids and Counting will be on next week. The exact times will be on the TLC website.
12/30/2009 11:49 AM

Thanks...

I haven't had cable in 3 years my only way to watch it was to be in TN on the days it aired OR watch on you-tube (I used to be able to watch them after they aired on TLC but they took those down as well)

Guess I'll have to either wait for my birthday and ask for the DVD's or next Christmas (I got the book this Christmas ;) )

Anonymous said...

I think Jana might be staying with the Bates family in TN. On the webisodes on TLC's website it showed Jana with Erin at Crown College, a small Christian college where Erin takes music theory classes. Maybe they just got to be better friends and she wanted to stay for a while.
Also, has anyone noticed the only older girl we see being interviewed is Jill? I love Jill but I would also love to see some Jessa and Jinger also.

Anonymous said...

>Michelle did not decorate her old home as she was storing her newer more modern furniture for her new home. Some people know how to delay gratification and not want things immediately. When she lived in the smaller house she purposely kept it the way it was cause she was waiting for the newer home to bring it more up to date. That does not mean she did not have the taste nor the means to update it, she just postponed it.

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Then whose items were in the house? and how do you know this?

Anonymous said...

>I think the kids growing up had more to do with the change in clothing than TLC. Kids change - and they want their style to be what feels right to them.
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I think tlc changed them,just as they did with the more mod furniture and decor in the new house.Michelle didn't lose that think head of hair with it's 80's hairstyle and those heavily collared dresses she wore for nothing.tlc no doubt said 'look folks,we've got to get you up to par'.and so they did.
recall it wasn't just the kids' clothing and hair that changed...it was Michelle's as well.

Anonymous said...

>The girls liking Laura Ingalls type clothing I THINK is in the book but I cant check for sure till tonight when my hubby gets home (the book is in the car)

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I think it is in there.I know the decor was said to be chosen for their bedroom based on the books;things like the beds,etc.

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Marybeth said...

That isn't a "Greyhound" bus...it was owned by a professional hockey team in Canada...he bought it used from them...rest assured he got it for a great deal. On several of the trips you can hear the kids comment on how the bus still smells at times of "hockey sweat."

Jim Bob is not a stupid man. He is a business man. He was building a house and he was building it himself with his family. It was paid for without TLC and it would have been finished without TLC. However when TLC came knocking, he answered the door. Not all the furniture in the house was provided by TLC, a lot of it was, but not all. As stated, the commercial kitchen was purchased for 11k at an auction from a Kmart that went out of business. The boys bunkbeds are the same beds they'd been sleeping on in their old house. The girls got new beds--I think they deserved them.
The pantry was filled by sara lee/campbell's for the 1 hour special because they didn't have enough in their own pantry to fill it when they moved in. So they got some free food--and a product placement--I doubt JB had much to say about it, it was probably done for him for the shot so the shelves would look full--you know he doesn't buy name brands, and if you look closely at the special you can see their "off" brands mixed in on the shelves.

So what should JB and Michelle have done? Said "no" when TLC came knocking? They have managed to keep their family running the same way they always have. They still buy used clothes and cheap groceries. They take trips that are offered to them--I would too. They are celebrities even without their TV show--they have 19 kids!

Their kids are still being taught, they still have manners, they are seeing the country and meeting a lot of people. They are learning how to handle themselves in a lot of situations. And to say they have no skills is just plain wrong. These kids know how to build a house--something I don't know how to do! I can't even hang a picture on the wall properly! And the girls know plumbing, electric, and carpentry too--don't kid yourselves.

So maybe this wasn't the most exciting episode ever, but it was their life--they do get invited places and they do say yes. If I was invited to a game, I'd go, and if a helicopter came to take pictures of my house, I'd go for a free ride too.

Digger said...

I visited Debra DiMare's website and it says on that site that she "designed and furnished" the Duggar home. I don't think she paid for the funishing though. Probably just picked it out. TLC most likely paid for it.

http://www.dimaredesign.com/story.html