Tues, May 11, Duggars at the Hospital

The Duggars clean up well! Jim Bob and a few of the Duggar kids head back to their home in Springdale, AR for some spring cleaning in preparation for Josie's homecoming. But when she has a setback, the family must reunite in Little Rock once again.

30 minutes

65 comments:

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the older girls are the duggar kids who came.

Cyn said...

LOL I wish I could see JimBob cleaning house...

Anonymous said...

We will probably see more of the same. We'll see the boys running around, possibly holding a sponge or bucket, but as far as USING the sponge, that would be the girls job. The girls do the work, while supervising the boys mimicking the girls who are doing the work!

Anonymous said...

The boys do menial housework type chores too - anyone notice the little boy vacuuming on last night's episode?

Anonymous said...

Haven't we seen many episodes like this?

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I think the baby still is in the hospital according to last night show.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

Josie just hit a six pound milestone:

http://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/TV/2010/05/10/Josie-Duggar-reaches-6-pound-milestone/UPI-31311273539907/

maynardsmom said...

Are any finding this whole thing boring? I find it troubling. They can live their lives as they see fit but we need to remember tlc pays for what we see. It is time for the Duggars to gracefully return to their real life. I will certainly wish them well.

Anonymous said...

If I were Jim-Bob I would take the littlest kids and maybe some older ones to help out. Clear out the house and give Josie a break!

Anonymous said...

Again, going home to clean. Do any of us really care about how clean the Duggar house is?

OhMyWord said...

Oh my heavens. I cannot believe they exploited Jossie and the 911 call. That is horrible, completely low of TLC AND the Duggars.

Thats the last straw for me, The Duggars are no different than any other reality show, they just want the money and will exploit there children no matter what the cost.

That is just ridiculous!

Hannah said...

The seat Mack was sitting on says did not seam safe on top of that bench. If the bench broke or the seat fall back, she could of been hurt.


I also didnt think the young kids using the power lawn mowers was safe ethier.

I am sick of Josh and the car lot. Does he do any housework to help Anna?

Poor Jill. You could tell she was crying during the 911 call. She is such a sweet and strong girl. I would of not been able to keep cool in her place.

BioEngr said...

Did I see Mackynzie's ears pierced? When they showed Anna and Josh at home before the it looked almost like she had two piercings! And when Anna said Joshie? Ugh.
Did they really need to broadcast the 911 call? And why is Jill the only one involved, and not Jim Bob? Or was he at home with the other kids?

grannyD said...

After seeing the show tonight I wonder if JimBob took some of the kids back to clean as a way of having less people in the house when Josie first came home. This actually could have benefited her without some of the noise. As for the setback...the Drs. had already told them to anticipate this. Filming live births under heavy lights happens daily....as you can see by all the birth shows on TLC and the Discovery channel...so child neglect can't figure into that..theirs was no different.
I did feel they shouldn't have included the 911 call..they wasn't neccessary to the story line.

Anonymous said...

Does Michelle look pregnant to anyone else besides me?

Anonymous said...

A word of warning about those baby headbands with the large flowers. My daughter's friend has a baby girl a little older than Mackynsie. She was wearing one of those headbands and began to cough and choke. They could not tell what was wrong but she was definitely having trouble breathing. They got her to the hospital and the MD removed one of the petals from that flower from the baby's mouth. She had either pulled it off or it fell off and she put in in her little mouth. I've never cared for any type of headband and I thought those huge ones were particularly obnoxious, but I never realized they could be dangerous too.

Jess C said...

Hannah, I thought the same thing about that seat on the piano bench, I just about had a heart attack!

That 911 call broke my heart. Jill is so incredibly sweet and you can tell the poor girl was in deep distress. She was trying to hold it together, and I just felt terrible for her. They absolutely should not have included that- it was just wrong.

The fact that Josie is going through all of this is really starting to sadden me. I think the show should take a break, even go off the air and the focus should be on privacy and time with Josie and getting her well. I just feel like after seeing every little precious moment of her caught on camera, something bad happening to her would be TOO much. While she is much better than she started, she is definitely anything but out of the woods. This family, especially Michelle needs time to heal from all of this emotionally. It's a taxing thing, and can't be as easy as they are trying to portray.

Anonymous said...

I think Jimbob was at home with the others.

