Bates Special March 27

Oh, please, only a special and not a regular show.

People

39 comments:

ennvee said...

That was quick. :D

The pap in the People article

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20568636,00.html

is unbelievable, glossing over, well, everything that isn't happy, shiny and perfect.

Rainbow68 said...

People.com says it's a one-hour special, although they may be testing the waters for a series. Perhaps moving on from the Duggars - maybe a few specials a year like the Roloffs - and injecting new blood into the network?

Alberta Rose said...

I wouldn't mind watching about the Bates. My son and I enjoy them because they do Bluegrass music. I also like how they do chores, and the house they live in.

Patrice said...

Kelly says they want to help people, just like the Duggars helped people by being on TV. I want to know, what is this big "help" to which they are referring?
I must admit I find the Bateses very slightly more palatable than the Duggars but I can easily predict that if they get a regular show, their lives will follow the same downfall the Duggars have taken.
I did lose respect for them after their last special when they admitted in a roundabout way that Lawson was supporting the family.And yet they seem to have no plans for stopping the baby factory.
Hopefully TLC will cut them both off before the 20th baby competition begins.

Esther said...

With a fertility rate of less than 5 per thousand and a miscarriage rate of 60% and up, I'm not holding my breath for either Michelle or Kelly to have another successful pregnancy.

ennvee said...

I really hope Kelly is pressed about the progesterone, which she has taken up to viability with the last 2 or 3 children (after suffering the miscarriage at about the same gestation as "Jubilee" Duggar).

Alberta Rose said...

That's another reason I like the Bates. When my brother and I started getting paycheques, my mom said we could start buying our own clothes and pay for our options in school, to help us learn how to budget and manage our money. About a month after that started, suddenly there was less "We're having split pea soup and home made bread" suppers at the end of the month. Plus Brooks & Dunn in their song "Only In America" sing about "One kid works to buy a car, one kid works to pay the rent". It's actually not too uncommon for older kids to help out finaincially. At least Lawson is an adult living at home, not a kid trying to juggle high school, a part-time job and helping out his parents and younger brother.

Elverna Bradshaw said...

Kelly only has to wait 40 days until they start on their next endeavor so we should be able to see very soon how viable her next pregnancy will be.

Andrea said...

The reason the Bates are more tolerable than the Duggars is because they themselves are college educated and their children attend college as well. If I'm remembering correctly. Can anyone else confirm this?

ennvee said...

Yes, Gil and Kelly are graduates of a Christian college (not sure if it is/was accredited). Erin takes one music class a semester at Crown College, the only college acceptable for their extreme views regarding education. Remember Erin's horror about possibly having to sit next to a kid with green hair?

Zach is apparently working on a history degree at some online degree mill. I don't think Michaella, Lawson or Nathan (the only other kids over 18) are pursuing school of any kind.

At any rate, whatever education the Bates kids receive is highly controlled and biased; critical thinking is not encouraged, lest they get ideas that make a bird want to fly away.

They've never revealed whether they are using College Plus! like the Duggars, but their choices are no better than the "education" the Duggar kids. Jill is still supposedly working on some sort of doula training...for the last two years.

And if Josh ever makes it to law school, I'll dance naked on the Golden Gate Bridge. A lazy schlub like him really doesn't even have a chance of being accepted to any reputable school anyway. Gothard college, or the Christian online degree mills (made for the specific purpose of keeping kids isolated from real world colleges) can not prepare any Duggar or Bates kid for post-grad work.

hart&sole said...

I can confirm that the kids are taking classes and that the Bates are college educated. To me, the Bates are 10 times better than the Duggars. Better home schooling, better life for the kids, more mom and dad time, more freedom. I really hope that the Bates don't even consider a full time show, a special now and then, yes, having their life disected down to the brand of toilet paper they use. Gil and Kelly really need to think about that one!

ennvee said...

I just remembered that Michaella IS taking the online classes (again, they have never disclosed if it's Gothard U or another diploma mill like Anna Duggar's "degree"). I believe she's studying English Lit, which is interesting, considering what a hardcore Christian "college" is going to allow their students to read.

