Change Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 9:00 PM, Busy Duggars

The Duggars have a busy week ahead! First, Johannah turns six and learns to do things the big girl way, then Jim Bob takes the family hiking and fishing. Finally, the older girls and Cousin Amy let Grandma know just how much she means to them.
30 minutes

35 comments:

Nancy said...

Errrr....isn't Hannie's birthday in October? (ie. she's almost SEVEN now). I know a lot of this stuff was taped last winter. Michelle "babysitting" (ie. the "dog-sitting" scene) was actually when the >13's went on the road with Santorum; Michelle, an older daughter who rotated and Grandma were left with the little ones, INCLUDING Mack and Mike. Hint: they still had the Christmas decorations up; that's men's work and there weren't any around over the age of 12.

Does TLC think viewers are really that stupid?

Melissa said...

Yes, Hannie's birthday is October and she will be 7. I agree Nancy, weird that they're that "behind" on episodes.

Alberta Rose said...

To me the episodes are about catching glimpses of the Duggar family, not necessarily cleaving to our time sense. Jubilee's death probably caused some changes in what episodes were aired when.

londonbridges said...

I agree that TLC is "behind" in their episodes. It is weird, but also IMHO it is desperation on their part. TLC is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Willow said...

It looked like the Christmas decorations were still up when Jana was home getting the younger ones ready to go to Priscilla's wedding. I think that was in Feb. I guess they get a pass because of Jubilee though. The same thing happened when they were in Little Rock with Josie - totally understandable in those cases. Wasn't there an episode that showed the younger kids (Jackson) packing away the Christmas decorations?

Elspeth said...

February was MONTHS after Jubilee was buried. Surely John David, Joseph, and a couple of the younger boys could have taken down the decorations. All Jim Bob or Michelle had to do was tell them.

tulip said...

It's actually pretty annoying that TLC will show episodes that are so far behind, mostly bothering to me is Johanna turning 6...yes, she will be 7 in four weeks. I believe these latest episodes are still being grouped together as season six, which started while Michelle was still pregnant with Jubilee. So much for reality TV being the current reality.

Another annoying thing that really stands out to me now is it seems all the episodes are about damage control. Any criticism that's been floating around just happens to get addressed somewhere down the line in an episode. The recent ones that come to mind are the girls sitting around talking about dating & marriage-their attitudes at times were almost like they were specifically telling off all the critics, or as someone else had put it, "bratty", and when Michelle was making lunch with the kids, her obvious over emphasis on broccoli. Now more than ever, they'll have to cleanup their act when it comes to the dinner table-Honey Boo Boo made waves with the family recipe for butter & ketchup spaghetti sauce-but can we not forget, the Duggars were proud to publish their recipes for Chili Frito pie and that gross ice cream sandwich 'cake'. Add in Anna's Chickenetti (pound of Velveeta) and Jim Bob's "BBQ"...recipes adding more than a few extra ponds, and yuck.

We have seen them (more than once or twice) fixing up a run down house, making meals, Grandma doing laundry, and Anna shopping buy used and save the difference, plus most everything else they've already shown in all these "new" episodes...what happened to United Bates of America?-any more episodes on the docket?...I'd much rather tune in to see what they're up to.

professor said...

I know that we are receiving an edited version of their lives, but one thing really bothers me. The kids are shown running around on the tile floor. They should have, and maybe they do, have a large play area with a soft floor and actual toys. Where are the blocks, the lincoln logs, the legos, the puzzles, etc.? I just don't see that on the show, and I think they would show that if that was what the kids were doing. Typically, one of the kids is running, falls, and cries.

Finally,as an educator, please do not get me started on their educational level and their adversarial relationship with accredited higher education. College Plus is NOT the avenue to a college degree, nor to an educated and learned individual.


Rainbow68 said...

I realize that Arkansas isn't Mecca for great public schools, so I understand people who homeschool in that state. I know people who live in Arkansas and homeschool their own children. I don't really get the mishmash of education that the Duggar kids seem to be getting, though. Jim Bob and Michelle get almost snarky when talking about college. Contrast this to Gil and Kelly Bates, who assume all of their kids will attend college. Jill seems to be slipping into bitterness to me. I think she's understanding her lot in life should she continue to dry up and blow away on the compound. She was still quick to reprimand poor Jinger, who dared to dream beyond the Duggars' four walls.

sandi said...

