Tues, August 10, Duggars Go Hollywood

The Duggars visit the set of the new film, Courageous. Meanwhile, Michelle continues to learn how to take care of Josie on her own back in Little Rock.

30 minutes

81 comments:

Cyn said...

LOL well I was wrong on this one... it made the show.

muthoughtis said...

seems to me that if all that is wrong with Josie was lactose intolance, then there would be no need for Michelle to continue to learn how to take care of her on her own. All that would involve right now is just a special formula, since she is not taking solid foods. Plus by Josie's 2nd release date she was well past her original due date.
They are insulting our intelligence. I fully support the Duggars right to not give details about Josie's true issues, but I think they should just say None of your business, rather than imply that it is just lactose intolerance.
Furthermore, why must they continue to do things like be extras in movies, rather than just go home for several months and regroup.

Anonymous said...

It stuns me how she could so happily stay alone in Little Rock. Once Josie was out of the hospital, there is no good excuse for her not to keep at least one other baby with her. I have a feeling that even had some of the other children not had chicken pox, she still would have chosen to remain it that house like a queen, with only Josie to care for. She does not want to be a mother, but I am thinking she enjoys the attention she gets for having a premature baby, which is why she spent all those hours at the hospital neglecting the other babies.

Anonymous said...

I agree with muthoughtis. I had a baby with a delicate stomach. When I switched from breast feeding to formula, I had to try several different types before I found one that was easy for him to digest. I find it extremely unlikely that Josie's main problem is lactose intolerance. It appears she is still on oxygen - why is that?

No, the Duggars don't have to tell every little detail of Josie's health conditions, but it's disingenuous of them to pretend for the show that she didn't have (or maybe even still has) some serious medical issues due to her premature birth.

Will these two lunkheads learn their lesson? Or will the be guided by their egos and go for No. 20 ?

Anonymous said...

Where can I find a recap?

I don't have cable and rely on my fellow bloggers to keep me informed until I can watch the latest episodes.

Oh, mythoughtis, you're one of, if not THE best Duggar blogger. Your posts are something I always look forward to reading.

Jessica said...

Boys can't wear shorts in public? Some of the duggar girls wear skirts that show lower legs. That makes no sense to me. What is immodest about lower legs? I've known very conservative baptist people and boys can wear shorts. Where do the duggars base their clothing choices from? What verse?

Judy said...

Well, just finished watching the show. It cracks me up how they don't believe in wearing shorts in public yet for the movie they were willing to sacrifice...and wear them.

mythoughtis said...

thank you anon@6:34.... you recognized me even though I mispelled my own handle.

After watching the show, I find it interesting that
1. Duggars don't wear shorts in public unless they are in costume(????). Either it is ok, or it is not...
2. Knee length Shorts are not okay, but PDA is great (Anna and Josh must get paid for every kiss they have on camera).
3. Michelle and Anna cannot talk to their children or about their children in phone calls with their spouses on film without sounding as if they need committed. It's omne thing to babytalk in private... but in front of a TV camera? About filling a diaper?
4. Jana and JD seem to be quite capable and grown up... wish they could get more chances to use that capability.. rather than having to
shepherd all their siblings field trips, and be chaparoned at every turn.
5. The pop-up said Jpsie cannot breathe on her own yet and goes thru 4 oxygen tanks a day. Lactose intolerant, huh?

Suzie said...

Once the blog leaked the pictures of the boys from the movie set, I just KNEW they'd use the "costumes" for Jesus excuse as to why the boys were allowed to wear them.

Sorry Duggars, it doesn't work like that. Especially given the fact that they were filmed looking like complete idiots running in jeans for a charity race. Why couldn't the producers allow the boys to run in long sweats as JB and Josh did? Thst way, no one's principles would be compromised, or a target for scrutiny, especially after espousing a certain way of dress for the boys (that runs through the Gothard cult), before this, with the exception of the modest swimwear on the younger boys.

From what I recall from the "redneck waterslide" episode, no boy older than twins (possibly Josiah) even wore those, but slid down the ramp fully clothed, JB included.

Yet another example of the Duggars blurring rules, this time to be faces that the producers of "Courageous" can use to put more butts in the seats of a theater near -or in my case not so near - you.

Iliketheduggars said...

"seems to me that if all that is wrong with Josie was lactose intolance, then there would be no need for Michelle to continue to learn how to take care of her on her own."

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They've never said her ONLY problem is lactose intolerance. They said that was why she couldn't stay at home, and had to return to and remain at the hospital. Now that they have changed her formula and she is digesting better and not in distress, she can go home... and she will have the special needs and require the special care that most other preemies require, such as supplemental oxygen, probably an apnea monitor, special therapists, etc.

Nowhere have I seen them imply that she is all better now, just fine, just like a regular baby. She is fine and developing appropriately according to micro-preemie standards, not normal newborn standards.

CappuccinoLife said...

Well, now we know why Joy Anna was shown crying.

Just part of the movie.

Anonymous said...

Oh my goodness... as much as Josiah pontificates and judges (which I can't really blame on him, since he's young and is following adult examples), he is absolutely adorable and is turning into a VERY good looking young man.

Anonymous said...

I have many issues with the Duggars and can't wait to watch this episode so I can post about it, but reading the comments about the oxygen, I have to agree with "liketheduggars". Many (most?) preemies need supplemental oxygen until they can get the hang of breathing completely on their own. Likewise, my friend's baby (born at a bit later gestation) kept having trouble with taking breaths while he ate. Full term babies can coordinate sucking, swallowing and breathing, but preemies can't. I think the issue is that Josie's lactose intolerance is an *extra* problem, besides the fact that she is premature.