Certainly nothing that I read as an English Lit major (including Shakespeare). I imagine there is a lot of Milton and Spenser and CS Lewis and other not-too-taxing Christian literature in the curriculum.

sandi said...

I do recall Gil's comment about referring to college kids as 'wolves'.It's in one of the online videos.He said something about getting the kids to be more mature before they get sent out to the wolves (at college).

sandi said...

I guess Erin doesn't know that a lot of college fans color their hair in team colors the day of the game.It's only temporary and it washes out.I see a lot of them around here,and I'm not in a big city.It goes to show you how isolated they really are.heck,you can se that on tv (which they can't watch).

no1 said...

And if Josh ever makes it to law school, I'll dance naked on the Golden Gate Bridge.

Ha Ha! I'll join you. I really doubt he could even take the LSATs.

Dar said...

I also am at a loss as to how, exactly, their being on television is of help to anyone but themselves. How arrogant of these people! If they would just say, "we need the money", I would have so much more respect for them.

I also agree that adult children who are living at home and earning money outside the home should contribute to the household. I don't agree that a son should be put in the position of carrying the financial weight of the whole family on his back. To actually use hormone supplements to get pregnant when there are already so many children is irresponsible.

Kelly Bates, like Michelle Duggar, also hands her "blessings" over to a "Buddy".

What both of these women are doing is presenting a false impression of what their life is like. I refuse to believe that all those personalities are living together and they have no disagreements whatsoever. They all keep "sweet". Those older girls must, at some point in time, get fed up with their mother becoming pregnant delivering yet another child for them to look after.

I will also say, looking at the preview of the Duggars show next week, that Meryl Streep better watch her back. Michelle Duggar is becoming one terrific actress .

roddma said...

"Plus Brooks & Dunn in their song "Only In America" sing about "One kid works to buy a car, one kid works to pay the rent". It's actually not too uncommon for older kids to help out financially"
I don't agree in parents who keep having kids knowing they can't support them needing the help of their other children. I do support kids helping to an extent but the parents shouldn't use that as an excuse to be irresponsible. Kids need to be saving for their own futures.

Tiffches said...

I do not know how watching the Bates or the Duggars make millions, is helping people. They do not educate their children. Their children are not allowed even the basic freedoms allowed prisoners. Their thoughts are not even allowed to be voiced. The parents only have the children, then they are handed over for another child to raise. If their is a tragedy somewhere, they run out in flip flops and get in the way while they are filmed.
I have never heard of them handing over entire paychecks to people needing help. I hope the children are paid separately, but I doubt it. If they are, it is still considered JimBobs' money. He is the master that hime worships and I feel Gil is the master the Bates family worships. Even at age 20, the "children" can not have a life. They are not even allowed to interpret the Bible their way. JmBob tells them what it means. I do not find any inspiration in them. Just adults, controlling adults as well as young children. I fear the puinshments the "parents" put out against the children. The Bates are exactly the same. The main difference, Kelly has not learned how to do the fake voice that Michelle uses.

Stephanie said...

This is the beginning of the Duggars and Bates going from friends to frenemies. The Duggars will become jealous over this and the Bates all these years have probably been thinking "why do THEY have a tv show making lots of money?"

The Duggars like being superior to the Bates no matter what they say.

What a self-righeous and arrogent comment in People saying they want to "help" people?
Help us what? See the light? Love our children? Quit our jobs? Undereducate our children? Obsess over sex? Stop using birth control? Have my daughter where second hand rags and flip flops? Let my boys run wild all day, sleep in til 9 and stay up all night? Be intolerant and ignorant like Josh? Give birth at home on camera? The list obviously goes on.

Elverna Bradshaw said...

So does anyone else think that TLC is looking online for repossessed tour buses for the Bateses?

londonbridges said...

Count me in on the naked dancing!! I'll believe it when I see Josh's degree.

londonbridges said...

Kelly Bates doesn't have Michelle's fake sickening voice yet. It probably won't take long for it to appear. JMHO.

Vivvy said...

