Tuesday, February 14, 9 PM, Season 6, Episode 1

The Duggars are back! Watch as the family adds new life, planting trees, visits a cornmaze, and hits the speaking circuit. Later, an emotional moment occurs when Michelle and Jim Bob go in for a routine pregnancy check-up.

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100 comments:

ennvee said...

Hmmm....Comcast has now filled out the guide through the 14th. The 9:00 slot was TBA as recently as 7pm - it's 8:45pm now - and a quick check has Sorority Girls listed in BOTH the 8 and 9:00 timeslots. SG was listed in the 8:00 slot the entire time.

I think TLC might be testing the waters, as it were, to gauge what kind of response a floated announcement with no real information will fly in light of everything that's happened since they were last seen on TLC traipsing around Israel.

Sharla said...

So far the only place I've found the episode listed is on the TLC website.

ennvee said...

Yeah, that's the only place anyone on the internet has seen it. MHO, but it's pretty clear that if TLC weighs public opinion to the positive, they will air Jubilee's funeral. Unfortunately, it will get great ratings for Sweeps, but for all the wrong reasons, further polarizing the pro-Duggar crowd and the critics.

And if they air the Jubilee fiasco, TLC will lose the critics' ratings. I know that if I DVR an episode, I won't watch it until the following Sunday so it won't be counted in any sort of ratings tabulation. Or boycott it totally. About the only thing that could bring me back at this point is if Jim Bob has the stones to marry off one of his daughters, thereby ending the D&P show...unless she's engaged to Lawson Bates or a local boy so she's free to travel with her family on the contrived field trips and performances.

In a word...sigh...

ennvee said...

Uh oh, just saw a preview and it is indeed a Jubilee VSE. Michelle is shown looking despondent and Jim Bob consoles "We'll get through it."

For me, the boycott is on. I just can conscience showing that on Valentine's Day!

Reality TV Junkie said...

Finally! I was wondering when they would be back! Even though some things they do I don't agree with, I genuinely enjoy watching the show.

MCL said...

I saw the commercial about this episode last night during Four Weddings. Something about good times/bad times with the Duggars. They showed a clip from what looked like Jubilee's funeral.

WIllow said...

I saw a commercial for the new season beginning Feb. 14 last night - only once though, which I thought was odd.

Elverna Bradshaw said...

According to people who have seen the preview of this episode on TLC, it will feature the ultrasound and funeral. Gross. But not surprising.

ennvee said...

Yup. Jim Bob tells Michelle "I'm sorry" as she's lying there (sheet over her stomach, of course) during the ultrasound appt (that we knew TLC was taping since it was supposed to be the big "Jender" reveal.

And the "We'll get through this" was as they were walking away from the gravesite.

I really wish they could have edited the wedding today for the V-Day opening, since Duggars were everywhere (including Anna as matron of honor and Josh - wearing sunglasses at times - as her groomsman partner).

heavennoseven said...

TLC, really? Why do you need to see this. Anna`s miscarriage was handled so well. Why do we need to see this. Its wrong on so many levels.

I hope the Duggar girls never marry a Bates boy. A parent should never ask kids for money so they can keep having more.


I hope all the Duggars find true love and end up being happy in the end. I wonder if Anna is still all that happy with Josh. Or is Michelle still happy with Jim-Bob.

Sixpence never the richer said...

I hope that the Duggars (either by showing Jubilee drama or otherwise) will finally commit the straw that breaks the camel's back. I just want this dog and pony show gone already.

ennvee said...

It's all up on my guide now. Looks like a marathon will precede the VSE at 9 (or 6 for me, since I can watch the east coast feed on the west coast...for the time being, at least).

Tiffches said...

I believe this will be their shark episode. On the previews, it is obvious that they are showing Jubilee's funeral etc. For people who have been through this, it is a sad time. Not anything to make money. An announcement could have been made by Jimbob stating the death of Jubilee, but nothing else should be said. We have lost two grandbabies through miscarriage. One was when the doctor told them the baby had died, like with Michelle. It hurts and people cry. It is not entertainment. I can not and will not watch anything Duggar, even their frequent visits to talk shows.
I think they will excuse this by sayng it is real life, but they cross the line. Just like JimBob taking away his dad's dignity by rolling this poor man him out for a party. They seems to be teaching their children that money is the meaning of life.

EllaBeanie said...

While I am not surprised that they chose to put this, what in my opinion should be a PRIVATE FAMILY MOMENT, on tv, I am nonetheless unimpressed that they chose to do so.

This should have been a private family moment, and the kids should have been able to grieve in private. If Michelle and Jim Bob wanted to show the world how much they loved Jubilee and how sad they were, then that's fine, but leave the kids out of it. Furthermore, I don't think the public needs to see the ultrasound and appointment when they found out she miscarried (if the rumours are true).

Josh and Anna handled a miscarriage with complete privacy, simply stating that it happened and how they got through it. They didn't need to broadcast it on national tv. I really don't understand why Jim Bob and Michelle seem to see the need to sensationalize it.

Elvira said...

Anna's pregnancy that she miscarried was likely a "chemical pregnancy." The stick turned and a few days later she had a period/miscarriage. There was nothing to show for it and nothing to bury. Michelle had an actual fetus that was one week away from having to bury or have cremated by state law.

There was nothing in Anna's to make anything out of so I can't absolve Anna and Josh just yet since we don't know what they would do with a pregnancy ending at 19 weeks.