Ally said...

"She does not want to be a mother, but I am thinking she enjoys the attention she gets for having a premature baby, which is why she spent all those hours at the hospital neglecting the other babies. "
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I don't think that Michelle stayed just because she doesn't want to be a mother and just wants to be alone. I'm sure it's hard for her to be away from all her other kids and Jim Bob.

I think the reason that she stayed there alone with Josie was because she didn't want to uproot the other kids for a long time. I mean they only planned for Josie to be in the hospital until she reached the age of a normal full term labor baby.

They had never had a micro-preemie until they had Josie, so they didn't know how long she would be in the hospital and because Josie is still struggling due to being a micro-preemie in general, having lactose intolerance and a rotating stomach, she needs specialized care.

I think Michelle is making a great sacrifice to help keep Josie alive and the other children have Jim Bob, the other siblings and adults around them in person. While Michelle can only talk to them on the phone. She may not be the perfect mother, but she is trying to get her daughter Josie through a hard time.

Really? said...

Im not afraid, To take a stand.... Ok, so I'm being dramatic. Anyway, I do have a point. The Duggar kids in the "costume" shorts things is laughable. It's not like the modest dress thing is JUST a family preference. It is also something they have said they prayed about and found passages in the bible to support their decision. At that point, if that is something you truly feel, you cannot compromise. To do so makes you look kinda wishy-washy at best. And at worst it makes you seem like a hypocrite. I am going with hypocrite.
By the way, I could not care less what those innocent children wear. Neither does my God.

Anonymous said...

boys can't wear shorts in public? Some of the duggar girls wear skirts that show lower legs. That makes no sense to me. What is immodest about lower legs? I've known very conservative baptist people and boys can wear shorts. Where do the duggars base their clothing choices from? What verse?
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My guess is twofold:
1. Probably Gothard says so -- so Duggars obey Gothard's rules; plus

2. Maybe JB has hideously white spindly legs, or knock knees, or bowed legs -- so this sort of provides him an excuse to hide them, and naturally the boys must follow. A man who is so vain about his helmet hair would also probably be vain about bowed legs.

Cyn said...

Some one asked for the verse, I'm just supplying it...

Exd 28:42 And thou shalt make them linen breeches to cover their nakedness; from the loins even unto the thighs they shall reach:

JUST for clarity's sake, I personally think the Duggars are being a bit much when they use this verse, considering it was for the newly made priests, on the other hand Christians believe that we are all to be priests unto God.

Since I haven't seen the show and won't be abel to till they post them on TLC, did the shorts cover the thighs?

Anonymous said...

After watching this episode I am somewhat concerned about Michelle's health. I don't know if it is the whole Josie situation or if she is just exhausted but she seemed so loopy on this episode. Her facial expressions,her eyes, her words, everything seemed....down right weird. It was at times, hard to watch Michelle. She seemed so lost without the other children around.It's like she doesn't realize that at some point babies grow up and leave. I think Michelle will be lost without a baby to care for.

Also and I have to say this again, Anna's sister Susie(I think that's her name) is a bit intrusive and annoying. I know poor Anna or anyone else will see it in this way but her actions towards Josh,IMO could be taken as flirting. Her inactions with him seem child like but not always innocent. Even Josh seems irritated by her.

MOM IN TEXAS

winsomeone said...

I thought on the last episode, they had said Josie just needed oxygen at night? And now they said 24/7? Did I hear wrong last week, or did they change it?

winsomeone said...

Does Anna just have sisters? I noticed her sister didn't need a male companion to accompany her on the trip.

Anonymous said...

If you don't believe children should wear shorts in public then you don't make an exception for a movie. That's hypocritical. Would Josh and Anna have shared a kiss prior to marriage just for the benefit of the TV audience? I like the Duggars but they have frequently sold out because of the TV show. The more I see the less I like. I forgive some things because of editing but I understand JB has final say on the episodes, so not everything can be blamed on the editors. As for Josie, I'm sure that such tiny preemies have many medical issues before they 'catch up' with other children.

nccalgal said...

I think this whole "being extras" in a movie is totally for TV consumption. How are they going to disguise such identifiable people when the movie comes out? My guess is any segments where they are front & center is going to end up on the editing floor.

CappuccinoLife said...

IIRC, Jim Bob's answer to the question about why nobody was wearing shorts in the first race was something along the lines of "We're convicted not to bare our thighs", or something similar. I don't believe he said "Shorts are evil".

In this race, it looks like they found a way to meet the production requirements for the film without going against that conviction. I didn't see any Duggar thighs.

I think it's a positive thing that they don't make one particular style or item of clothing the definition of modesty, but are flexible about the details while maintaining a larger standard. The same thing happened with the shift from "prairie" clothes to "modest modern".

Reality TV Junkie said...

Just a couple of good old comments.

Jim Bob and Josh wore sweatpants while doing the race. The younger boys didn't. Maybe the whole "modesty" thing only applies to older people. (eg. Jordyn wearing pants, knee length skirts)

I like Joy-Anna's personality. She really seems like a fun person and such a spunk about her.


Jessa and Jinger are looking more alike. It took me a little longer than usual to figure out who was who (and I know all the Duggar's names and faces).

I don't understand how someone could critisize Michelle about her taking care of her own child. It's always best to have a lot of "Mommy and me" time, especially at an early age. She can't go back home yet (at least until she doesn't need anymore oxygen), incase of a third time stay at the hospital for Josie. She is doing the best she can, does it with a positive attitude, what more could you ask for?