"And if Josh ever makes it to law school, I'll dance naked on the Golden Gate Bridge.

Ha Ha! I'll join you. I really doubt he could even take the LSATs."

Count me in! Plenty of room on the GGB for all of us.

Miggy said...

Sorry, I can't join you all dancing naked on the Golden Gate Bridge when Josh gets into Law School - it's a bit far from home. Instead, I promise to scream 'Nike' to protect all the innocent souls that you might corrupt! :)

Alberta Rose said...

Plus Brooks & Dunn in their song "Only In America" sing about "One kid works to buy a car, one kid works to pay the rent". It's actually not too uncommon for older kids to help out financially"
I don't agree in parents who keep having kids knowing they can't support them needing the help of their other children. I do support kids helping to an extent but the parents shouldn't use that as an excuse to be irresponsible. Kids need to be saving for their own futures.

Some parents unfortunately do. One of my co-workers graduated and is living at home for the sake of her younger sister. Going back in time, I choose an intense one year college program because it meant living at home an extra year to ensure my brother wouldn't have to work extra hours to make up for the financial shortfall. I have another co-worker who graduated and is living at home to help out with the expenses because his dad and step-mom are expecting a baby. My parents weren't fundamentalist Christian and the two co-workers aren't fundamentalist. Point is, it's not just a fundamentalist thing, it's not even having a double digit amount of kids, some times whether it's economic necessity or caring about a younger sibling, some kids do help out financially.

Esther said...

My mother had to help out the family financially as teen and basically it scarred her for life. Her story is worse than Nathan or one of the other Bates' kids, but as a result I would never have had more children than I could support and I find it terrible for anyone whether a welfare mother, a Gothard follower, or anyone else to have children without the means to keep them in at least minimal necessities.

Krissy said...

This is the beginning of the Duggars and Bates going from friends to frenemies. The Duggars will become jealous over this and the Bates all these years have probably been thinking "why do THEY have a tv show making lots of money?"
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

It's interesting this is mentioned because I have long felt the frenemy vibe between the Bates and Duggars.

Personally I don't hold the Bates in higher esteem because they let one or two of their children take a random class at an unaccredited, crappy online diploma mill. They still follow the same doctrine and Kelly dumps her babies on the older girls the same way Michelle does.

If Josh gets into REAL law school I will do naked cartwheels through Central Park. Jill has allegedly been pursuing nursing training for what, two years? If she were at a legit school she would be halfway done through her program, yet we hear no mention of it.

NotAMoocher said...

I hope the Bates do not get their own television show. I've seen enough of huge religious families with the Duggars, thank you very much.

I disapprove of the way that Mr. and Mrs. Bates rely on the financial help of their adult son, Lawson. Mr. Bates should get a job that supports his family without need to rely on his son. He is an able-bodied man with a college degree and actual job experience in the corporate field. While he is free to choose to limit his income, it's wrong for him to do so at the expense of Lawson, who must then fill in the gap that his father is wilfully choosing not to provide.

When adults have children, they must accept that they are responsible for raising and caring for them until they reach adulthood. If Lawson wasn't paying so much money to support his parents and their huge brood, he could afford to move out into his own place, perhaps meet and marry a nice young woman, and begin his own family. Instead, his resources are being drained to support his father's poor employment choices. Disgraceful.

NotAMoocher said...

As to the Bates "helping" people, perhaps they should focus first on helping their own family. Clearly, Mr. Bates is not earning enough to support the children he keeps producing. He needs to stop fooling around cutting branches off the occasional tree and go get a full time job that pays the bills.

It's one thing if you are disabled and cannot work. It's entirely another for a college-educated, able-bodied man with good job experience to purposely choose to make very little money yet have over a dozen children. He is very irresponsible.

So I say to Mr. Bates - go help your own family first, by getting a full time job that pays the bills!! I don't need any help from a man who mooches off his own kids, simply because he chooses to work cutting tree branches.

I've been supporting my small family for nearly 14 years, and intend to do whatever it takes to continue supporting them. That means I work hard. That means my son gets to keep any money he earns, because by gosh, he earned it! I would be deeply ashamed to take money from my son, when I am able to work hard and earn sufficient to support us. You sir, should be ashamed to mooch off your child when you could easily earn enough to support your family but choose not to.

sandi said...