I still completely disagree with making an hour long episode over the death of a fetus, having a large funeral and inviting hundreds, making a professionally taped farewell from Michelle with political overtones, and even more gruesome and disturbing if shown, the ultrasound.

I'll never believe another word of Duggar "modesty" if they do that. They are not modest, they are arrogant famewhores if they do that.

ennvee said...

While I am not surprised that they chose to put this, what in my opinion should be a PRIVATE FAMILY MOMENT, on tv, I am nonetheless unimpressed that they chose to do so.

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What sticks in my craw is that the TLC cameras were already there to document the gender, but they STAYED with the Duggars and filmed that mess. BUT the Duggars ask the PUBLIC to respect their privacy during this difficult time?

What is wrong with this picture? They are consciously exploiting the death of this fetus for political cache with the "pro-life" crowd, and monetary gain for Jim Bob's coffers.

Lindy said...

I am unimpressed with Michelle and Jim Bob and TLC putting this whole Jubilee VSE on Valentines Day. Anna's sister, Priscilla, just got married, and I think it is much more appropriate to show a wedding than Jubilee.

MandySue said...

I am so disappointed but not surprised that TLC is showing this fiasco.

Of Jim Bob and Michelle believe they are encouraging people in similar situations. This just shows that they are all about the money.

If Josh could have figured out a way to get publicity from their miscarriage you know he would have been all over it.

Please please please let this be it

heavennoseven said...

I want to see Suzanna wedding more then any other wedding. However, I am sure Jim Bob won`t allow his girls to go to that. They can`t see someone whom rebeled from her family.

Stephanie said...

Comments saying Annas miscarriage was handled with dignity? I totally disagree. TLC filmcrews maybe weren't in town. Remember when Josh checked Annas pregnancy test then called the camera crew to inform her she was pregnant? So staged and even the producer said on camera that Josh is very tv/camera savvy. If they could have promoted that somehow you all know he would have.

I to have seen the commercial today for the first time. I hope the Hollywood style fetus funeral with the entire Duggar blessings performing their "music" really shows how famewhore they have become. No better than the Kardashians.

Ally said...

For anyone who hasn't seen/want to see the preview, here's a link to it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l12r_Ty8pD0&feature=player_embedded

Pippa said...

Well, I watched the link to the preview, and I cannot in my wildest dreams imagine agreeing to a camera crew in tow to film everything (for public consumption) regarding the loss of a child.

I just don't get it. And I will not be watching. Haven't watched in a very long time, actually.

Andrea said...

"I hope the Hollywood style fetus funeral with the entire Duggar blessings performing their "music" really shows how famewhore they have become. No better than the Kardashians." I have to totally disagree, no better than the Kardashian, they are 150 times worst. Jim Bob and Michelle are the lowest of the low. They exploit thier children to the worst degree.

tulip said...

ennvee wrote "I really wish they would have edited the wedding today for the V-Day opening..."

I agree-David & Priscilla's wedding should definitely have been the season opening episode, especially if it falls right on Valentine's Day. Unfortunately, all things Jubilee have been surrounded with so much controversy. I think there could be a tasteful way to bring closure with the situation and fans, but it seems like with an hour-long special and the way The Duggars go about it (season premier..on Valentine's Day..etc.) it will appear as if it's all about ratings, and just sensationalizes it that much more.

Softballfan said...

The Duggar's do not chose when the show is on. This is reality what happened in their life. I am sure they did not want this to happen. But, it did happen, and it IS a part of their life that affects them and how they act. Also, nobody ever said they filmed everything. I am sure some mourning was private. I do not see anything wrong with it. Yes, it will be sad, but many things on tv are sad. Even if it only helps some people, it still will help people that might not have other wised been helped.

Beedageeda said...

The wedding was just this weekend, right? I don't think they could have put together a 2/14 season premeire that quickly. But, sure, that would have been cute, I guess. Don't despair, we'll see it soon enough.

Anna looked a little baby-bumpy on Josh's instagram wedding pictures.

I just pray for those kids.

tulip said...

The Duggars DO have a contract with TLC/Discovery or whoever, however, they also DO have a say. Again, Jubilee...although very real, and sad...does not have to be dramatized to such an extent. IMO I really feel there is a better way to bring to light this reality and connect with fans, as well as others who have gone through the same thing. And, if not the very recent wedding of David & Priscilla, I'm sure there is other "material" that could have been used for the season opener.

Devil's Advocate said...

TLC certainly could put together a wedding special that soon - look how soon after Michael was born that we saw the birth episode. We know the film crew was at the wedding based on the web pics, but I'm betting it won't be a special unto itself. More likely just part of the 'regular' season episodes. Am betting the new Bates baby will be handled the same way, too.

heavennoseven said...

I hate how Michelle is saying I am sorry. I wonder if all miscarriages are blamed on woman.

tulip said...

I know some don't agree, but Anna really looks pregnant in the photos from Priscilla's wedding...the "goodbye sis" photo of her leaning over shows overly tight material stretched over a protruding midsection, like the dress may have been made a month or so prior, and now she had to squeeze into it. Maybe TLC wants to air the episode of Jubilee right away, since it might not be well received to announce Anna's pregnancy so close together...so they have to get a move on since Anna's babybump will be more than obvious!

Lindy said...