Yes. she does have her ears peirced. I think its just one but a big earring.

vicka said...

aggie mom:
duggar children do not need work permits according to Arkansas law. they are not considered performers because they are on a "reality" show. however, when the laws were written there was no such thing as "reality" shows. the law hasn't caught up to the media development. years from now we are going to be reading about all these unpaid, unprotected children the way we can read today about child performers in the 30's, 40's and 50's. its very sad imo.

abbra said...

After watching tonights new Duggar Episode I have come to the conclusion that Michelle is training Jill to take over mommy duties caring for Josie. Michelle is out of line. That little baby needs its mama not big sister, because of the fragile condition she is in. Josie doesn't look very healthy and to let a premmie into an environment where she is going to be mauled by her young brothers and sisters and all their germs...well not healthy at all.
I am disgusted with Michelle and JB.

Anonymous said...

In a way I feel better that Josie didn't come back home quickly. At least it seems that she developed an additional medical problem rather than her family simply couldn't handle her or did something wrong. But I do have to wonder what they think when they put that hideous flower thing on her when she's just out of the NICU and simply being at home. Do they never have any thought for the comfort of the infants?

babysteps said...

So Josie went back to the hospital because of a blockage in her intestines. She is now back on a feeding tube. She definitely was released too early especially since she still needed oxygen. I wonder if the Duggars pushed for her release in order to film the Mother's Day special. I sure hope not.

I love how the little kids greeted Jim Bob and Jana when they got back to Little Rock. They really are a close family that loves each other. Justin said they were in Springdale for homeschooling testing. I sure wish they had filmed that and given us a hint of their grades. I really wonder how well they are all doing with schooling since they have so many interruptions through the year.

Anonymous said...

Other than the updates on Josie (which,yet again,she was exploited), this was just another boring episode.Who cares about the boring old car lot,balloons on cars and Josh's cousin getting towed?? I mean really?

Sharla said...

Please remember we're here to talk about the TV show not each others' opinions.

Anonymous said...

Sad. Jill, the sistermom takes control, calls 911, holds her sister/daughter. Michelle talks babytalk.

The whole show is a trainwreck now. I really hope this is it and the show goes off the air. I am sick of the exploitation of a poor innocent and very sick infant.

bookworm said...

I was shocked, although I should know better by now, that there were no books on the bookshelves at Josh and Anna's house.

Apparently the only book they read is the Bible.

Anonymous said...

I am an RN. I am extremely distressed that the Duggar's very fragile neonate is being filmed with all the noise (including JB's SUV horn), bright lights and so forth for money. One of the main things we nurses do is to try to create a nurturing environment above all else. Preemies have immature nervous systems as well as all other body systems. They still need to develop outside the womb in as close a manner as they would have if they had been full term.

I have worked in NICU and step down units with preemies. One of the MAIN causative factors for a preemie to develop severe bowel problems such as something serious enough to require enemas every 6 hours) is a LOWERED BODY TEMPERATURE.
NECF and bowel perforations can also ve caused by a dip in body temperature, which stops their bowel motility due to decreased blood flow.

This causes me to wonder what exactly Michelle did with Josie while she was home. I've only seen her sitting in her car seat in the floor. Did she have her temperature checked often? Was she warm and snggly enough? Was she cuddled or left alone with the O2 and monitors out of fear or ignorance or both? How did she feed when she was home?

I'm not sure the Duggars caused whatever sent Josie back to the hospital due to neglect...
But, I'm also not sure this baby will live long enough with them in their environment and with their hands off approach to child rearing and baby care ( except breast feeding) for Josie to grow up at all.

winsomeone said...

Where does Josh's cousin come from? I thought Jim Bob just had the one sister, and Amy as a niece/cousin? Who is the cousin from last night's show related to..Michele?

Bet Jill had the night time feedings of Josie..otherwise, why would she be up and so alert at that time of the day?

MO4 said...

I wonder if the Duggars pushed for her release in order to film the Mother's Day special. I sure hope not.



I dont think so.I got the impression that the family was very nervous to have Josie home already.This is based on their reaction to the oxygen which was of surprise and unease i thought.Also the comments that Jill made last night about how her mom was not happy to have her back in the hospital but was in a sense relieved to have her there where she could be monitored and taken care of.From those commemts I got the sense that michelle was not sure that Josie should be home.

