Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 9:30 PM, A Duggar On Her Own


Anna takes Mackynzie and Michael to the public library where she is going to be the guest reader at story time. Will Mackynzie and Michael sit still long enough to hear how the story ends? Jana is going to Michigan for her first-ever solo ministry trip.

30 minutes

41 comments:

Patrice said...

The headline looked exciting! But it doesn't really count if she is still under the thumb of Gothard, or another liked minded male who will not let her out of his mysogynistic sight. damn! I thought maybe someone was going off to college or work and into a new apartment.

Seriously? said...

Will Jana's umbilical cord stretch that far?? Tune in to see....

Sweetie Pie said...

Run Jana! Run!! You're out on your own without an overseer. Make a break for it!

tulip said...

Another episode with Anna being mom, venturing out of the teeny house-this time to the library. A group of mommies in adoration of the amazing young Duggar hanging on her every word, and as a guest reader for kiddie storytime? Oh, I hope it's not during naptime, or Kynzie might have a repeat performance of the flower girl fiasco at Priscilla's wedding-from the episode description, sounds like this might be the case.

Nancy said...

A library, if public, is an evil government institution. I'm sure it's some Christian place. If the producers got Anna into a public library, then it's a big hint that it's all for the $$$$$.

Rudy Tecat said...

Jana on her own...with a camera guy, a sound guy, a producer, and probably a bunch of other Gothard-missionary-types.

Beth Anne said...

I guess I should stop being stunned by how blatantly TLC and the Duggars are producing episodes aimed at silencing critics of their lifestyle...specifically that the older children are stuck at home, being their parents' J-slaves. I think mission work is a WONDERFUL thing, but I highly doubt Jana decided upon and organized this "solo" mission trip herself.

My guess is that this type of trip is what unmarried Gothard-adherent young ladies do at this stage in their life and was "suggested" to Jana by JimBob or other adult males, hence having them control even her "solo" life choices. At 22-23, she is well capable of making her own decisions, but I doubt she has the confidence or even feels she has the right to carve out her own path in life, beyond choosing from a very limited menu of options.

That said, I hope she experienced some joy in getting out on her own, albeit trailed by a TLC camera crew.

Sharon Kay said...

Jana is old enough to go on this trip alone, but she has been so sheltered, does she know enough about the "world" to do the trip?

Nancy said...

Jana was well-watched over. She likely stayed with David and Priscilla before she had to go to Gothard HQ to prep for the Indoctrination Camp. At the time, it sounded like she was possibly acting as a group leader because she was at HQ at least a week before the "campers" arrived.

No way cameras are allowed to film what goes on, either at HQ, where each camper has a one-on-one with Gothard, and REALLY no way would Gothard allow cameras at the campsite, which is in the UP of Michigan. It's basically a guilt trip/tear down the campers ("someone is withholding sins and it's keeping the group from moving forward" type psychology). Thursdays are set aside for compulsory fasting (unless you can prove you're diabetic or have another condition that requires you to eat regular meals).

Gothard wouldn't allow himself to be filmed, no way he will permit the inner workings of his cult to be shown.

sandi said...

Yes,I was reading about the activities there,and noticed the fasting.IMO it's to help keep costs down,which skipping a whole day of meals would do,and line Gothard's pockets more.JMO.

Nancy said...

What a whitewash of the indoctrination camp; they made it look like a happy, smiley, mainstream Christian summer camp. But they confirmed that Jana IS working for Gothard now.

Very surprised that Gothard gave access to the UP location, but no mention of him, of course.

Stephanie said...

I must admit I like it when they get Jimbob in an uncomfortable goofy moment like in front of the bathrooms. The problem, he will try to create those type of moments and then they will be phony and lose the little bit of charm it once had. Michelle didn't have to take Jordyn to the bathroom, again.
Kids in the house on pogo stick and unicycle. Why doesn't Michelle have them do things like that outside.
Still defending Duggar Time. And the boys and their ugly hats.
Why did they put the girls on the hardest bike?
Wouldn't the middle school aged boys be pretty good at biking?
John David and Joseph somehow got out of the bike trip but went hiking and fake fishing. I wonder what makes Jimbob decide if those two men should or shouldn't participate in the activity?
Would we like the show better if it where Michelle & Jimbob and their minor children? The bike ride would have been Josiah on down and not torturing grandma. Maybe Jinger wasn't 18 when this was filmed, so Jinger on down.

Melissa said...