I think if TLC really wanted to, there would be a wedding episode. But I doubt Jim Bob and Michelle would have allowed that, given that would mean the attention would not be on them, but rather on two people getting married.

Jim Bob and Michelle are too addicted to the fame and popularity.

I am boycotting the Duggars from now on and will rely on this blog for feedback on the Jubilee episode.

Rainbow68 said...

The promo is touching, but I hope this will lead to a breakthrough. They need to move on from their childbearing years and just enjoy their kids, and now the grandkids. I know their suffering is genuine, but I still feel their pain was unnecessary. I sound clinical and unfeeling, but that's not the case. Michelle's body is worn out. She doesn't need to apologize. She needs to stop :(

Dar said...

I am having a lot of difficulty trying to understand how televising this miscarriage and funeral will be of any help to anyone. I am also having trouble in feeling any sympathy for Michelle or Jim Bob. I have seen how cold Michelle has been with her surviving "Blessings". It is beyond my comprehension how so very much emotion is prevalent for a child she really hadn't met. It is grandstanding at its very worse. I don't think I have seen this obvious exploitation on any other reality show. Poor little Josie didn't have a chance to really develop before her parents dragged her half-way round the world for the television cameras. Jordyn walks around that house looking lost most of the time. She is the one to whom a lot of love and emotion should be given. The Kardashians are like "Leave it to Beaver, in comparison.

The fact that the whole thing was televised is, in my opinion, obscene. It seems to me that money is the most important thing to these two people.

Allison said...

I hate how Michelle is saying I am sorry. I wonder if all miscarriages are blamed on woman.

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I'm pretty sure it's Jim Bob that says it in the preview, not Michelle.

Judy said...

I just can't believe they're going to be showing the ultrasound and funeral. Years ago, my husband and I were filmed for an hour long special on infertility. When they wanted to tape inappropriate things, we just said no. They would be mad -- "It's so expensive for us to hire film production crew, they're already here, we'll be sensitive" but we put our foot down.

tulip said...

Lindy said "I am boycotting the Duggars from now on and will rely on this blog for feedback..."

I too am boycotting!...Taking a break from all things Duggar. I'll continue to check in with the blog, most all the posts are so spot on. Just so disappointed that The Duggars have gone this far with "fame". As Rainbow68 said "The promo is touching, but I hope this will lead to a breakthrough." ...we can only hope...we shall see.

Mandy said...

As sad as I am about what happened with Jubilee, I am looking forward to the new episodes. Hopefully the Jubilee storyline will be quick and short and then they can focus on other things.

heavennoseven said...

I think that Anna may just not be able to keep the weight off or lose it with all that food she makes and the places Josh was eating at. I also don`t think they can to a public gym, so she might of lost some ponds. However, she isn`t toning.

Seriously? said...

"Biggest Premier EVER"?? They must be referring to His High and Holy Rotundness, Josh Duggar!

This show and these people are a laughing stock.

Seriously? said...

"then they can focus on other things."

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But WHAT 'other things'?? This is the Duggars afterall - same old, same old, with nary an original, creative, profound thought from the entire batch of them.

Bible and birthin': there you have it. The Duggar family is nothing more than that.

Alberta Rose said...

I am disappointed that TLC is going to show the episode about Jubilee on Valentine's Day. I had hoped it would be an episode about the weddings they were at. I'm not sure if I'll watch this episode. Just watching the trailer gave me flashbacks to the miscarriage my husband and I experienced in 1998.

As far as the description, Shaw cable simply shows February 14, "19 Kids and Counting Episode 1" which must be in reference to episode 1 of the new season.

Midge said...

I checked our Comcast listings, and they are describing the premiere episode like this: "New, 'Episode 1'(2012) Profiling the Duggar Clan as they welcome their newest addition." Hmmm... "newest addition?" It sounds as if this promo copy was written before Michelle lost the baby and no one bothered to change it. Evidently this episode was supposed to have aired shortly after Michelle gave birth.

londonbridges said...

I am totally disgusted that the Jubilee loss and subsequent funeral is to be aired by TLC. As I watched the trailer, I too, was taken back to our miscarriage. I fail to understand how this episode will encourage others.

IMHO, a loss of a pregnancy should be a personal and private experience, shared by the parents, family, and close friends. What I believe will be another Duggar dog and pony show is the reason I will not view any Duggar show in the future.

Alyssa said...

Whatever you feelings are for the Duggars, you have to admit seeing Michelle (and any mothers) reaction to that news it heartbreaking.

ennvee said...

I checked our Comcast listings, and they are describing the premiere episode like this: "New, 'Episode 1'(2012) Profiling the Duggar Clan as they welcome their newest addition." Hmmm... "newest addition?" It sounds as if this promo copy was written before Michelle lost the baby and no one bothered to change it. Evidently this episode was supposed to have aired shortly after Michelle gave birth.

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I have Comcast and that same, strange listing. However, even that's wrong since Michelle miscarried in early December at 19 weeks' gestation (let's say 20 to make the math easier). That's only 5 months along, so she still had four full months to go, which made her due sometime around Easter (early April). At best, it was going to be a May Sweeps #20 baby extravaganza.

Comcast really needs to change that listing, which, IMO, becomes more morbid every time I see it.

Elverna Bradshaw said...

IMO it would be heartbreaking IF she wanted another child for the right reasons* instead of it being another addition to her and JimBob's quiver in some weird kind of baby race (with the Bateses and other QF families).