I don't know about public school in the Duggar area,but recall that Chelsea CLinton went to public school in Little Rock,all the way up until her White House years,which was when she started High School,I believe,and she's done pretty well for herself,being well-educated,college and a good career.

tulip said...

Cousin Amy? TLC always seems to feel the need to throw her into the mix. Some have labeled her the fun one, however, I don't see that she's anything to write home about. She appears to be living her twenty-something life as a glorified teenager, instead of actually doing anything productive-living at home, working on her "music career", following around her boyfriend while toting her dogs with, and posting pictures of herself on Instagram waiting to respond to comments about how pretty she is. I really hope she doesn't steal the spotlight from Grandma. I can't bear to see Grandma upstaged by yet another talking head and big, cackling laugh.

Nancy said...

Busy week? That was spliced over about a 6 month period.

Glad Grandma got SOME recognition.

The sewing room has been converted to a "classroom" big enough for one kid. Earth to Michelle, you still have what, 6 kids who aren't on the computer yet. I guess they had to show HER "teaching" since she's been criticized for allowing Jessa to teach (illegally, according to Arkansas homeschool laws...teachers have to be either parents or legal guardians). Yes, I looked it up.

Stephanie said...

I think that was the smallest "fishing" pond I have ever seen. I don't know anything about fish, but did those fish seem just perfectly all the same size? And those Duggars must really be good fishermen they caught 12! FAKE FAKE FAKE FISHING POND. That's it, if it wasn't for this blog I would never watch again.
Please give us break Jimbob. You admitedly painted the trail (which I understand) and I think you stocked that pathetic pond with store bought fish and then made your hardworking mother hike through the woods and sit there. Notice Micchelle sure didn't hike any mountain, scratch her legs and ruin a pair of pantyhose. I honestly think Michelle doesn't really like her mother in law. If she liked Grandma Duggar she wouldn't set her up for such misery.

Think about it. They are really out of ideas and Jimbob and Michelle need to come up with a few story ideas that don't cost TLC a fortune.
Once again John David tags along.
Now the kids have school in a closet? When they built their dreamhouse why didn't Michelle put a classroom in the house? I had a dry erase board in my house when my kids were little and that was just for math and spelling homework.

Shoka's Understudy said...

And also in that dream house, they should have more bedrooms! It is so unfair for all the girls to sleep in the same room and the same for the boys!

Ages 23 or 24 down to 1 yr. old for the girls, and 23 or 24 to what 6 or 7 for the boys?

It is horrible to force your grown adult kids to sleep with small children.

Each child and adult child should have their OWN BED JIM BOB!

A new bed, not bought used and save the difference.

The adult children should be able to leave and live out on their own.

Michelle needs to take care of her own children instead of forcing her grown adult daughters to become teen single moms!

It still breaks my heart for John David because he expressed interest in becoming a pilot and Jim Bob and Michelle shot that down in a hurry! It will take you away from your family, blah, blah, blah!

Hey, Jim Bob. They do have pilots that fly planes in the mission field.

I really hope that Jinger does break from the compound and strikes out on her own and lives in the big city. Jill was so full of that Gothard kool-aid she was chiding Jinger about even thinking about leaving Gothardville.

GO JINGER GO!

tulip said...

Did Johanna's B-day get upstaged again, this time by fake fishing and fake homeschooling? Building a classroom in that huge house would have actually made sense, that's why they don't have one. Oh well, only about 12 more kids to go. Michelle will be almost 60 when Josie "graduates".

Willow said...

John David could leave if he wanted to; it is not unreasonable at all, even for Christians. Having his own room, or even his own apartment, on or off the compound, has nothing to do with being a good Christian -- it only has to do with control and helping spread the "word" of Gothard. My other question is: Josh and Anna had their own house at a young age. Is it their theory that having a spouse, male or female, is having another person to help keep an eye on you and keep you on the right path? In other words, you can leave home even at 18 or 20, as long as you have a spouse to watch out for you. I mean, why do the males have to stay home? (or females, for that matter, but especially the males)? That does not even fit their weird theories to me.

tulip said...

I didn't like the gun segment. First, the description of the episode talks about Johanna turning 6 when all they really did was show her attempting to do her schoolwork while Michelle talked about the "challenges" of keeping Hannie focused and doing her work...then skip to gun play with the boys? The fishing segment was ok, but really appeared staged. I did think it was sweet to show the girls pampering Grandma. It's evident Joy really looks up to Amy. I'm glad Amy didn't try and steal the spotlight-for once she actually was acting her age, and giving that part of the show all to Grandma.