Anonymous said...

I'm trying to get the Duggar rules straight here:

They don't wear shorts, unless they're in a movie.

They don't watch television, but they allow themselves to be in a reality tv show.

JimBob Duggar is laughing all the way to the bank, folks.

Donna said...

"I think Michelle is making a great sacrifice to help keep Josie alive and the other children have Jim Bob, the other siblings and adults around them in person. While Michelle can only talk to them on the phone. She may not be the perfect mother, but she is trying to get her daughter Josie through a hard time."

Several thoughts:

(1) If Michelle is making great sacrifice to keep Josie alive (not sure how she is personally able to do that since most of what she does is sit around and put huge, heavy, clunky bows or itchy hats on a tiny preemie's sensitive head while the medical team is doing the work necessary to keep Josie alive and thriving), but if she is indeed interested in "life" and "keeping things alive", she should focus on keeping her own self alive so that their kids will have a mother and her husband have a wife. What I mean by this is that she should take Josie's state of health as a sign from God that enough is enough and that there is an ending to every beginning. I doubt that she will do this, however, because in my opinion, she is addicted to being pregnant and getting the extra attention and adulation that pregnancy brings. "Making a sacrifice" would mean thinking not only about herself, but also her husband and her other kids before tending to her pregnancy fixation.

I realize that it takes two to tango and that Michelle doesn't get pregnant on her own, that Jim Bob is equally responsible for Michelle getting pregnant. However, he has said that "it's up to her." Even though Jim Bob is supposed to be this patriarch who sets the rules, it seems to me that Jim Bob is the love-sick puppy who will do whatever it takes to make Michelle happy. If she would say, "enough, let's take care of the kids we already have", I think that he would go along with that. I think that she is stronger and has more input into daily decisions than her innocent, little baby voice would have us believe. I know a lot of women like Michelle who put on this facade while in reality, they are the ones that are running the show (behind the scenes of course).

(2) Yes, the other children do have Jim Bob and the older siblings to talk to, not to mention take care of them. Michelle being a hands-on mother to her younger kids, especially, has not been happening for a number of years now. For one thing, after a certain number of kids, it is no longer possible for Michelle to be the kind of mother that she was to her older kids. NOT possible. Her older girls are without a shadow of a doubt the hands-on mothers to their younger siblings so whether or not Michelle is there, the household continues because she is the matriarch/the queen bee. The worker bees (her older girls) are the ones that do the work of being a mother and keep everything going. This would be the case whether or not Michelle was spending time with Josie or not. If Josie would have been a full-term baby, most likely she would already be pregnant by now and preparing for the next baby. Josie would have been handed off like a football to the nanny team.

(3) I think that Michelle is trying to get herself through a rough time coming to a realization that Josie's health problems are serious...with ALL that entails (Josie's future, having more children, taking care of what they currently have). She has plenty of alone time to reflect now while with Josie.

I don't envy the part that Jim Bob and Michelle have to play in order to go on with the show...19 and Counting. "And Counting" is what makes it difficult. What happens when the "counting" stops? Does the bomb go off? "And Counting" implies that there is no end...yet in everything there is a beginning and an end. It's hard when your whole persona and show is based on "and counting" even if it kills you in the process. Fame does carry a heavy price as they say.

Anonymous said...

IMO, I think Michelle is pregnant again. I noticed in this episode and the last that they didn't show too many full length shots of her. They were either from the back or close-ups. It could be she is still carrying baby weight and is just wearing loose clothing but I really have my doubts. I think they will wait as long as possible to announce it if she is. They know how critical people will be. Just my thoughts.

MamaWama said...

At the Baby Conference Michelle mentioned that she expected Josie to come off the oxygen by the next week. So, that was July 10th, so I am guessing by now she is off of it.

I loved this episode. JoyAnna fake crying was hilarious! She can turn on those tears. She won't be able to get away with anything now that her secrets out.

Joseph is really cute ( my girls said so), and Josiah is a funny boy. What was that thing he did with his lips? LOL

I think it is great that JB is willing to just load up the whole gang and take them across country like that. And I would like to point out that HE stayed behind with the little kids while the older kids went to the movie shoot.
The shorts were very long which is probably why they compromised. That does not make them hypocrites. It means that they can go with the flow and not make a huge deal out of stuff or force their morals on others. They could've insisted that they wouldn't be in the movie, but instead they didn't offend the film makers, which IMO is more important than keeping the no shorts dress code. It showed that they care more about helping out a small movie company than themselves. Others first.
I would've been uncomfortable going about my daily life with camera men there all day if I was Michelle. It's one thing when there are kids there to distract, but just cameras focused solely on her when she really doesn't have much to do, that is crazy. I felt bad for her and I felt like she was trying to think of something to say.

Jessica said...

@Cyn, yes I know that verse, that's what verse my old conservative baptist school used to choose their clothing. It clearly says THIGH, you can wear shorts knee length..and yes, their shorts went a little over their knees..

Iliketheduggars said...

"If you don't believe children should wear shorts in public then you don't make an exception for a movie. That's hypocritical."

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Maybe, and I didn't see the episode, but I can envision this scenario:

JimBob tells the kids they are going to go on the set of a real movie and be extras. He does his usual teaching spiel and everyone is excited. They get there, meet the nice people, who have to allow for the intrusion of a production crew along with a huge family, and then, horror of horrors, the movie calls for shorts.