Gil said in one of the shows that he can make more money in less time doing tree cutting as opposed to working for someone else.(whatever work he was doing bf,I would presume).but could he really? I mean,he would have other perks,like retirement and insurance,instead of having to rely on the free clinic,or making payments on dr and hospital bills.
As far as Lawson goes,he said his dad always paid him back,so IDK if Gil relies on him for more than just borrowing.

NotAMoocher said...

Gil Bates worked for Nabisco before quitting his job to do tree trimming. I rather doubt he earns more trimming trees now than he did working at Nabisco, plus he no longer has any benefits (such as health insurance for the family).

I also doubt Mr. Bates is paying Lawson back, since apparently he has to turn right around and borrow from him the following week, when Lawson goes out and buys groceries, etc. An occasional loan would be bad enough, but it appears that this is an ongoing, routine thing - Lawson buys groceries for the family.

So Gil is an underachiever, mooches off his own kid, and then is less than truthful to boot. I don't need help from a grifter like that one.

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Michigander1969 said...

Just a quick note about making money cutting tree branches. We have family and friends that have their own tree companies. They make around $250,000 a year. After business expenses, their personal income ends up being around $125,000 so yes Gil can make more money cutting tree branches than working at Nabisco. So sad that a much needed profession is looked down upon.

Isn't the national the median household income (not per person but per house) $47,000? There aren't many jobs that a person can do to support a family that large without having their own business.

Wampascat said...

He should have kept the Nabisco job and do tree trimming on the side. That would have been the prudent thing to do. He would have health insurance and wouldn't have to mooch off his son. He and his wife chose to have a huge family. He needs to do the extra work to support them.

londonbridges said...

Thanks Miggy, for volunteering to be our 'Nike' screamer during our naked dancing episode. I wondered who might come forward and sign on. LOL

I truly hope that the Bates family doesn't sign on for a regular show with TLC. If any of them happen to read this blog, please consider what has happened to the reality families in the past and present. Is it worth it, Gil and Kelly? JMHO.

Jac&Jil said...

Wondering How Zach Bates and Sara Reith's courtship is doing. If the courtship leads to an engagement/marriage, what is Zach's source of income to support a wife/family? Also, if Zach and Sara marry, will Sara still be able to travel and perform with her family's music group? Hoping someone can answer my questions.

Miggy said...

I thought I read on the Bates site that Zach planned to finish his online degree (this year?) and get a job before marrying Sarah. I don't remember if it said anything about what he planned to do.

In regards to Lawson, my parents payed all my university costs but when I finished they began charging me board. They felt that they had done their job as parents and that I, as a working adult, now had a responsibility to pay for my own food, electricity, contribute to rates, etc. I see no problem with Lawson, who apparently earns a good income, making a regular payment to his parents to cover the cost of his own costs. I have a problem with random payments because his parents haven't budgetted properly and can't afford to support the other children.

Willow said...

I have been wondering about Zach and Sara also. Do you suppose they will show something about the couple in their special on 03/27? That would be the most interesting to me. Great question about her traveling with her family. Their music is quite good, IMO. Also, I agree about the tree trimming business. It should be enough money, even for a large family; especially with male sons to help. I wonder if the problem is him traveling for speaking/preaching engagements a little too often. They probably had plenty of extra expenses with the remodel as well. Hopefully, the borrowing will not turn into a full-time/ongoing situation.

Ellie said...

I would much rather a show about the Bates than the Duggars. I would also much rather them do a show about the Bates than a spin off of the Duggars about Josh and Anna. I feel like the Bates are just a more cohesive family group than the Duggars, at least with what I've seen so far. They also seem more willing to do age appropriate outings (like it was their idea to send Erin and Michaela off to Chicago (which is why the Duggar girls got to go) in order to go to a seminar about music. If the Duggar girls wanted to do something like that without the Bates girls, I doubt it would happen unless they took along brotherly supervision.