Anonymous said...

Jill is definitely going to be Josie's mother, I mean buddy. Some of the older girls might have buddies but I think it is Jill that is really taking care of most of the younger children. I noticed it was Jill that was kneeling down with Jim Bob when they brought Josie home telling the kids to not touch her, be careful, and answering questions while Michelle was standing behind everyone. Jill seems to really cuddle Josie when she is holding her while Michelle seems stiff to me when she is holding her.

Tammy C said...

I am cracking up that the Christmas decorations were still up on the stairs and a Feliz Navidad sign was on the wall.This was filmed a little after Easter.

maynardsmom said...

Does anyone know the date this happened? The fact that the cameras were there filming 911 call is interesting. Do the camera people live there?

they encourage me said...

I loved this episode. It was the real stuff of life which is what I find most interesting.

Anonymous said...

Filming live births under heavy lights happens daily....as you can see by all the birth shows on TLC and the Discovery channel..

But Josie's birth was different -- it was at 25 weeks and an emergency procedure. It should not have been filmed by TLC, or shown for public consumption and entertainment purposes.

People choosing to allow the filming of childbirth under hot bright lights for money may happen frequently -- that doesn't make it right or decent. People in poor countries sell their children every day to survive - does that make it okay? Of course not. Things may happen "all the time," but that is no excuse for treating it as acceptable behavior.

I did not watch the episode, as I haven't watched the Duggars show in months. But again, I was appalled to hear that the 911 call was filmed, apparently there was a shot of Josie thrashing around in distress that was shown.

This is all extremely inappropriate to film and play for entertainment!!!

This is a real preemie baby struggling to breath. It's ghoulish of TLC to have cameras ever present in the home, ready to film any "drama" because it's gonna be a ratings bonanza.

I thought they couldn't get lower than allowing filming of Grandpa in his sick bed, then at his funeral. But they keep finding a new low on this show. Now it was little Josie in a life and death situation. Is there absolutely nothing this family will not allow to be filmed and shown on national TV?

Anonymous said...

This causes me to wonder what exactly Michelle did with Josie while she was home. I've only seen her sitting in her car seat in the floor. Did she have her temperature checked often? Was she warm and snggly enough?
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I always wonder what Michelle does with her children when she's at home. I don't think either JimBob or Michelle want anything bad to happen to Josie, but I think they are ridiculously ignorant about the fact they will actually have to treat her differently than any of their other babies. She needs special care. JimBob honking like a damn fool, the kids with noisemakers (???), Jill up at 2:00 a.m. to help with the feeding, JimBob and Michelle keeping their scheduled plans to fly to WI.

Now, after seeing that 911 call, hearing the panic in Michelle's voice, seeing Josie struggle to breath -- it's even more devastating to me that both JimBob and Michelle flew off to WI shortly after Jose was readmitted to the hospital. What are these two thinking? Presuming they are thinking of anything else besides themselves of course.

babysteps said...

maynardsmom said...

Does anyone know the date this happened? The fact that the cameras were there filming 911 call is interesting. Do the camera people live there?

5/12/2010 6:15 AM
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Josie went back to the hospital on April 8 after being released on the 6th. The cameras weren't there. They only had the recording of the call which is open to the public to hear.

As someone said before, I can't believe Jim Bob was honking that horn so much when they brought Josie home. That guy just has no common sense sometimes. Then the little kids all jumped into the car and then they put her car seat on the floor with Jackson right there with his runny nose. All of those things were extremely dangerous for Josie. She is very unstable. But Jim Bob has never been known for his common sense.

That first half with Josh and John was just like a long commercial. We already know what they do so why do they keep filming it? It really feels like they are just wanting the free advertisement for their businesses.

I'm a big fan of the show and I'm glad they are being open and honest about Josie's problems but the last few episodes have been disasters. I am getting big time sick of insensitive Jim Bob, arrogant Josh, and annoying Amy. Michelle has her moments. I wish the show would just feature the kids.

nccalgal said...