As a parent, what do you do? Inconvenience two entire film crews and insist on our shorts rule, don't do the movie, and try to explain the importance of something you know is trivial in the grand scheme of things to 10 disappointed kids, priming them for rebellion against those rules later? (ie, pull a "Kate Gosselin")

Or do you measure the importance of strict adherence to a rule vs. the importance of your word to your family (JimBob says they try not to make promises they can't keep to the kids), and come up with some silly exception to reconcile the discrepancy for the little kids while allowing the activity?

Many patriarchal fundamentalists are strictly by the book, rule-oriented, no exceptions authoritarian parents. I like that JimBob considered the long-term, or maybe even "gave in" on the shorts thing. Even among Duggar values, boys wearing shorts or not is not that important. As parents we have to choose our battles.

Hypocritical? Yeah, probably. Good parenting? Yeah, probably.

Cyn said...

Not being able to see the show, I'm simply going to ask the question... Did they say the family rule is no shorts? Or did they say our family doesn't like wearing shorts in public? Because we have seen them in the swim wear which has shorts built into them which cover their thighs.

I also re-watched the "Run Duggar Run" episode, and he didn't say anything there about shorts not being allowed. What he did say was a misquote about the verse I posted earlier, and that the girls wear dresses to their knees and that the boys usually wear pants, he started to say to their knees as well, then changed it to 'all the way to the floor'. (JimBob put the stress on the word usually)

Anonymous said...

I also noticed she looked like she might be in the early stages of pregnancy already, or she might not have lost the baby weight this time around being so preoccupied with little baby josie and just hasn't made that a priority at all. if she is still not using b/c and is "open" to another baby, it would make sense. especially since she is no longer pumping for little josie.

Bubbles said...

The Duggars haven't ever kept a pregnancy a secret in the past before, and considering they're on the cover of People saying they're open for #20, I don't think Michelle is pregnant and they're all trying to be covert and secretive to hide it. The woman has had 19 kids in what, 23 years or so? She's almost continually been pregnant or nursing or both...it's likely she's going to "look" pregnant even when she's not. It's difficult for some women to get their figure back after just one or two babies, let alone 19.

I believe that if/when a #20 is on the way, they will announce it in grand form the way the last 5 or so pregnancies have been announced, with Today show appearances and People mag covers etc., and it will probably be announced during Michelle's 1st trimester before she'd even really be showing.

Also - I believe the pop-up said Josie is using 4 tanks of oxygen in a week, not a day.

Not a Drama Queen said...

Yes, it was four tanks in a week and they were those little portable type tanks that we saw Michelle carry upstairs. Also that was back in June when she was only a week or two tops out of the hospital. Some of that could have been precautionary to help her adjust at home.

Celestie said...

Does anyone else think this show is really getting boring? Two scenes talking about the baby's poop. Michelle seems surprised that all this baby does is sleep, eat, poop and grow. As opposed to other infants who do what? The infant does seem alert, however.

I loved that they acknowledged that at least one of kids has a way. to manipulate the parents. Go Joy, go. Apparently she has been crying for years.

JB stayed home to take care of the little ones? Along with Anna's parents, and who ever else who was at the home they were visiting. We didn't see the two "forgotten" Duggars, so who knows where they were.

Kitten said...

Michelle and JB are a "perfect storm" for multiple pregnancies. I once knew a family with (at the time) 10 children, and I remember the mom saying she only felt alive and happy when there was a new baby in the house. Even then, I thought, wow, what will she do when she can't have children any more? I think Michelle IS addicted to pregnancy and all the attention a pregnant woman receives.

I thoroughly enjoyed being pregnant each time, and it WAS fun to have people treat you differently. Plus the anticipation of the baby, and the excitement of a brand-new tiny baby to take care of. I also love ice cream, but I don't eat a gallon every day, even though I could financially afford to. Restraint and self-control is about more than avoiding sex for a specified period of time; it's about deciding what is best for you and the family you already have, both in the short and long term.

Michelle is addicted to the excitement and attention of pregnancy and birth; JB is addicted to being "famous" for any reason whatsoever. Each feeds and encourages the other's addiction. Just as an alcoholic will always find a reason to drink, they will always find a justification for doing what they want to do. The fact that it's "Biblical" doesn't disguise what it really is - a rationalization for their self-indulgence.

The show has only further enabled them to pursue their addictions on a grander scale than they ever iamgined.

Mama in WI said...

Maybe I'm just reading too much into it, but it seemed like they were REALLY emphasizing the differences between movies/"real filming" and reality TV filming. They were saying how easy and natural reality TV filming is, explicitly saying they weren't doing extra takes, etc. I wonder if they're trying to head off anyone accusing them of "working" their kids like people say the Gosselin kids are working.

maynardsmom said...

Boring and silly yes. I took a peek and saw the bit about sleep ear poop and gave up. I do believe tlc is on its way out. That other so called news station too. It's time for me to read more or watch something not so silly. Bye bye litters, multiples, Jane, Nancy, and all the rest.

mythreesons said...

If it was only Michelle and Josie at the house, how come they had all those trash cans to pull up from the road? Most households that get weekly trash service only have one of those cans. And, who was in with Josie while she and the crew were busy with the trash cans?

Jen said...

ie. shorts

The pop up said,
"The Duggar's don't believe in wearing shorts in public. For the 5K scene some of the boys dressed in costume"

I think that was the only mention of the shorts.

Judy said...