Did anyone notice Joshie's response when TLC asked Anna & Josh if they wanted more kids? Josh didn't seem to thrilled. I wonder if he wishes he could go back and change a few things, but he's afraid to disappoint his parents? Maybe he doesn't want more than 2 or 3 children. There was one other time I remember him saying, "2 or 3 would be fine." I've also noticed that Josh has kept his mouth shut during the interviews. I think he does read these comments on this blog. He seems depressed, though..I'm actually worried about him! Anna & Jill have to constantly chatter on the interviews...they annoy me. Although, I do want Anna to be treated well and cherished- she deserves it! WAY TO GO Joy Anna! I noticed how happy she was when Amy came over. I'm glad Joy does have Amy as an example of a Christian from the "outside" world. That was so sweet what they did for Grandma- and sweet how the little girls were involved. Josie is so sweet.

Nancy said...

FTM, the entire "goodbye Jana" was a set-up. In actuality, the family was in WI stumping for Santorum (this was late March or thereabouts) and they dropped her off at Gothard HQ in Chicago on the way back south.

Also saw the Santorum skin on the bus in the background when they were packing the bikes in the driveway.

londonbridges said...

Perhaps being a mommy-sister to several little blessings is waning, and Jana is looking at working for Gothard as a way out of Duggarville, at least for some of the time. It seems that JimBob hasn't chosen her mate, and her options are very limited. I would think JimBob and Michelle would be impressed with one of their blessings working for Mr. Gothard. JMHO.

Willow said...

My most intense thought is WHY couldn't Grandma Duggar go to a REAL spa? It was nice that they were trying to do something for her, but it was lame at best and I think she deserved the real thing. All of Grandma's children and older grandchildren should have been able to afford the real thing. (Didn't see Michelle helping out, either). JMO of course.

Leah said...

good heavens what an awkward episode.

I used to live within walking distance from the library that Anna visited. Typically the "granola/hippie" types frequent that library. And the UofA students. I doubt Anna will ever return. She seemed completely out of her element.

I agree that Josh seems depressed. I've been thinking that for a while now. He used to be pretty jovial, talkative, and enthusiastic. Now he can barely muster a shrug when asked if he and Anna are trying for more children. I have a theory that Duggar men are extremely ill-prepared for the lifestyle that they are expected to live out. They are never expected to help cook, teach, discipline, bathe, diaper, babysit, or do anything with the little kids. Do the older Duggar boys get up in the night to soothe a crying child? Heck no. Then they hit parenthood and suddenly they are expected to provide for tons of kids and a wife, AND be a parent. Josh was totally unprepared for reality. I predict that zero of the Duggar sons will end up having more than a handful of children.

Sharla said...

0.952 million viewers and a 0.4 rating.

tulip said...

Again, another episode of parts that don't fit-'A Duggar On Her Own', with a family bike trip thrown in? And, again, more stuff that looks staged. Michelle said they really weren't expecting all those special bikes. First, how much "repair" do the Duggar bikes need that they would have to take them to the shop and not just be able to tune them up themselves? What happened to being thrifty, doing things for yourself (like bike maintenance/repairs?) Second, the looks on everyone's faces did not look like that of a real surprise, but rather that of a TLC surprise (preplanned, briefed.)

The 3 older girls were all wearing matching aviators with gold frames.

Wow, Josh definitely did not look interested when asked about having more kids, in fact, he didn't even say anything. Anna on the other hand burst out with an emphatic and matter-of-fact "yes" when asked if they were trying. Josh just looked, kind of shook his head, but really looked like he was not on board with Anna's enthusiasm.

Anna said reading to the kids, and just the whole situation in general, made her nervous and that she felt out of her comfort zone...didn't she boast on several occasions that she's college-educated in teaching children, or something to do with child development? (we all know what her "education" would be, of course) but why be so nervous about reading a kids storybook in front of a little mommy & me group in the library? Geesh.

No surprise there wasn't a blurb on the screen explaining 'Journey to the Heart', no mention of IBLP, and certainly not Gothard...y'all can explore that one on your own.

Maria said...

I think Josh is starting to see how life is going to go now. He will be expected to run the car lot. He is expected to produce more children that he will have to support. He is under educated, and cannot handle business dealings without his father. He is still very young, and has never had time to explore his own life or what he wants to do the way most young men do at his age. Reality is probably setting in for him. He probably does not want a bunch of children but feels the pressure to follow the party line.

Josh wanted to be a lawyer, John David wanted to be a pilot, Jinger wants to go the city, Jill and Jana want to be midwives. They can't do this without a formal education of some kind. They can't be free, because being free is not acceptable to Jim Bob and Michelle. They cannot see how they are crippling their own children. Michelle got to live her young years as she pleased. She got to go to movies, games, travel, worked where she wanted to, wore what she wanted, and was a cheer leader. Why can't she offer that same freedom to her own daughters?

Duggar Fan but Losing Interest said...

It's not like Jana is exactly "on her own" at what I'm sure is a heavily-chaperoned event for Christian hyper-fundy singles.