Yes, it was mentioned that the cousin was one of Michelle's nephews. Interesting that with all the hours of filming and airing, there had never been mention of him before, but now that the question has come up regarding the lack of involvement by Michelle's family, all of a sudden the "cousin" appears. I also noticed that the boys were wearing safety goggles while they were using the weed-eater.
As far as the 911 call, I got the impression they were doing more of a re-enactment of the situation, not that they were filming it as it happened, but where was Jim Bob? If he was at the other house when all this happened, then the happy greeting when he returned was staged. Something about the "timeline" doesn't add up.

Anonymous said...

Two things about this episode: the rope swing would make me more queasy than a winding road drive! Also, has anyone noticed every time JB pulls into the drive of the rental house, he honks a lot? Like, um maybe the neighbors so close don't like all that car noise?

Suzie said...

Josie was readmitted to the hospital in the wee hours of April 8th.

The cousin is the son of one of MICHELLE's sisters, which explains why he would have 32 1st cousins. Michelle comes from a large family (although at least one sister is childless) and he probably also has cousins on his dad's side as well. But it still cracks me up that only child Amy has 19 1st cousins, all from the same uncle. I guess her dad was an only child

Anonymous said...

"Does anyone know the date this happened? The fact that the cameras were there filming 911 call is interesting. Do the camera people live there?"

They werent filming it. They had the call (recorded presumably by the 911 operator) voiced over some camera shots made to look like the scene. It was a re-creation, you could tell.

And to whomever said that Jill was doing the feeding, Michelle specifically said that she was doing the feeding. I did wonder why Jill was up and wish they would have said, but maybe Michelle just called for her. When the operator asked a question, Jill asked Michelle. It seemed like Jill was in the room, but Michelle had Josie.

Anonymous said...

"Justin said they were in Springdale for homeschooling testing. I sure wish they had filmed that and given us a hint of their grades."

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They may not have said in that episode, but I remember a year or two ago, they did show some grades, they were 90% and 87% I think. But remember, that is only by the Duggar standards.

"Where does Josh's cousin come from? I thought Jim Bob just had the one sister, and Amy as a niece."
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Yes, John David had said that it's his Mothers' sisters' son.

I really liked this episode.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:
.....JimBob honking like a damn fool, the kids with noisemakers......
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LOL.This comment made my day. I laughed until I cried especially because I thought the same thing when I saw both episodes when he drives up honking the horn. I was thinking "that can't be good for Josie." Thank you for the laugh.

Judy said...

This episode was really bizarre. I had it DVRd, and I kept wondering whether it had taped wrong since the whole first twenty minutes was all about Josh and Anna, their car lot, and their weird balloons. I hated when Anna said Josh was "babysitting" so she could get some laundry done. First off, Josh is her father -- he is not babysitting! He is doing child care! Secondly, why couldn't Josh do the laundry?

It's not clear whether JB and the kids went back to their house right after Josie came home for 48 hours? At that point they made it seem like they expected her to be able to go home pretty soon. Or was she already rehospitalized?

I can't imagine my baby being hospitalized for over five months. Michelle seems to be downplaying it -- "tummy trouble," "Can't poo," and "a tiny, little laproscopic surgery when she gets bigger." I also thought that when she was saying goodbye to the youngest kids who were eating a meal, they didn't even seem to look up at her. No "When will you be back? Why do you have to leave? etc." At those ages, my kids asked me those questions all the time.

winsomeone said...

The cousin is just 18, I think he said? If so, he must surely still live with his parents? And if that is so, why have they never mentioned in any of the shows, that Michele has family living in the same town with them? Just seems a bit odd. Odder still, that they haven't helped out since Josie's birth..like they could have taken down the Christmas decorations at the very least. But then, so could Josh and Anna one would think?

Anonymous said...

"Where does Josh's cousin come from? I thought Jim Bob just had the one sister, and Amy as a niece/cousin? Who is the cousin from last night's show related to..Michele?"
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They said on the show that he was one of Michelle's sister's sons.

Anonymous said...

I liked this episode. I'm wondering where's Jessa. She never does "interviews" anymore. Wonder why?

Also, I've yet to run into the Duggars here, but then again - I'm never in the area where they are living. My husband said he heard an advertisement on the radio saying they would be singing for a political candidate. I can't confirm it though.

~ Jasmine

Anonymous said...

re: Jackson with a runny nose so close to Josie:

Didn't Jennifer as a newborn have to go to the ER for breathing difficulties as a result of one of her toddler siblings planting a kiss on Jennifer while the toddler had a cold, giving the cold to Jennifer?

mythoughtis said...