IliketheDuggars:
I don't know how you can assume that was the way it went down. The kids were wearing shorts that fit -- where in there did the movie producers happen to have a bunch of shorts that fit a bunch of kids and they quickly put on after Jim Bob decided it was okay? I'm guessing (and it is just a guess) that the Duggars knew the rule beforehand, mainly because the producers obviously worked on this deal with the Duggars beforehand and probably knew from Duggar media that the Duggars do not wear shorts. I'm pretty sure it was all arranged. It's great that the Duggars can be flexible, but it makes no sense that they are flexible on SOME issues, like bearing the boys' bodies sometimes but not others but refuse to be flexible about other things, like having children or letting their kids date.

Cyn said...

So basically TLC again got the pop up data wrong... SHOCKER...

LOL The actual shocker for me would be if TLC got a pop up data correct...

Wouldn't it be the job of the producers to make sure that the extra's either had the costumes on hand or had them wear them from home?

One poster said the shorts were down to their knees, if they were the Duggars didn't compromise the main point which is that the thighs be covered. Had the kids been in short shorts, then I would have called them on being hypocritical...

And we know the Duggars clothing views have changed over the years simply because photo's in their book have the girls in sweat pants and long t-shirts while working on their house they bought after the car lot.

Buck said...

If the gravy train ever runs out with TLC, Jim Bob and Michelle could EASILY qualify for other reality programs such as:

1) Hoarding: Buried Alive
2) Obsessed
3) Addicted
4) Confessions: Animal Hoarding

Iliketheduggars said...

"IliketheDuggars:
I don't know how you can assume that was the way it went down."

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I assumed nothing; I specifically said I hadn't seen the episode, and then threw out a scenario that would have made sense with the information I had.

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"It's great that the Duggars can be flexible, but it makes no sense that they are flexible on SOME issues, like bearing the boys' bodies sometimes but not others but refuse to be flexible about other things, like having children or letting their kids date."

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Well, that's how parenting works. It's nice to think the Duggars can plan everything out ahead of time and have their children fall right into step on every issue, but it rarely works that way for any of us. Parents have to choose their battles.

Staying flexible on little things that don't matter much (like wearing shorts on occasion) but remaining firm on the bigger issues (like kids' dating rules) makes good sense to me.

Anonymous said...

I doubt Michelle had very much pregnancy weight to lose this time since she was only in her second trimester, you gain most of your weight in the third trimester.

I do think it is hypocritical to wear shorts for the movie but not allow them any other time. The pop up said they don't wear shorts in public but would as a costume. Costume? Really, when did shorts become costumes? If I remember correctly when they discussed the shorts issue before they said they had never worn them or owned them so to say they don't wear them in public is wrong because they don't ever wear them. They weren't special shorts either that purposely went to their knee for the movie, they just looked like regular basketball shorts.

I think it is pretty telling when Michelle was talking about getting up with Josie and all the things that newborns or young infants do. She said she had to get back into the swing of things. Come on Michelle you have had 19 children in 22 or so years you should be plenty used to what it takes to care of an infant. She said how she had to get up every three hours to feed Josie, it almost seemed like a strange thing for her to do. Jordyn is not that old that she could have easily forgotten what it is like to get up and feed a baby during the night.

Jim Bob says that his family probably doesn't use up as many resources or have as much trash as the average family? Six dumpsters of trash?!?! I wonder how often the trash service is. I have one dumpster full for my family of five a week. That is less when averaged out than the Duggars, but I also don't use paper plates like they seem to blow through either. Why would Michelle have that many dumpsters if the family was away anyway.

One other thing I kept thinking was how surprised I was that Michelle was allowed to be alone with the camerman and other crew. Were there any other women there besides Michelle?

There has been no mention of chicken pox yet or the appearance of any children having had them.

Anonymous said...

With the Duggars, wearing shorts didn't seem to be a "small thing" when they go on and on about their modesty. If it truly is such as small thing and are flexible then those boys would be wearing those shorts on those very hot Arkansas days. They also would have worn them in the episode they did the charity race. According to Jim Bob and the last time they did that charity run the kids said they had never worn shorts before so it has never been an occasional thing.

I wonder if the "costume" would have been a bit more revealing if they would have compromised for the movie. What if the girls would have been required to wear a modest one piece bathing suit, and not that wholesome swimwear they wear, would they have been flexible on that so they could be in the movie.

Anonymous said...

Wait. It's immodest for the Duggars to wear shorts in the privacy of their own home, but it's acceptable to be seen on tv and in a movie wearing shorts?

Public 'immodesty' is better than private? HUH?

Anonymous said...

"She said she had to get back into the swing of things."

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I agree. This makes no sense. With a new baby every 1.5 to 2 yrs, when is Michelle Duggar ever OUT of 'the swing of things'?

The Duggars are nonsensical.

Reality TV Junkie said...

"Two scenes talking about the baby's poop."
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Actually one, they just repeated the same scene.

"And, who was in with Josie while she and the crew were busy with the trash cans?"
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She was most likely taking a nap. Remember Michelle has the baby monitor watching her heart rate? Michelle carries that around so she knows when to tend to her. Leaving a baby alone for 5 minutes won't hurt her.

Anonymous said...

I agree w/ the poster who said Anna's sister (Susie) is a bit intrusive. Pouring the water on Josh, though she did it playfully, seemed to catch everyone off guard. I also thought Anna and Josh's kiss during the filming for the movie was uncalled for. Loved the way the Kellers (sp?) interacted w/ Mac. Nice to see Anna's other sister who went on the trip. She was cute. They are all cute in their own way.