(*Why do I think it's not the "right reasons"? Well, if she had anything to do with these children after they are weaned in 6 months' time after birth, I might have a different opinion.)

londonbridges said...

I agree that as a mother (who has miscarried) I felt Michelle's reaction as heartbreaking. That is where I draw the proverbial line. My reaction of finding out my loss was in private. The Duggars' loss is going to be viewed by perhaps a million plus. I really believe nothing the Duggars experience has been kept private, nor will be as long as the $$$ keeps rolling in.

Alberta Rose said...

checked our Comcast listings, and they are describing the premiere episode like this: "New, 'Episode 1'(2012) Profiling the Duggar Clan as they welcome their newest addition." Hmmm... "newest addition?" It sounds as if this promo copy was written before Michelle lost the baby and no one bothered to change it. Evidently this episode was supposed to have aired shortly after Michelle gave birth.

LOL! Change Comcast to Shaw and word for word that's what Shaw's been saying since it was 17 Kids and Counting.

That's the only LOL about the upcoming episode. I've clicked on "Do not record". If I was still capable of bearing a child, or if I hadn't had a miscarriage, I would probably watch it. I don't think my son will get anything out of it, so there isn't any point in recording it.

Vera said...

I just wish she showed that much raw emotion towards her other "blessings." For instance...when Jason fell into the Orchestra Pit.

Sharla said...

Michelle was due the end of April and possibly the first of May. They said when they found out she was 19 weeks. My daughter turned 20 weeks on Sunday of that same week and is due April 23. Thankfully she had her anatomy scan the day before the Duggar announcement.

I'm not sure about the cable companies and where they pick up the data for the episode blurbs since it's almost never identical to what TLC posts and can vary among the different providers.

Seriously? said...

"Whatever you feelings are for the Duggars, you have to admit seeing Michelle (and any mothers) reaction to that news it heartbreaking."

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EXCEPT that the Duggars exploit this and EVERY OTHER personal, private drama for TLC ratings and $$$, which is obscene, especially for those who go on so about their supposed saintliness.

Also, once birthed all the Duggar 'blessings' are pawned off on older daughters, so hard for me to invest much emotion into Michelle Duggar's alleged maternal love and pain from loss of her 21st (are we counting Caleb these days?)pregnancy.

The Duggars are all for show (& $). I wish they'd close their bible AND their mouths and just go permanently away. Go to Gosselin Land - I will miss the Duggars every bit as much as I miss Kate Gosselin.

imaamy said...

Sharla that is an eerie coincidence but congrats to you and your daughter's family:)

Dee said...

I echo the disappointment in TLC that others have expressed. A miscarriage should be a private family matter and not filmed and exploited for all the world to see so that JimBob can make more of the almighty dollar. The Duggars have jumped the shark long ago and it's time to pull the plug on this craze-fest.

LilBit0318 said...

Yup...This stuff with the cable company's listings for the episode is kinda crazy! My on-screen guide with Time Warner updated yesterday with the listings for 2/14 & it showed the skiing episode (Which aired, I think, around the beginning of this past summer.) in that time slot. It's updated now to show that it'll be a new episode, but there's no episode synopsis. And it shows the original air date as 02/21/12. Plus, Time Warner hasn't updated their online listings yet. Still shows the skiing episode. *LOL* Methinks TLC did some last minute scrambling to get this episode/season ready to go! Oh...And according to an article on People Magazine's website about the Bates' new baby, "...the Bates family will have their own show, a one-hour special airing March 27 on TLC after the 19 Kids and Counting season finale." So yeah...Short season for the Duggars this time. Possibly the last?

mom in texas said...

So we are getting a "very special" Jubilee episode? I just checked my cable listing and although the description was vague, it leads me to believe the description will be about the miscarriage. Any ideas?

mom in texas said...

Ok so I was unable to watch the promo video before I posted my last comment but now I have seen it and it does look like they are airing the miscarriage. Having suffered the lost of my first child who was born very premature at 5 and 1/2 months, I can truly understand the heartache this causes. However, I can not understand airing it for all the world to see. All I wanted at that time was privacy to grief. But I know everyone grieves differently. Oh,and I am also not a "reality tv star". I can only hope this is handled with dignity but having already saw a clip of Michelle on the examination table crying with a camera stuck in her face (remind you of any other situation, Jason falling), I can already see that it won't be. Let's just hope those who watch won't be subjected to seeing the fetus photos.

Also I see this season will be pretty short, leading up to a special on the Bates. So does this mean the Duggars are bidding us a final farewell and the Bates will pick up where the Duggars leave off? I wonder will we see the same change in Gil and Kelly as we did in Jim Bob and Michelle?

LilBit0318 said...

So...Update on Time Warner's TV listings. The on-screen guide now has an episode synopsis that says, "The family adds new life planting trees, visits a corn maze and hits the speaking circuit; Jim Bob & Michelle go in for a routine pregnancy check-up." Not sure if they honestly think there's anyone who doesn't know what happened at that check-up, or if maybe the miscarriage/funeral won't be as big a part of the episode as we think.

MayDay said...