Did anyone realize that since Josie went back to the hospital on the 8 while JB was gone to the old house, and since he was gone for a week... that basically he got back from the old house and he and Michelle hot footed it to Wisconsin? Wonder if he had time to go kiss Josie's little forehead in-between.

These two think that children are movable breathable dolls, and can be easily replaced with a different doll.. and that they can be stacked in a corner between play periods.

Anonymous said...

liked this episode. I'm wondering where's Jessa. She never does "interviews" anymore. Wonder why?
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The possibility that springs immediately to my mind is that she's had enough of a camera stuck in her face and said so. Isn't she an adult now? Maybe once they reach adulthood, and they are resistant to continuing to entertain televisions audiences with their loss of privacy, she asked not to be filmed so much anymore.

I know I'd be heartily sick of strangers knowing all about me, and I don't even get paid!

Anonymous said...

If I were the D's,I would have driven in quietly,and isolated Josie from the rest of the family,away from all the noise and family stress.No kids running up to the vehicle,no plopping the baby carrier down on the floor so all could get an up-close look at her(tlc's idea,for THE return pic of her??)..it just defies all common sense,and it wasn't far-off from how octomom plopped her newly discharged babies down on the floor in their carriers for inspection from the other kids.

I would have carried Josie straight to a quiet room,one set up in advance with all needed supplies,and there would have been no inspection of her by the other kids,no noise and no fanfare nor hoopla.JB and M just don't seem to have a clue.I wonder if the hospital staff was aghast when they saw the show.I would have been.

Anonymous said...

Lets not all jump to conclusions about the 911 call. Michele was obviously holding the baby. Jill even said "my mom is trying to do skin-to-skin to warm her up" ..I don't think Michele could hold the baby AND call 911 while trying to keep her alive.

Anonymous said...

Re: This causes me to wonder what exactly Michelle did with Josie while she was home. I've only seen her sitting in her car seat in the floor. Did she have her temperature checked often? Was she warm and snggly enough? Was she cuddled or left alone with the O2 and monitors out of fear or ignorance or both? How did she feed when she was home?

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I wonder that,too.if she could maintain her body temp in an open isolette at the hospital,a requirement for going home,then she should have been able to maintain it at home as well,with the proper care.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the home school test was a state standardized test. In my state home schooled children must take the stadardized state tests which are given on specific days. Or perhaps their home school program has some similar type of standardized test that must be taken at a specific time. If it was a state test, they may have had to report to a local school for it to be administered.

I was happy to see the boys wearing safety goggles as they weed whacked. However, when I see these children play, I don't worry as much as others on this site. When I was growing up we engaged in activities that would probably be considered dangerous by today's standards, but we survived with a few bumps and bruises. You can break an arm or leg falling off a bicycle, for heaven's sake. That doesn't mean you don't ride a bike. Bike helmets are OK, but you cannot protect a child from everything. Common sense precautions are fine, but I think it's Ok to see these children slide down a bannister, 'surf' down the stairs, swing on that rope swing, etc. They have tons of energy and don't seem to be much harmed by their play.

Anonymous said...

I was puzzled by Michelle's explanation that Josie hadn't been wanting to eat at home "because she couldn't go poo." In that case, why was Josie home if she couldn't go poo? Or was Michelle going to be doing enemas at 6-hr intervals, herself?

Anonymous said...

I have to say Anna looked very good in this episode. She used to seem like kind of a shy mousy teenager but now she seems very confident-she no longer looks at Josh all the time whenever she's asked a question during interviews, and she's been wearing nice makeup and cute blouses. I still think Josh is something of a tool, but they do appear to be good parents to Mackynzie.

Jana fan said...

Josie may have been ok to come home, but 36 hours in that House of Chaos, and back to the NICU she goes.

Honestly, with Jim Bob honking the horn, all those little kids clamboring in the car and blowing noisemakers in her ears, bumping against her carseat on the floor, kissing her (after wiping their dirty noses)...can anyone blame poor Josie for collapsing? It was only a matter of time. They should never have set her on the floor, and watching Jim Bob pick her up without supporting her little preemie head made me go bonkers.

Those two parents are so clueless about Josie's needs. They may have produced 19 children, but it does not make them good parents, just good procreators. There is a difference.