I wanted to add that while I certainly understand why people believe the Duggar parents have a lot of sex, I'm not so sure they have any more than anybody else. (Okay, maybe they have slightly more than most)... Another poster claimed the Duggars follow the OT laws of abstaining during menstruation and for several days thereafter. If that is indeed the case, then she would most likely be ovulating by the time they come together again. That coupled with the fact that they are obviously very fertile would mean they could conceive pretty quickly. I betcha they figured out the formula and have at it.

I am still loving this family and believe that what God calls some to do, He doesn't necessarily call others to do. I also believe that if He calls you, He equips you. I'm not saying, though, that God has called the Duggars to do anything in particular, as that is between them and God. I can only go by what the Duggars claim. If that is indeed the case, it would explain why their family runs so well compared to what most of ours would be like if we had 19 kids.

~Jasmine

Bubbles said...

I've noticed many posts here saying they think Jim Bob & Michelle try to get pregnant. I don't think they try to, or try not to...they just live their lives and if it happens, it happens. Attempting TO get pregnant is just as much against God's will as attempting NOT TO, if you are truly trusting Him.

It looked like Michelle had the baby monitor in her hand when she was bringing the trash can in. I assumed the trash was from before the others left, since most trash pickups are only once a week. Were there really 6 cans? I only saw 3 but I was watching the episode on a TV at Pizza Hut lol so I wasn't paying full attention.

nccalgal said...

I understood what Michelle was getting at when she said she had to get accustomed to Josie's feeding schedule especially at night. While Josie was in the hospital she was home sleeping at least 5 or 6 hours a night now it's like bringing home a newborn. My youngest was in a NICU for only 2 weeks before he came home and it was harder to get into that "mode" than if I'd brought him straight home from the hospital after he was born. It doesn't matter if it's your first or nineteenth, it's exhausting and it's not like Jordyn was still on a 3-4 hour schedule. She was probably sleeping through the night and for all we know, she may have already been relocated to the girls' room since she wasn't nursing anymore.so Michelle was used to uninterupted sleep.

Reality TV Junkie said...

"Attempting TO get pregnant is just as much against God's will as attempting NOT TO, if you are truly trusting Him."
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That is definetly true.
Reminds me of the time when Anna was TRYING (very hard in fact) to get pregnant.

Anonymous said...

I know people who left it up to God and while they did have a large family it was usually around 10. I believe in order to have 19 children one does have to be trying.

I think Michelle had brought three trash cans up before the crew helped with the other three.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I was impressed that Joy was able to cry on cue at the fake funeral. This family sure has a lot of wonderful opportunities.

Celestie said...

I was impressed that Joy was able to cry on cue at the fake funeral. This family sure has a lot of wonderful opportunities.


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I think it is weird and off putting that this production company would use the death of a child for "entertainment". Most actresses can cry on cue. That is why they are actors and why the rest of us aren't.

Anonymous said...

I could understand if Michelle had many years between her last birth and Josies but it wasn't. If I gave birth now after my youngest is 15 I would most definitely have to get into the swing of things. But Jordyn isn't even two yet and yes she should be very much into the swing of things after having 19 kids.

It probably is true though that she hasn't had to get up in the middle of the night for quite some time to take care of her children, the older girls are doing that. They probably have no trouble getting in the swing of things having a "newborn" in the house again.

Crystal said...

I could understand if Michelle had many years between her last birth and Josies but it wasn't. If I gave birth now after my youngest is 15 I would most definitely have to get into the swing of things. But Jordyn isn't even two yet and yes she should be very much into the swing of things after having 19 kids.

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I can see how she'd be out of the swing of things. My 22 month old wakes up twice at night still, but I already know I'm going to have trouble waking up with my new baby (due in 8 weeks) b/c it's been a year since I was getting up every hour or two. It takes along time to adjust to sleep deprivation, but not long at all to adjust to semi normal sleep hours.

Anonymous said...

Loved how the producers inserted the word 'costume' in when they knew they had to explain why the D's were all of a sudden breaking their own rules and wearing shorts.Do they think the audience is not ny more intelligent than that?

Nicole said...

"I know people who left it up to God and while they did have a large family it was usually around 10. I believe in order to have 19 children one does have to be trying."

Not necessarily. One needs to be exceedingly fertile. I think it's well established that Michelle is MUCH more fertile than your average woman. She reports that she consistently begins ovulating after each birth in 4-6 weeks, regardless of breastfeeding. Although that isn't unheard of, it is unusual. Most women that breastfeed get natural child spacing for the duration of the nursing period, that is certainly the case for me.

The fact that Michelle is able to conceive, carry (with the exception of Josie), and give birth to 19 children without being in a padded room with a helmet and her internal organs falling out, definitely supports Michelle's statement that she feels God has called them to do this and that they are being blessed for doing so. I would bet that most women couldn't even get pregnant that many times in a lifetime, even if they tried.

Not a Fundie said...

With the staying home with one baby, Michelle is kind of damned either way. Most people understand that Josie's immune system may not be very strong, and that Josie shouldn't come home to a bunch of young children right away. There is also the idea of noise and chaos that Josie was exposed to the first homecoming. These people said Josie shouldn't come home to noisy young children breathing all over her, and that Michelle or a nurse should focus on her needs. Now, Josie has come home to peace and quiet, and to a mother who focuses on her needs until they are sure she is strong enough to go home to Springdale. And the opinions have changed. Many people are saying Michelle is selfish for spending so much time with one baby. I'd like to point out that Michelle's younger children probably (although this is sad) don't miss her very much. They still have their normal caregivers (the four girls) plus Jimboob, who provide the same basic care and minimal structure and supervision they are used to. Either way, Michelle gets criticized. I guess that's the curse of putting your life on display.