I am not a fan of TLC's choices of shows and what they film. However, when Jen and Bill The Little Couple's surrogate miscarried, TLC black screened with a statement and then filmed Jen and Bill talking about the miscarriage. This was done in a classy and respectful way to share the news and disappointment about the Arnold/Klien baby. I am certain that this is the way Jen and Bill wanted it, as all their shows are done in a meaningful and not greedy fashion. The Duggars are choosing to show the miscarriage and funeral for sympathy and profit. It is not like it was a live show when they found out Michelle had miscarried. They had plenty of time to work with TLC to edit and still get their story across to the viewers. What a shame that they have to exploit an unborn child.

londonbridges said...

I totally agree with MayDay. I give kudos to Jen and Bill for the way they chose to announce the pregnancy loss. Shame on JimBob and Michelle for profiting from the loss of a pregnancy and subsequent funeral, etc. JMHO

Alberta Rose said...

So...Update on Time Warner's TV listings. The on-screen guide now has an episode synopsis that says, "The family adds new life planting trees, visits a corn maze and hits the speaking circuit; Jim Bob & Michelle go in for a routine pregnancy check-up."

That's similiar to what Shaw Cable's listing are. Based on that, I am going to record and watch the show.

Use a name or risk rejection said...

Publicizing the ultrasound and the funeral is not only about money. It is also about furthering their anti-abortion agenda. Since they believe life begins at conception, and since they are anti-choice, I am confident that they would want to publicize a funeral for any fetus that died the day after conception, if possible. The only thing that DOESN'T surprise me is that the Duggar parents don't insist that the show be called "20 Kids and Counting." After all, they do believe they now have 20 kids (one of whom has died), right??? In fact, I'm actually surprised it's not called "21 Kids and Counting," to include the miscarriage from many years ago. And I'm not kidding about this.

Seriously? said...

Yeah, yeah, yeah... we know: you're televising the miscarriage to 'ENCOURAGE' others.

Right.

(Pay no attention to those TLC $ coming your way for exploiting each and every personal, private family moment for tv consumption.)

How do we spell hypocrit? Oh yeah! "D-u-g-g-a-r".....

ennvee said...

Okay, I caved once I figured out from the most recent previews that it wasn't going to be THE ultrasound.

Interesting that she's still seeing Sarver and liked what Sarver had to say about Michelle's risks, which is in line with every doctor I've heard weigh in on her long list of risk factors.

Even when they couldn't find the heartbeat, she was only 13 weeks, so unless one can carry around a deceased fetus for 6 weeks (sacasem), the commercial teaser during the show was an obvious red herring. Even so, I wonder how many people actually bought it all.

The rest? Boring re-hash. They've planted stuff that dies before; this time the stuff if merely expensive and gives JimBob a chance to act like an overgrown child with his backhoe and other toys.

Heck, we've even seen a corn maze; I remember Johannah's partner losing her in the middle of the thing and she was in tears. It might have been Jenny, who went through that stage where everything terrified her, but I'm remembering it as Hannie, since it was out of character for her.

At any rate, it's been done. And yet again, Amy had to put her face front and center. Seriously, what 25 year old would voluntarily go to that place, unless they had a 5-7 year old kid? I feel for the older girls, who are there to do their parents' job, because as we saw with Jim Bob home alone with the young 'uns, the parents are incapable of doing it.

Gothard's 49 Character Qualities make another appearance. She might want to think about handing one of those to her oldest son. Rules and guilt. I feel so sorry for those girls.

It looks like they're going to drag out the Jubilee drama until the end of this run; my guide is presently down, but next week's shows don't even feature Space Camp, which was taped even before the 10/26 date on Michelle's ultrasound.

ennvee said...

This is copied from a friend who did some detective work and was able to read the flyers on the table at Michelle's Young Wives' luncheon. I'm surprised Gothard allowed this to be printed, but this stuff is at the core of the legalistic, paternalistic brand of Christianity to which the Duggars obviously (since Michelle is propagating it) subscribe:

Seven Basic Needs of a Husband

1. A husband needs a wife who respects him as a man.

How does a wife destroy her husband's manliness?

A. By expecting him to know what protection you need.
Physical
Spiritual
(2 more that are illegible)

Tell your husband how he can protect you.

B. By being financially independent

(2 illegible items)

Center your work and ministry in your home.

C. By giving greater loyalty to outside leadership.
1. Pastor and Church leaders
2. Men and Women bible teachers.
3. Relatives and friends

Ask your husband spiritual questions (See 1 Corinithans 14:15)

D. By resisting his decisions in your spirit.

(2 items illegible)

Learn to wisely appeal to your husband

E. By resisting physical affection

(ennvee's note: This one's the big guilt kicker for women, IMO)

This is the independence crushing (sic) of a man's spirit
A wife's godliness is a powerful guard against a husband's abuse

(ennvee's note: Gothard said this almost verbatim at Priscilla Keller's wedding)

Learn the power of prayer based on scripture (Some verse in James)

F. By taking matters into your own hands

(2 illegible)

Do not become your husband's critic (frame cut off)
and give him reason to fail.

ennvee: I have no words for this, especially on Valentine's Day...how romantic. /sarcasm

Dar said...

I am no fashion expert, but I think some hair stylist should visit those girls with a good sharp pair of scissors. Those hairdos certainly do not flatter their lovely faces. Nice to see TLC reads these blogs. Imagine, planting fruit trees. I am pretty sure someone suggested the Duggars could plant a lot of their own fruit and vegetables.