Sharla said...

0.985 million viewers and a 0.3 rating.

Maria said...

I see that TLC is doing some damage control in response to the comments regarding Grandma Duggar having to do all the laundry on top of child care.

I would never expect my mom in law to be my live in housekeeper. But that is me. Michelle and Jim Bob have enough money to pay for someone to come in and handle the laundry and house keeping for them.

It still blows me away how they can leave 12 children with Jana. Even in a day care, that child care ratio is illegal.

Maria said...

As far as the bedrooms in the house go, I don't understand how they are legally getting away with this. Wouldn't social services step in? I thought you could only have so many children to one bedroom, and so many beds. ie: Bunk beds or two twin beds per bedroom. Two to three children per room. I don't know what the laws are, but it doesn't seem right that so many children are sharing one large annex to sleep in.

A teen girl needs her privacy and her own space. It is not healthy for everyone to be piled up in one room.

Willow said...

Maria - YES, you are so right. I agree with both of your comments 100%. You said it better than I ever could - but my thoughts exactly.!! I would love to know the answer about Social Services. It may be that if they are your own children, its o.k. I know for foster children, that would never work. I am sure that the children in the Bates family have more than 2 bedrooms to share. I think its so the children can keep an eye on each other (no reading of contraband, etc.) By the way, what are they allowed to read? Can they read the classics? Do home schooled children have reading requirements of certain books, like the public schools do?

mk said...

Michelle mentioned what a "precious" way that was for the girls to honor their grandmother and the girls kept talking about helping her "relax."

Yeah, sitting in the living room with tons of little kids running around, being humiliated by having your hair mussed and oatmeal on your face with cameramen filming.

Continuing to do the laundry would have been WAY more relaxing. Come to think of it, that's probably why she likes doing the laundry so much...being alone in a room where humming machines probably drown out some of the noise!

Amber said...

Do home schooled children have reading requirements of certain books, like the public schools do?

No my boyfriend was Homeschooled and I have asked him a few times if he has read books that I had to read in high school. He hadn't read any books that I had to read. He was taught through Alpha and Omega. I beileve it is similar or the same as what the Duggars use. Im sure some of the public school books are to worldly for them.

sandi said...

The bedrooms are 2000 sq ft each,so they are more like big dormatories than bedrooms.That said,it wouldn't be my choice,either,to have all of them in one room,esp.not the older ones with the little ones.
Am guessing since the boys are all on the other end of the house together,that the older ones do have to help with the younger ones,at least at night.
Interesting that Jim Bob and Michelle put their bedroom right next to the girls,instead of in the middle between the two,or near the boys.Looks to me like the boys would need more help with the smaller ones than the girls do,who already know how to care for them.jmo.

sandi said...

OK,poor grandma,please get her a real facial next time,at least something in a tube,and not dripping oatmeal.YUK! The cucumbers are good for your eyes,though.And perhaps a more quiet,relaxed space for her homespa.
I'm guessing she went on the hike because it was her property and Jim Bob said she had never seen the back of it,so it was nice they helped her out with that.

Judy said...

I do not believe for a second that on a daily basis, Michelle works one on one with each 4-7 year old.

Mandy said...

The bedrooms being 2000 square feet each is an internet rumor from someone with no spatial perception. The entire house is 7000 square. The two bedrooms do not take up over half the house interior space. I'll go look for the house plans link.

Mandy said...

http://www.kodiaksteelhomes.com/images/DuggarFloorPlan.pdf

tulip said...

The "bedrooms" are fairly large spaces, however, I still take issue with the older teens (& young adults!) rooming with toddlers and the younger kids-just does not make sense. As Jim Bob & Michelle have always said, building it from the ground up, they could make it however they wanted it. My argument is then they should have thought ahead and at least made 4 rooms-older girls, boys, younger girls, boys. Then again, I don't know if Gothard would advise kids spending too much time in their bedroom anyway, except just for sleeping. Nevertheless, Michelle always goes back to, "we asked them, and this is how they wanted it."

(I can't imagine John-David coming home after a day of towing, etc., heading up to his single bed in the corner and trying to read or something, and having Jackson and all the other kids running around, climbing up in the hideout, and jumping off bunkbeds.)