Why would a stay-at-home mom of 2 small children feel "out of her comfort zone" reading a book to a small group of similarly aged kids at the library? She had that innocent naivete/ignorance about the process of getting a library card. Maybe her parents never let her and her siblings go to the public library. And a bookshelf of kiddie books in the living room is not the same as having "a library in our home"

Stephanie said...

I just rewatched Jana talking about Journey. Did she say that the younger girls at the camp learn to cook and do housework? Is that on the agenda?

Melissa said...

I also agree that the Duggar men are not well prepared for adulthood. I can make an assumption as to why Josh got married so young...Jim Bob's business endeavors worked and provided for a large family, but this will not be the way to go for all the men in the family. Some of the boys may have to get "normal" jobs in factories and such if they do not get a college education. Not everyone is able to be successful as an entreprenaur the way Jim Bob has been. He just got fortunate on a few big deals like the cell phone tower. I can see to some extent the reasoning for why Jim Bob and Michelle have tried to "shelter" their children in young adulthood. I can even understand why they wouldn't want their girls to be cheerleaders (even though Michelle was). What I can't understand is why they don't seem to support or encourage their children to go to an accredited Christian University. Even Bob Jones, Pensacola, or O.R. would be better than not getting a degree.

DuggarGoth said...

Anna said reading to the kids, and just the whole situation in general, made her nervous and that she felt out of her comfort zone...didn't she boast on several occasions that she's college-educated in teaching children, or something to do with child development? (we all know what her "education" would be, of course) but why be so nervous about reading a kids storybook in front of a little mommy & me group in the library? Geesh.
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I kind of thought the same thing. I know that she has gone at least 1 speaking engagement with Josh. She didn't seem to have any trouble talking about how to keep yourself pure for your husband but yet she got nervous reading a book to some kids?

mom in texas said...

Anna was wearing a Coach bag on her arm when she went to the library. I wonder did she "buy used and save the difference" on it or have Josh and Anna all but abandoned that concept? Also I wonder why Josh and Anna seemed apprehensive over the question of having more children? Anna kept looking to Josh, as she always does, as if she was looking for the correct answer. I figured their answer was always "yes". Or maybe Josh was so quiet because he looked at is as a "duh" moment, "Of course, we are always trying".

Beth Anne said...

Re:
"I think Josh is starting to see how life is going to go now."

I kind of felt like, the first 2 years or so after they got married, Josh and Anna were riding high on the wings of self-righteousness. That is, they were so proud of doing things the "right" way, per Gothard/JimBob/Keller standards that they were high on the feeling of being holy. They did the whole courtship thing, did NOT kiss until their wedding, had kids right away, etc. They also had tons of like-minded people and "fans" telling them how great they were and how they were some sort of role model for young parents.

However, I think it was a temporary "high." Many have pointed out that reality set in, and the day-to-day grind of having a business, taking care of one's own home, taking care of young children, etc. is hard work. And, though the Duggars successfully sell the notion that their kids are the hardest working people on the planet because they have jurisdictions, I think the boys, in general, are likely to flounder a bit once they are on their own.

PCC Grad said...

Pensacola is only recently accredited, but it was a great place to get a Christian education. There are many other colleges & universities like PCC where the Duggar adult-kids could pursue their dreams in a safe, secure Bible-based environment. When I was there, nursing & education were the most popular majors for women.

Sharla said...

As has been discussed here previously, Josh bought the Coach bag at an outlet in Florida earlier this year.

tulip said...

I'm guessing Anna's Coach purse is her prize possession. Josh had to post a pic of him buying it for her back when they were on the road with Santorum. Sorry, Josh...for those of us who know Coach, he should have done much better than the hot pink, fabric bag he picked out. Then again, maybe Anna picked it out and Josh was the hero hubby for buying her something so 'special'.

sarah taylor said...

A coach bag and a humV?? Hmmmmmm

Why not lose the coach bags and the hummer and buy a decent sized house. That place would be fine for a retired very elderly couple, but is way small for a growing family. Oh, and take the Dad <3 Mom off of your bedroom door! Strange, immature, creepy, and downright not needed!

I think Josh is just starting to notice that children are not very easy. Lets face it, the bulk of the child rearing work falls on the shoulders of the older Duggar girls. Josh and Anna have no older girls and therefore have to raise their own kids. Most likely that never occurred to him before.

During the library visit I was just wondering if that book was on the Gothard approved list!!

The episode as a whole was disjointed and strange. I agree with DuggarGoth regarding the fact that it was strange that Anna has no problem discussing sex ad nauseum to millions, appear spread eagle on her toilet giving birth, but reading to kids is out of her comfort zone??

mom in texas said...