Can someone tell me what, exactly, has the Today show invested in this family. Why do they enable them? Is there no other news going on around the world. If one of them is pregnant, they are on the show. In my opinion, Michelle's miscarriage was unfortunate, but is it necessary to exploit it on National television?

There is another tragedy at home. There are bright young adults hanging around the family home assuming the responsibility for the "blessings" and the housework for their parents. Michelle is totally obsessed with pregnancy. I actually find it somewhat disturbing. She is taking vitamins, exercising, resting and generally looking after herself while all around her are 19 children to whom she has given birth. Her detachment is mind boggling. I think it is amusing how she will make speech after speech, teaching "young people" how to raise children when hers are being raised by their siblings.

Anonymous said...

Wait a sec... Did I hear Dr. Sarver correctly last night? Did she say that everyone has a right to make their own decisions?? Does that mean that (gasp), the Duggars go to a doctor who is Pro-Choice?? Or at least not 1000% Pro-Life?

One observation I've had before with regard to Gothard, is that the Duggars must not follow him 100% since I think I read that one of his "things" is that babies should not be born at hospitals and nearly all of Michelle's kids have been born at hospitals. I wonder what they say at ATI when they find that out?

londonbridges said...

I am just so stunned by ennvee's post. While I thought I understood Gothard and his ilk, I had very little understanding at all.

'A wife's godliness is a powerful guard against a husband's abuse'. A wife can be the godliest, obedient, respectful woman and it protects her not one iota from abuse. What a load of hog-wash. JMHO. Thanks for the info ennvee BTW.

Stephanie said...

I enjoyed Jimbob complaining about how it takes 20 minutes to get his family downstairs for a family meeting. He said Duggar Time has now happened to him.
How does it feel Jimbob to have others make you wait for them? I have always thought Duggar Time to be rude and selfish. He is getting a taste of his own medicine and I don't think he liked it but he didn't seem to make a connection. I think production was asking him about it be cause they noticed.
The Picture of the Day of Today Show website was priceless. I would love to hear how that introduction went. Did they get introduced? I don't think Jimbob or Michelle would be rude to the swimsuit model however he really looked uncomfortable in the photo. When they met Bill Clinton there were photos of the greeting. Just wonderding. She is probably a nice respectable girl that they consider "lost" just like the rest of us that need saving.

Alberta Rose said...

I admire the Duggars for their faith in God. Even people who have green thumbs would have difficulty getting something to grow on that land. Now I know why Jim Bob managed to get that much land dirt cheap. It is just that, cheap dirt that is lousy for growing things.

I had to laugh at Jim Bob trying to catch some more sleep instead of being the parent in charge. Next time my husband is reluctant to get out of bed, I'll tell him if Michelle Duggar can expect her husband to be in charge of a bunch of kids under the age of 11, I'm not asking much for him to cope with one.

'A wife's godliness is a powerful guard against a husband's abuse'. A wife can be the godliest, obedient, respectful woman and it protects her not one iota from abuse. What a load of hog-wash. JMHO.

My husband had been verbally, mentally, emotionally and financially abusive to me for many years. By the end of Season 1 which was 17 Kids & Counting, my husband and I were seeing a Christian marriage counsellor. The show was a catalyst for making changes to how we were running our marriage. Through counselling and through Christian group therapy, the abuse came to an end. There are also times when I've told my husband "Michelle Duggar was my inspiration".

As for Dr. Sarver's comment, she wouldn't be the Duggar's OB unless she believed that women have the freedom to choose how many children they can have and at what age they can bear. Those who truly believe in freedom of choice understand it isn't about accesible abortion and birth control, it's about women choosing to have none, one or many, to use the pill, IUD, Natural Family Planning or leaving it in God's hands.

mom in texas said...

I expected more out of this episode but I guess it was a teaser for the season.

Jim Bob can not possibly still be that clueless after all these years as to how to care for his daughters, wait, yes he could. Watching him fix the girls hair and dress them was hilarious but telling. He all but admitted he won't allow the older girls to offically leave the house until the youngest four are able to care for themselves.

Josie is healthy, I see. She is just as wild and unruly as the rest of the bunch. She is no longer the fragile doll that she used to be as we see her being man handled by all her brothers and sisters. But I also have to remember Michelle was still pregnant with Jubilee at the time so the detaching from Josie had began.

The corn maze looked fun. The trees will make a nice addition to the land if they are cared for properly.

SupernaturalSlayer said...

Hi, I started visiting this site when Jordyn was born. I had The television on while I was washing dishes. I was listening but not watching. Did JimBob Ask Johannah to watch Josie and Jordyn while he changed Jennifer? wasn't their an child older than Johannah around? I thought he was watching some of the boys as well. I've been worried about Jennifer's speech for a couple of years now, and now I think I'm beginning to worry about Jordyn. Other than Johannah I couldn't understand what the other little girls said.

SupernaturalImpala

Wondering?? said...

If the Duggars are so convinced that life begins at conception and that abortion is murder, I wonder if they consider the use of condoms to be kidnapping??

imaamy said...

Watching on DVR now and what an appropriate shirt for Jim Bob: Hogs. Gut looking bigger and bigger.

Now good for sweet Michelle because if I need my husband's help and he sleeps and extra hour? I wouldn't be so nice about it and we only have 3 kids!

ennvee said...

There were a few kids older than Johannah around. However, they were boys and changing your 4 year old sister's diaper is considered defrauding to even 7 year old Jackson.