Another thing that always bothered me was the lack of beds/space for beds. Bunkbeds can only last for so long-wait til all the boys, 6 in a row, one right after another, are grown to their adult height. TLC gave the girls their "nice" beds, but as soon as Johanna, Jennifer, Jordyn, and now Josie came along, we saw them curled up and squeezed into pack-and-plays for beds! Not only that, at 3 years old, we saw them just climb right out if it. No room to stretch out, be comfortable, and a safety hazard to boot...have we seen where all the younger girls are sleeping lately (I haven't seen the girls bedroom in a while.)

Well, no matter what, Jim Bob & Michelle will always have their nice bed and "special" space.

sarah taylor said...

>>Maria said...
As far as the bedrooms in the house go, I don't understand how they are legally getting away with this. Wouldn't social services step in?

I can only speak for CA; but Social Services will not step in because it falls under "family choice" or can be deemed as "necessity". Social services is not in a place to force Jim Bob and Michelle to build a larger home. Therefore the only course of action would be to remove the children under the age of 18 and place them in foster care. They would have to determine that the living conditions in the Duggar home are such that the it is a legal detriment to the safety and well being of the minor children.

>>I thought you could only have so many children to one bedroom, and so many beds. ie: Bunk beds or two twin beds per bedroom. Two to three children per room. I don't know what the laws are,

Unfortunately for the Duggar children there are laws such as these however they are only enforced when and if the family is inviting social services into their home. The only reasons people invite social services into their home is generally during an adoptive/foster care home study or a relative foster care placement. The laws in CA are 2 children to a room within reasonable age of each other. Boys and girls cannot share a room unless they are both under the age of 4. Bunk beds are seen as acceptable. I have thought for some time that the living conditions in the Duggar home are a reason, other than Gothard beliefs, that the Duggar adoption plans disappearred. There is NO WAY the Duggar home would ever pass a social services inspection. The lack of safety gates, too many children to a room, etc. I could go on; endlessly in fact. Most states have a law regarding how many children you can have in your home. This is for foster/adoption purposes. In CA the magic number is 6. If you have 6 or more minor children in your home you would automatically be disqualified for foster care or adoption because of family size. Of course if you happenned to "deliver every one" these laws do not apply unless or until the childrens well being is at risk.


>>It is not healthy for everyone to be piled up in one room.

Nope. However, if social services was going to get involved they would have done it already.

Michigander1969 said...

http://media.glnsrv.com/pdf/products/scope_and_sequence/lifepac_ss.pdf

This is the scope and sequence for Alpha Omega publishers which Duggars use. Switched on Schoolhouse in the computer version.
If you look you'll see they are supposed to read classics like The Miracle Worker and 20,000 leagues Under the Sea and poems from authors like Keats and Tennyson.

I tried this curriculum and didn't find it challenging enough. We moved on. There are much better out there in my opinion.

Leah said...

I've always thought about how awful it must be to "room" with so many kids, but the comment about John David coming home from a long day at work and having Jackson bounce around the room really hit home. How awful that must be. I agree it's strange that these grown men are living at home. I think it's because there's a bible verse that says a man and woman leave their parents in order to get married. Therefore the Duggars take that to the umpteen level and therefore the only reason you EVER leave mom and dad's house is for marriage. Let's just ignore the fact that Jesus left his parents house to go into the world, not to get married. In fact let's just ignore most of the examples of Jesus' life and just get down to the legalism that Gothard invented.


mom in texas said...

Are the Duggars a host family for the Hortano sibilings? Maybe Gothard has some sort of foreign student program.Jim Bob said whenever Jennifer and Jonathan have a break from school they spend it with them. The Hortanos hardly seem like guest anymore.

Stephanie said...

Curious, do the Duggars wisdom booklets include classics? Huck Finn, Animal Farm, Romeo & Juliet, (any Shakespeare) Dracula, Diary of Anne Frank. I am sure there are more I can't remember. My sons school had The Hunger Games assigned as a modern popular book a couple of years ago. The D girls used to read their little Christian romance books but I have never heard mention of school novels.
I guess they keep up with current events and government because of the election and their dads history in politics.
Math and Science I know I couldn't teach my kids

sandi said...

I could be wrong,but since Gothard doesn't like college,I can't really see him supporting a foreign student exchange program.I would presume this is something the Duggars do on their own.Question mark there though.It seems like Jennifer and Jonathan help out a lot with the little ones,so maybe that is the appeal.jmo.