Whether we agree with the purpose of the Journey to the Heart trip or not one thing I can say is that Jana seemed like a completely different person.She had a light about her that I have never witnessed.Jana had such a Jill/Jessa vibe about her.Maybe the Journey is something she is passionate about. It was good to see her so happy and vocal. I guess going to the Journey camp would be like a vacation in comparison to Jana's normal daily life. Also Josie's sadness over Jana leaving was very telling.

Stephanie said...

I don't think Josie understood that whole scene of Jana and her parents saying goodbye. It was a terrible, staged-for-the camera scene. It rivals the Kardashians acting job on their show. Especially since someone said they said goodbye when they were on the road with Santorum.

Duggar reality is, they DID campaingn for weeks on the road. That is what they should show. They don't even show what they do day in and day out. Fake fishing, group bike rides, and torturing Grandma. The premise of the show was 19 kids and counting, so now that they aren't counting, they are desperate for activities to show. Just like the Gosselins.

Ireland trip was an effort to do something in case no more babies were happening. Then pregnancy, then baby died, and now they don't know what to do to keep the show rolling.

When Michelle announced Josies pregnancy at the poor mans water slide, the producer said it all when he said:
"Jimbob, you really know how to keep a series going"

Skater said...

Many times, Jana said things like "They were a great bunch of girls", or "You girls are awesome". A few weeks ago, when Anna was interviewed she stated that "Many girls my age are finishing college or starting careers". My husband and I refer to our 22 year old daughter (who is a college graduate, lucky enough to get a job and an apartment) as a young Woman. Her friends all refer to themselves as women too. Why do the Duggers always refer to themselves as "girls"? Lack of experience? Knowledge? or a little "brainwashing". It really bothers me.

Patrice said...

I believe they call themselves "girls" because of the states of arrested development in which they live. On the Maxwell blog, Sarah, (age 31) always writes things like "We children set up the book table while mom and dad spoke..." When the Bateses and another family were on a train, Gil said "We have 4 adults and 32 children..." or whatever it was, even though many of the offspring were anywhere between 20 and 28. The Duggars and other Gothardite families don't allow their offspring to grow up and leave the house at the age when most do, so they are always "children" until the day they marry and suddenly transform into adults. SO was Anna pointing out that her unmarried peers were still "girls" while she is now a woman? OR just so used to being childlike for so long that she forgot her real age? When I compare her to other young women her age, including my own, I really do see her as being very childlike still.

erin said...

Why do the Duggers always refer to themselves as "girls"? Lack of experience? Knowledge? or a little "brainwashing". It really bothers me.

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That's what Mama & Daddy call them.
Slightly less irritating for me, when Jim Bob says "you guys" when talking to his entire brood of sons & daughters.

Someone needs to do a middle-of-the-night intervention. Get Grandma and the adult-kids off the Duggar compound. Leave Michelle & Jim Bob alone to get to know their neglected younger "blessings".

sandi said...

I did notice that Jana,at the camp,put it as 'girls and guys',instead and 'girls and boys'.Seems the males get a bit more respect?

Molly said...

One thing I am noticing when the ADULT Duggar girl's speak is it seems just like 12 and 13 year olds speaking instead of 18-22 year olds. There is something very wrong with that. Her trip to Michigan per usual Jana got no time alone not even a room to herself. I wonder why Amy, Grandmother and other's surrounding them never help them or offer them any options? It is pathetic watching young women with no natural interest even in falling in love, or identities outside those determined by their parents.

ALW said...

At first I was surprised that Anna had never taken her kids to the library since it seems like a highly accesible outlet for toddler energy. But of course she's never been! I'm sure even the bedtime books at their house have a Christian message. A place like a library is probably more of a gateway to the world and away from the bible. Libraries, as government run facilities, are meant to be completely secular and that, as a basic principal (so to speak), is to be avoided. And now I'm even more convinced its all an act to make the Duggar lifestyle seem more mainstream. I would bet none of the youngest Duggars have been to a library either. Remember when Jill told that group of elementary school kids her favorite book was some obscure patriarchal YA Christian novel? Woah.

Sweetie Pie said...

The library scene shocked me, as a homeschool family we practically live at our library. I would have thought the Duggars would have utilized it as free books & educational material.

Rudy Tecat said...

Again, this season seems to be dedicated to getting a husband for Jana, with all the face-time she's getting, and all her sisters talking up her best qualities...even the fishing scenes in one episode featured Jana (and her laughing at herself because after catching the hook in her hair). Jill has always seemed more eloquent, but Jana is taking center stage this season.

londonbridges said...

If Jana truly meets a young man, falls in love with him and decides to spend the future with him, so be it. However, we are told that Daddy chooses the mate, and the young woman is expected to submit to him. If Jana is being promoted as Gothardite wife material, I just hope it isn't the intention of JimBob, Michelle and/or TLC to provide drama in order to keep the show going. JMHO.