As for the abuse thing, it only stops if the abuser is WILLING. It doesn't matter whether they are Christian, Muslim or atheists.

At any rate, below is the genesis of the list that Michelle passed out at the meeting. What she gives out, along with the 49 Character Qualities, which I saw her waving around during her speech, are watered-down to look attractive to new-comers. The link is Gothard Law, which is biblically twisted to make all marital problems or failing of the husband the wife's fault. Including abuse.

http://ati.iblp.org/ati/supportlink/kb/questions/99/

Frankly, this stuff is dangerous and sets women back about a century. But reading both the flyer and the link expose how Gothard can make it look attractive to young wives or new Christians who don't know if they're doing it "right." Kind of like how cults suck people in.

ANNA said...

anyone think Michelle looked different in last night episode? I cant put my finger on exactly what, something around the eyes? Her eyes just looked different to me. JimBob laying in bed while everyone else was up shows what a lazy schlep he is. His older daughters take care of the little ones so he can sleep late? And Michelle coming into the bedroom and babytalking to him about how its late and she woke him up before and he went back to sleep and yaddayadda. gag me. King JimBob needs a hard kick in the a**. wish I could give it to him. Michelle sure never will!

Sharla said...

1.499 million viewers last night. Not very good for the first of a new season. The episode was on the boring side though.

heavennoseven said...

Really? How old is Johannah 6? She should watch the siblings, How Sad.

Jim Bob didn`t wanna get out of bed. I guess that's where Josh learned it from.


I feel so bad for the girls in that family.

Krissy said...

I TOTALLY noticed Michelle looked different last night, I'm so glad I'm not the only one. If she wasn't pregnant I would swear on a stack of Bibles that she had either Botox or a brow lift done. Her eyes looked tighter and more lifted than in years past.

I think TLC and the Duggars are scraping the bottom of the barrell for filler material in order to create an entire season that will end with the ratings sweep of the Jubilee tragedy. This episode was so boring I could barely make it through. Kids doing projects with Dad. Toddlers running amok. Visit to a farm. Haven't we seen all this a thousand times before?

Also I know this sounds mean, but Anna seriously needs to ditch the form fitting tops until she loses that pregnancy gut. I can't believe a couple so young is so heavy and out of shape. Maybe Josh can wrangle a free elliptical in a product placement deal or something.

Krissy said...

I forgot to mention in my original post:

Did anyone get the vibe that despite what Dr. Sarver was saying about not judging others, she in fact didn't seem too thrilled about the latest pregnancy? She seemed a little cool and distant towards JimBob and Michelle.

rcadra2 said...

I thought Michelle looked different too, something about her eyes. If you look at the photos from the Today show, you can notice it. At first I thought maybe she was tired from being on the road, and camouflaged her face with extra make-up. But then I thought "Michelle Duggar - overtired?" Nahhhhh. It doesn't go together.

Vera said...

So they have a four year old that is still in diapers? I wonder when her sister-mom is going to get around to potty training her.

Vera said...

"So often in society babies are looked upon as a problem, trial or responsibility, but God says babies are a blessing. We do not believe that babies are a bother, a headache, or a financial drainer or a career interrupter…we love babies!" - Michelle Duggar

I guess not when you are getting a TLC paycheck and your older daughters are raising your blessings for you.

The holier-than-thou attitude towards a society they are hardly in touch with...grrrr...talk about a throne of moral superiority...

rcadra2 said...

Here's what I noticed about Michelle - her eyelids look more defined. I don't know much about botox or other procedures, but the mid-life sagging above the eyelids seems to have vanished.

I am also wondering if they hired a PR person to make them more likeable. They seemed to be less offensive than usual on last night's show, but an ocasional blooper would sneak out. Like Jim Bob's classic "babysitting" comment: "I haven't had to watch the little ones by MYSELF for a couple of years now."

And it seems like Josh has subverted the PR filter with his Instagram account, as evidenced in his doofy, narrow-minded comments and observations.

Matt said...

This episode left a really bad taste in my mouth. The way they kept teasing not being able to find the heartbeat and then finally finding it at the end. Just seemed really wrong in light of what happened to the baby.

It really is all about drama and ratings with this family and it just sickens me. It make me sick to my stomach the way they are dramatizing the loss of a child.

I've lost the last shred of respect I had for this family and will never watch again.

mom in texas said...

When Jim Bob asked Johannah to watch the others while he changed Jennifer he meant her clothes,not a diaper.Jim Bob got a really mismatched outfit out for her to wear and he was going to put it on her.Although Johannnah shouldn't be asked to keep an eye on sibilings, the comment is being misinterpreted.

imaamy said...

Interesting, I found Jim Bob more annoying than usual. His grammar was just awful, "That ain't lookin' too good" among other gems and going on about the fruit trees when he admitted everything they plant dies, the nursery guys, sent because they spent so much money on the trees, just had shovels and he had big machines. As usual he talked over the person at the nursery...I think they actually play up the hick part for the audience!

Dar said...

All that heavy machinery Jim Bob has. Even if he bought it second hand, it cost a "pretty Penny". The children would be better served if they purchased proper beds and bedding for them. Make a few new bedrooms so the older girls can have a little privacy and are able to get some time away from their "charges". Of course that won't happen, because Jim Bob needs his toys and neither Michelle nor Jim Bob want to be awaken in the night by the children they brought into the world.