I wonder if Michelle woke Jill, or if Jill was up doing the feeding. The whole incident in the middle of the night with the 911 call is curious. I hope Michelle was feeding her own baby, but Jill is more natural with Josie. Jill was awesome on this episode.

jenny said...

I liked this episode. My only problem with it is when Anna said Josh was babysitting kenzie-- daddy's don't babysit their own kids!!

I was surprised they played the 911 tapes-- i cried when I heard how scared Michelle sounded in the background.

Whether we agree with the show and children being taped for reality, the family is a good family with good kids and the poor baby is really struggling, so are her parents. They may show it differently, but you could hear the raw fear in her voice that night.

Susan said...

The first time I heard my husband tell his friends he had to babysit his son I told him father's don't babysit they take care of their children just like mom's. He never said it again.

Anonymous said...

I watched part of the homecoming episode tonight. The nurses were very kind. But it was a bit interesting to see when JB and Michelle were leaving with Josie, as they walked past a nurse's station saying goodbye, one nurse had her back turned to them and never even turned her head to say goodbye. She and another nurse were talking and kept up their conversation like, "yeah, yeah, would you get going already?"

I also cringed at the ginormous and quite frankly, hideously ugly bow on that knitted pink cap. Why must they make Josie wear those things? Couldn't they be satisfied, for now, with placing a soft cotton cap on her wee head? They come in lovely shades of pink and maybe they could get a glitter pen and draw the shape of a bow on the cap instead. It's such overkill and just too much on that little girl's head. Plus, it's ugly.

For now, Josie has the wizened face of a Yoda or something. She is teeny tiny but I was glad to see her taking a bottle.

But after all they've been through, all the precautions they should know to follow, they make a big racket when the pull in and then let the kids sort of tumble into the car to greet their sister. Dumb asses. I mean, they're nice enough people, but dumb as rocks.

How long has Josie been back in NICU now? What in the world happened in the 36 hours she was home that sent her into such a relapse that she's still in NICU?

Will these two people clue in to the fact that this baby must be handled with care? At this point, I have serious doubts. If they haven't figured that out yet, I am pessimistic they are going to suddenly have an "aha!" moment now.

Anonymous said...

I was disgusted at the way JimBob picked up Josie without supporting her head. No baby should be held that way, but especially not a preemie! He should know better. That could have seriously injured her.

Anonymous said...

After honking the car horn enough times to wake the entire city, not protecting her from the hoards of noisemaking and noisemaker blowing children, putting her carseat on the FLOOR, encouraging Jackson to touch the oxygen machine, I don't expect much from Jim Bob, when it comes to care for this tiny, precious daughter.

But after 19 kids, you'd think he would know you always support the head of an infant. Even at five months old, she is only 5 pounds, and has no head control at all. He could do some serious damage, but I really don't think he gets it.

Anonymous said...

"...But after 19 kids, you'd think he would know you always support the head of an infant. Even at five months old, she is only 5 pounds, and has no head control at all. He could do some serious damage, but I really don't think he gets it."
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I agree with you.

I'd add that there are many things Jim Bob and his wife do not get. And never will.

A mom bird has taken up residence on my front porch. It is nothing less than inspiring observing this mother bird fly back and forth all day long, tirelessly filling the tiny open mouths of her chirping babies.

Not once has she taken time out for a road trip, leaving her struggling babies behind.

Anonymous said...

Not once has she taken time out for a road trip, leaving her struggling babies behind.



That is so cute!

Anonymous said...

"Whether we agree with the show and children being taped for reality, the family is a good family with good kids and the poor baby is really struggling, so are her parents. They may show it differently, but you could hear the raw fear in her voice that night."
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I agree with Jenny. As different as my values are from those of the Duggars (I'm a liberal, a feminist, not a Christian...), I can't help but thinking that these are good people who are trying to do the best they can. Their beliefs and lifestyle seem extreme --- which is why I'm so impressed by the non-judgemental attitude they have for those they encounter who choose to live differently. Like Amy, or her mother, Deanna, who I gather had Amy out of wedlock and married Amy's father years later.

Anonymous said...

I Spy With My Little Eye... a bumper sticker on Josh's car that says HOLT
Maybe the "Sin in the Camp" rumor never existed.

If this has already been posted I apologize