Another thing. Sure the kids have a nice, big, house with siblings who love each other. But it irks me how the little ones seem to spend most of their free time roaming around the house in unstructured, minimally or unsupervised play. As I watched Jordyn walk around the kitchen and climb into strollers, I noticed that most parents wouldn't allow this. I wouldn't let a one year old out of my sight unless they were in a play pen or other secured area, and then only for a few minutes. It just hit me how lonely and bored Jordyn must feel.

Lastly, I was surprised that no one commented on seeing more of the other kids interviewing. Since many people wanted to hear from others besides Jill. In the last three episodes, we heard from nearly all the kids who are able to speak. My favorites are Jessa, Jinger, and Joy.

Anonymous said...

I would bet that most women couldn't even get pregnant that many times in a lifetime, even if they tried.
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Nor would anyone with half a brain in their head want to even try.

Allison said...

I sometimes wonder if the family has gotten so used to have the crew around, that when they are filming the younger children, JB, Michelle or the older kids just aren't shown to be around them because they don't have to. I wonder what it's like when you don't have a cameraman obviously chasing a one-year-old around the kitchen. I certainly would be less motivated to do it myself.

Celestie said...

From someone who been on many TV & Movie sets, let me tell you, we needn't worry about pre fitting costumes. When a lot of extras are used one of two things happen. One is they hire "dress extras", who wear their own clothes and maintain their own extensive costume wardrobes. Or two they have a truck with racks and racks of appropriate (in this case running and spectator wear.

Anonymous said...

Yes, this may be approaching dead horse status, but :
The pop up said,
"The Duggar's don't believe in wearing shorts in public. For the 5K scene some of the boys dressed in costume"

That just cracks me up. It's so convoluted, just to find some way for the Duggars to explain why they compromised their principles because they wanted to be extras more than they wanted to stick to one of their very own religiously-related clothing requirements.

I remember when they went to see that Kirk Cameron movie and they made this big hoo haw about how at the end of the movie, Kirk Cameron's wife stepped in for the kiss scene between Kirk and the actress who played his wife. This was done because Cameron didn't want to compromise his beliefs, and he felt it would be wrong to kiss any woman but his wife.

I'm not sure how they could have chosen any way to be more public in wearing shorts, than in doing so in a movie that presumably will be see by quite a wide viewing audience. I could see them choosing not to wear shorts while their own show is being filmed, yet wearing them when running errands around their home town, going on a hike or jog, or any other activity during the hot summer months. How is wearing shorts that skim the knees any different from the girls wearing a jean skirt that skims the knees? All anyone sees is the leg from the knee to ankle. Is that subject to cause defrauding? Are fundies turned on by a sightly ankle? Are fundies modern day Victorians?

Do they cover piano legs and table legs too? It's all so contrived and ridiculous as to make me laugh.

Be honest JimBob -- you couldn't stand the thought of not having yourself and your children as extras on that movie. To refuse to wear shorts could have caused some potential "well thanks for showing up, but we'll just use these extras over here already in shorts" -- and so sad, no additional face time on screen. As we see, Pa Duggar caved like a popped balloon. Mr. Demille, I'm ready for my close up!

Cyn said...

The pop up said,
"The Duggar's don't believe in wearing shorts in public. For the 5K scene some of the boys dressed in costume"
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TLC must love doing these pops up just for the controversy they will stir up on the blogs...

The shorts didn't compromise any of the Duggars principles. The shorts covered the thighs which is the principle they talked about in the "Run Duggar Run" episode.

By buying nothing but pants for the boys and leggings and skirts for the girls it makes it simpler than checking every time that the shorts are long enough for each child to reach their knees. Otherwise each summer you'd have to make sure the shorts you handed out were long enough for this child or that one; pants becoming "high waters" wouldn't be as big of an issue. Pants also wear longer and through more children than shorts do.

Mazie said...

Who could possibly be defrauded by the sight of a little boy's calf? I mean REALLY. And if shorts to the knee were ok for the movie, why did Jim Bob make his boys run the race in long jeans, which chafe and are very hot?

These people are getting sicker and more twisted. There are beginning to be more and more tabloid and People mag covers and stories, and we know what happened to another family when the "Paps" got involved. It wasn't a pretty end for them, and it surely won't be a pretty end for the child hoarding Duggars.

Jen said...

"TLC must love doing these pops up just for the controversy they will stir up on the blogs..."

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I agree.

I believe they also stir up curiosity that starts discussions on blogs.

I'm still very curious about the pop up that stated how many shirts and pants the Duggars moved back home.

Anonymous said...

The shorts did compromise their beliefs. When they did the 5K charity run they said they had never worn or owned a pair of shorts. The simple fact, according to the Duggars themselves is, they have never worn shorts and now all of sudden it is ok because it is a costume. If knee length shorts are no problem for them to wear to be extras in the movie then it shouldn't be a problem to let them wear them in the hot Arkansas summers.

I noticed that the older boys didn't wear shorts but the younger ones did. My guess is because they haven't had as many years to have it drilled into their heads what a sin it is to wear shorts and the older ones probably felt like they would be sinning even if it was a "costume".

The boys have a less chance of their thighs being exposed in those shorts than the girls do wearing their knee length skirts that can blow up in the wind.

Cyn said...