I, personally, think it is unfortunate that Michelle is asked to preach or teach young girls. I don't even want to imagine a world where every woman behaved like Michelle. It would be like the "Stepford Wives. It is as if women have not progressed since the Victorian age. To think that if something happened to Jim Bob that "Josh" would be the "leader" is unimaginable.

Michelle's eyes were almost manic on that elliptical. I guess it is somewhat sad to see how desperate she is to be pregnant.

ennvee said...

Michelle looked awful last weekend at the CPAC conference and on the Today Show. Her forehead moves and she has visible, deep crow's feet.

No eye job there.

What I DID notice that Hannie (I believe) changed her shirt during the wrestling scene with the other girls on the couch. Jenny also suddenly lost and gained a tacky flower bow. Since they were trying to show a continuous scene of Daddy on Couch with Little Girls While Big Girl Mommies are All Out, that was piss poor editing, guys.

Rachel HM said...

WHen they could not find the heartbeat initially, Michelle kept glancing at the camera, like she watend it to leave. I doubt she really has any say in this matter, and it is all up to Jim Bob. I wonder if she wanted the cameras around for any of the Jubilee mess?

Alberta Rose said...

It was hard watching Michelle doing and saying all the "look at me, look at all the things I'm doing right". I also felt sort of mad about the editing they did. I was so nervous, I forgot what I'd learned from the Certified Nurse Mmidwifes and got sucked into the drama. Depending on the baby's position and maternal size, the Doppler might not always pick up the heartbeat in the 12-18 week range. Or to put it another way, if you've got perfect childbearing hips, there's plenty of room for baby to move around, LOL!

Melinda said...

Does anyone know where I can watch this episode? I have no directv this month and would like to see it... Thanks!!!

Alberta Rose said...

I find that after about a week, someone usually posts the episode on YouTube. Depending on the length of the episode, it might be divided into 2 or 3 parts.

Just Me said...

I thought this article summed up the first episode nicely. I also wonder, is the author a reader/contributor of this blog?

http://news.yahoo.com/19-kids-counting-gets-stranger-sadder-154242696.html

Leah said...

IMO, They didn't seem all that concerned when Dr sarver couldn't find a heartbeat. In fact, I initially had that part on mute and had no idea that there was even a problem with the heartbeat until I re watched it. Their faces and eyes reveal almost no concern or emotion during those few "very scary" moments.

I think it is extremely creepy to watch an episode about Michelle's pregnancy knowing that she miscarried. It's weird and tacky. It cheapens the death of the child. We are really expected to continue on with this season, knowing that Jubilees miscarriage is being used as BAIT to drag out another season of episodes. Beyond sick. The way this whole thing has been handled is flying in the face of the sanctity of life. It should not be used as a suspenseful plot in a reality TV show.

Dar said...

They say they consider every pregnancy a blessing and then they exploit a miscarriage for the cameras. It does cheapen the short time of the existence of the little fetus.

TLC give this existence some respect and don't allow it to be exploited for any political agenda. Show some class. Don't drag it out for weeks. We all know what the outcome will be and don't need to see it and all the attendant showcase that followed. I'm sorry, but that is how I see it. If it were kept private, I would have more respect. I also wonder how the younger children are being affected. They saw poor little Josie in the N.I.C.U., they knew that the health and life of their mother was in jeopardy and now a miscarriage. The picture and the funeral must be pretty scary for them.

Michelle seems to have lost a little thread of reality, in what I have observed. The newest baby and the preparation for a baby is of utmost importance. The surviving children are just part of a collection. JMHO

Alberta Rose said...

I think it is extremely creepy to watch an episode about Michelle's pregnancy knowing that she miscarried. It's weird and tacky. It cheapens the death of the child. We are really expected to continue on with this season, knowing that Jubilees miscarriage is being used as BAIT to drag out another season of episodes. Beyond sick. The way this whole thing has been handled is flying in the face of the sanctity of life. It should not be used as a suspenseful plot in a reality TV show.

I agree. I usually am quick to jump in and defend the Duggars or come up with a rationalization for why they allow the footage they do. This time I have nothing to offer.

Wampascat said...

What I find most disturbing is the manic,obsessive way we see Michelle trying to hold on to this pregnancy. Was she blamed for Josie's early birth in some way? Sadder still is her refusal to come to grips with the fact that her baby making days are over. It's time for her to start "raising" her blessings and enjoy her grandchildren. She is no different than any other woman entering a new season of life. I truly think she may need some sort of counseling to help her understand her life isn't over just because the baby factory is closed. But,I'm sure counseling is frowned upon in their religion.

SmokeyKitty said...

Highlights of this episode: The shot of Michelle and Anna dressed in identical pregnancy clothes and Michelle using especially bad grammar.

Sherry said...

I heard them say they planted Bradford Pear trees. I'm sorry, but they wont be picking any fruit off of those. They are ornamentals. They flower in the spring, and turn a pretty red in the fall, but no fruit. Are they they that dumb, or did they think they were fooling everybody into thinking they were actually going to harvest some of their own fruit?

Elverna Bradshaw said...

What Sherry said about Bradford pears is totally correct...they are ornamental (and also don't stand up too well to tornados). BUT that's probably not a concern because I would be surprised if more than one or two of all of those trees survived due to how they were planted. The holes (and dirt put into the holes) were insufficient to promote growth, and their native soil looks to be like a rock.