When they did the 5K charity run they said they had never worn or owned a pair of shorts. The simple fact, according to the Duggars themselves is, they have never worn shorts
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Duggars didn't say it, the stupid TLC pop ups did, same way it was in this episode... it was TLC's pop ups... which have been oh so correct before (sarcasm)

When they wear the knee length dresses you will see they also have leggings on, thus keeping their thighs covered.

Also in the "Run Duggar Run" episode they did NOT say they had never owned shorts, he said "I've never run in shorts". But then TLC does those stupid pop-ups about the shorts. JimBob Said that USUALLY they wear this and that... TLC translates that to NEVER, creating the drama.

Starting at 4.06-4.44ish http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8R1A_X5JiI

MamaWama said...

Maizie said :
"'It wasn't a pretty end for them, and it surely won't be a pretty end for the child hoarding Duggars. "

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I don't understand the child hoarding comment. Why do people want to put a label on the Duggars? Can't they just love children and want to follow the Bible? Does this have to be labeled as some kind of disease?

Anonymous said...

I actually believe it is safe to say they have never worn or owned shorts. Have you ever in any of their shows or specials seen them in shorts?

Cyn said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKXnrkvytUY
2.01 one of the smaller boys is in shorts. The rest of them are in their swimwear that is also shorts that come to or past the knee.

Anonymous said...

MamaWama said...

Why do people want to put a label on the Duggars? Can't they just love children and want to follow the Bible? Does this have to be labeled as some kind of disease?
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What about the verses about pride? Can you really tell me that JB isn't proud to excess of his family? (he hands out pictures of them to people who don't even ask for them)

Or about about extravagance which is unrestrained excess. They have an excessive amount of children.

Or greed..they are using more than their share of resources and want more and show no signs of stopping.

These are all Biblical vises. So I guess they are following the Bible.

There is also a principal of all things in moderation but that is not an actual Bible verse.

Judy said...

I assume that Jim Bob and Michelle want to be truthful in how they come across,so why would they allow TLC to change things around in the pop ups, ie, saying that they never wear shorts, (you know, except for when they are on movie sets) but they actually do wear shorts, just not in public? I would think that TLC actually works with them on the pop ups. If they don't work with them, then I can't believe JB would compromise his principles by allowing inaccuracies about his family be aired by the network. I'm still unsure how a no-televisions family thinks it's okay to start in a television show, but that's another post. :)

Cyn said...

@ Judy....

I can't tell you why the pop-ups are usually wrong, but frankly I've yet to see a pop up that was right and some aren't even close...

On the Bates build episodes they had the Bates living in another city, they had the house smaller than it was, the church they attended in a different city and so forth.

In other pop-ups they had the church hours off, the amount of months Michelle was pregnant, the amount of diapers, Duggar reading lists, the list just gets longer with every show. TLC could be adding them later, could just be adding them for the TV airings, for the drama they create on blogs, and in newspapers, or even that the Duggars like the drama because it keeps the show going; I honestly couldn't say...

All I personally know is most if not all of the pop-ups have been wrong or been slightly off of the actual facts.

Anonymous said...

Regarding the trash cans:

If you look at the episode again, there really are only 3 trash cans, not 6. The segment is purposefully edited to look like many more. I doubt that Michelle and Josie were alone the whole times those cans were being filled. Also, the trash could only be picked up every other week. I would bet, though, 1 week, 3 trash cans, most of the family there most of the time. My family of 4 usually fills up nearly an entire trash can a week.

Celestie said...

The four of us, living at home, barely fill up 2 cans in a month of trash and recycles. We fill up the yardwaste can once a a week. If they would not use paper plates, disposable diapers and other non green products, and if they would mulch their garbage, (non protein), they would not fill up 6 cans a week. All those showers, all that heat for that big ol house, all those vehicles to move them around. Often two people to a SUV going down the road. It boggles the mind. They seem to use more per person than the average person and there are so many more of them.

Anonymous said...

Celieste--just out of curiosity how big is your house for 4 people? Not everyone has recycling programs available, and it's a sure bet they don't in rural Arkansas. Maybe they do in Little Rock and maybe one of THREE, not six, cans was for recyclables. As far as their heat goes, they have wood burning furnace for which they attempt to use trees that are dead or are felled during storms. During the ice storm episode they very clearly stated that the trees they had to cut down would provide fuel for several years.

Cyn said...

And with that wood burning stove they heat the water pipes UNDER the floor which is the most efficient way of heating that large of an area.

They also built that entire house out of steel, and bought used items for the most part to furnish it with (what TLC didn't buy or get donated to them).

Are the they most "green" people, not by a long shot, BUT they also do some things right. We don't have curbside recycle pick-up and I live right outside Atlanta GA, so every other week or so my husband and 1 boy takes an entire van full of what they will accept at the local recycle place.

Close as we are to Atlanta you'd think what we can recycle would be a long list, it's not:
Office paper products
Carboard
Food cans
Aluminum Cans
CLEAR class only
and
CLEAR soda/water bottles ONLY

Our trash output even WITH recycling and no paper plates is a cargo van FULL of trash every 3-4 weeks (I can pay the 15 a month dump fee, but can't come up with 25 a month for curbside pick-up is why I know LOL)

We're wondering why Michelle was dragging (up to) 6 trash cans to the curb AFTER they moved back out? When most families move they have a bit of trash to be hauled off, at least every family I ever helped move (including myself) did.

Robin said...

In regard to the comments about Michelle having to adjust to the every 3 hour feedings at night, most newborns can be fed at will. They wake you up when they're hungry. However, when my twins came home from the hospital (who were only 5 weeks premature) I was told to feed them every 3 hours around the clock and that included waking them up at night to ensure that they gained weight.